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Bhavesh Patel

Sat, Sep 5, 2026 9:25 AM

Reminded me of OST somehow...

"All week, I’ve found myself remembering what you said to David Cayley
about “the realm of gratuity, or gift,” and how hard it can be for the
modern mind to grasp.1
https://dougald.substack.com/p/a-gift-received#footnote-1 When something
happens, we expect it to be “the outcome either of chance or of some chain
of causal necessity.” But between these two, there is “a realm that comes
into being in response to a call, rather than a determinative cause.” When
something begins with an invitation, rather than an order. (In the sense of
an officer bellowing at a recruit or a boss sending an email to an
underling or a customer clicking “BUY NOW” on a website.)

Today, if we say something is “gratuitous” that means it is “beside the
point”, but once upon a time the world itself was understood to be
gratuitous: the result of something like an invitation, rather than random
chance or an unbendable law of cause-and-effect."
https://dougald.substack.com/p/a-gift-received

Reminded me of OST somehow... *"All week, I’ve found myself remembering what you said to David Cayley about “the realm of gratuity, or gift,” and how hard it can be for the modern mind to grasp.1 <https://dougald.substack.com/p/a-gift-received#footnote-1> When something happens, we expect it to be “the outcome either of chance or of some chain of causal necessity.” But between these two, there is “a realm that comes into being in response to a call, rather than a determinative cause.” When something begins with an invitation, rather than an order. (In the sense of an officer bellowing at a recruit or a boss sending an email to an underling or a customer clicking “BUY NOW” on a website.)* *Today, if we say something is “gratuitous” that means it is “beside the point”, but once upon a time the world itself was understood to be gratuitous: the result of something like an invitation, rather than random chance or an unbendable law of cause-and-effect."* https://dougald.substack.com/p/a-gift-received

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Funda Oral

Sun, Sep 6, 2026 6:37 AM

Does it mean that OST is not so much about 'Self Organization"? There is a
concious invitation from a leader, someone and there is an underlined
"Theme"....

Greetings,
Funda Oral Toussaint

5 Eyl 2026 Cmt 11:27 tarihinde Bhavesh Patel via OSList everyone@oslist.org
şunu yazdı:

Reminded me of OST somehow...

"All week, I’ve found myself remembering what you said to David Cayley
about “the realm of gratuity, or gift,” and how hard it can be for the
modern mind to grasp.1
https://dougald.substack.com/p/a-gift-received#footnote-1 When something
happens, we expect it to be “the outcome either of chance or of some chain
of causal necessity.” But between these two, there is “a realm that comes
into being in response to a call, rather than a determinative cause.” When
something begins with an invitation, rather than an order. (In the sense of
an officer bellowing at a recruit or a boss sending an email to an
underling or a customer clicking “BUY NOW” on a website.)

Today, if we say something is “gratuitous” that means it is “beside the
point”, but once upon a time the world itself was understood to be
gratuitous: the result of something like an invitation, rather than random
chance or an unbendable law of cause-and-effect."
https://dougald.substack.com/p/a-gift-received
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Does it mean that OST is not so much about 'Self Organization"? There is a concious invitation from a leader, someone and there is an underlined "Theme".... Greetings, Funda Oral Toussaint 5 Eyl 2026 Cmt 11:27 tarihinde Bhavesh Patel via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> şunu yazdı: > Reminded me of OST somehow... > > *"All week, I’ve found myself remembering what you said to David Cayley > about “the realm of gratuity, or gift,” and how hard it can be for the > modern mind to grasp.1 > <https://dougald.substack.com/p/a-gift-received#footnote-1> When something > happens, we expect it to be “the outcome either of chance or of some chain > of causal necessity.” But between these two, there is “a realm that comes > into being in response to a call, rather than a determinative cause.” When > something begins with an invitation, rather than an order. (In the sense of > an officer bellowing at a recruit or a boss sending an email to an > underling or a customer clicking “BUY NOW” on a website.)* > > *Today, if we say something is “gratuitous” that means it is “beside the > point”, but once upon a time the world itself was understood to be > gratuitous: the result of something like an invitation, rather than random > chance or an unbendable law of cause-and-effect."* > https://dougald.substack.com/p/a-gift-received > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org

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Michael M Pannwitz

Sun, Sep 6, 2026 9:06 AM

Dear ost Afficionados and other Critters,

*"Does it mean that OST is not so much about 'Self Organization"?"

*as Funda Oral Toussaint asked, tickled my old brain.

A quick search dug up an old text of Harrison Owen (Opening Space for
Ermeging Order?)

https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/hho/open-space-technology/

and

https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/hho/papers/

(Opening Space fro Emerging Order: A brief history of Open Space. First
published in the OD Practitioner it is suggested that the remarkable
things that happen in Open Space have nothing to do with the magic of
Open Space, but rather the prior reality of self-organizing systems.)

here are two short parts of the text:

/Now back to Open Space. If it turns out that the global experience of
thousands of people in an open space environment is something other than
a massive aberration, it would seem that self-organization in the realm
of human systems was an every day occurrence. It is in this light that I
choose to view the significance of Open Space Technology. It is not
about having better meetings, although that certainly takes place. *It
is about experiencing the mystery and power of self-organization to the
end that we might learn to be at home in this rather strange, possibly
new, universe *(to borrow the title of Kaufmann’s book).

/*and

*/The lesson from Open Space is a simple one. The only way to bring an
Open Space gathering to its knees is to attempt to control it. It may,
therefore, turn out that the one thing we always wanted (control) is not
only unavailable, but unnecessary. After all, if order is for free we
could afford being out of control and love it. Emergent order appears
in Open Space when the conditions for self organization are met.
Perhaps we can now relax, and stop working so hard.

/Love and Peace from a sunny morning in Berlin
mmp

Am 06.09.2026 um 08:37 schrieb Funda Oral via OSList:

Does it mean that OST is not so much about 'Self Organization"? There
is a concious invitation from a leader, someone and there is an
underlined "Theme"....

Greetings,
Funda Oral Toussaint

Michael M Pannwitz
Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
+49 30 7728000mmpannwitz@posteo.de

Worldwide Open Space on Open Space 2026
https://wosonos26.com/
in Eindhoven, NL
17. - 19. Sept. 2026

Dear ost Afficionados and other Critters, *"Does it mean that OST is not so much about 'Self Organization"?" *as Funda Oral Toussaint asked, tickled my old brain. A quick search dug up an old text of Harrison Owen (Opening Space for Ermeging Order?) > https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/hho/open-space-technology/ *and* > https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/hho/papers/ (Opening Space fro Emerging Order: A brief history of Open Space. First published in the OD Practitioner it is suggested that the remarkable things that happen in Open Space have nothing to do with the magic of Open Space, but rather the prior reality of self-organizing systems.) here are two short parts of the text: /Now back to Open Space. If it turns out that the global experience of thousands of people in an open space environment is something other than a massive aberration, it would seem that self-organization in the realm of human systems was an every day occurrence. It is in this light that I choose to view the significance of Open Space Technology. It is not about having better meetings, although that certainly takes place. *It is about experiencing the mystery and power of self-organization to the end that we might learn to be at home in this rather strange, possibly new, universe *(to borrow the title of Kaufmann’s book). /*and */The lesson from Open Space is a simple one. The only way to bring an Open Space gathering to its knees is to attempt to control it. It may, therefore, turn out that the one thing we always wanted (control) is not only unavailable, but unnecessary. After all, if order is for free we could afford being out of control and love it. *Emergent order appears in Open Space when the conditions for self organization are met.* Perhaps we can now relax, and stop working so hard. /Love and Peace from a sunny morning in Berlin mmp Am 06.09.2026 um 08:37 schrieb Funda Oral via OSList: > Does it mean that OST is not so much about 'Self Organization"? There > is a concious invitation from a leader, someone and there is an > underlined "Theme".... > > Greetings, > Funda Oral Toussaint > Michael M Pannwitz Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany +49 30 7728000mmpannwitz@posteo.de Worldwide Open Space on Open Space 2026 https://wosonos26.com/ in Eindhoven, NL 17. - 19. Sept. 2026

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Funda Oral

Mon, Sep 7, 2026 9:19 AM

thanks Michael,

"Emergent order appears in Open Space when the conditions for self
organization are met."

*In my experience with OST, *"the conditions required for self
organization" for emergent order change from culture
*to culture (history, how the society functions, all these play a role) *.

People need* to be safe and respected* to feel free. Enough time should
be given too (for an OST event).

I agree Control can not be considered as a Condition. I doubt that there
are unique conditions that can be applied all over the world.

That's what Harrison was right saying: "a good person can work with OST, it
does not belong to me, it can not be certified"

Every individual in this list can experience freedom and emergent order
with a little Consciousness and Awareness. However
that is sufficient to create harmony and love we need to experience in
society.

Thanks Harrison for this Wisdom🙏

Regards
Funda

thanks Michael, *"Emergent order appears in Open Space when the conditions for self organization are met."* *In my experience with OST, **"the conditions required for self organization"* for emergent order change *from culture* *to culture (history, how the society functions, all these play a role) *. * People need* to be safe and respected* to feel free. Enough time should be given too (for an OST event). I agree Control can not be considered as a Condition. I doubt that there are unique conditions that can be applied all over the world. That's what Harrison was right saying: "a good person can work with OST, it does not belong to me, it can not be certified" Every individual in this list can experience freedom and emergent order with a little Consciousness and Awareness. However that is sufficient to create harmony and love we need to experience in society. Thanks Harrison for this Wisdom🙏 Regards Funda

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Funda Oral

Mon, Sep 7, 2026 9:21 AM

oopps : Every individual in this list can experience freedom and emergent
order with a little Consciousness and Awareness. However
that is *NOT *sufficient to create harmony and love we need to experience
in society.

Sorry for the mistake.

Funda

Funda Oral fundaoral@gmail.com, 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt, 11:19 tarihinde şunu
yazdı:

thanks Michael,

"Emergent order appears in Open Space when the conditions for self
organization are met."

*In my experience with OST, *"the conditions required for self
organization" for emergent order change from culture
*to culture (history, how the society functions, all these play a role) *
.

People need* to be safe and respected* to feel free. Enough time should
be given too (for an OST event).

I agree Control can not be considered as a Condition. I doubt that there
are unique conditions that can be applied all over the world.

That's what Harrison was right saying: "a good person can work with OST,
it does not belong to me, it can not be certified"

Every individual in this list can experience freedom and emergent order
with a little Consciousness and Awareness. However
that is sufficient to create harmony and love we need to experience in
society.

Thanks Harrison for this Wisdom🙏

Regards
Funda

oopps : Every individual in this list can experience freedom and emergent order with a little Consciousness and Awareness. However that is *NOT *sufficient to create harmony and love we need to experience in society. Sorry for the mistake. Funda Funda Oral <fundaoral@gmail.com>, 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt, 11:19 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > thanks Michael, > > *"Emergent order appears in Open Space when the conditions for self > organization are met."* > > *In my experience with OST, **"the conditions required for self > organization"* for emergent order change *from culture* > *to culture (history, how the society functions, all these play a role) * > . > > * People need* to be safe and respected* to feel free. Enough time should > be given too (for an OST event). > > I agree Control can not be considered as a Condition. I doubt that there > are unique conditions that can be applied all over the world. > > That's what Harrison was right saying: "a good person can work with OST, > it does not belong to me, it can not be certified" > > Every individual in this list can experience freedom and emergent order > with a little Consciousness and Awareness. However > that is sufficient to create harmony and love we need to experience in > society. > > Thanks Harrison for this Wisdom🙏 > > Regards > Funda > > > > > > > > >

CC

Chris Corrigan

Mon, Sep 7, 2026 3:24 PM

We dont need Ooen Space to experience emergence. It is happening all around
us at every time.

We use Ioen Space when that emergence is producing order that we want to
address directly, usually in the form of a problem or something that we
need to change.

The. We introduce a theme and a process and some time constraints and a
group of people into the emergent space of life and see if we can address
the issue.

What happens in Open Space is sel-organization within chosen constraints.
It is deliberately introducing some order to influence what is happening in
the wider context.

Harrison is right that we don't have to work so hard. But we do have to
work.

Chris.

CHRIS CORRIGAN
Blog and resources: http://www.chriscorrigan.com
Harvest Moon Consultants: https://www.harvestmoonconsultants.com

Upcoming events and workshops and online courses:
https://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/events/

Located on Nex̱wlélex̱wm (Bowen Island), Sḵwx̱wú7mesh-ulh territory,

On Mon, Sep 7, 2026 at 2:22 AM Funda Oral via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:

oopps : Every individual in this list can experience freedom and emergent
order with a little Consciousness and Awareness. However
that is *NOT *sufficient to create harmony and love we need to experience
in society.

Sorry for the mistake.

Funda

Funda Oral fundaoral@gmail.com, 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt, 11:19 tarihinde şunu
yazdı:

thanks Michael,

"Emergent order appears in Open Space when the conditions for self
organization are met."

*In my experience with OST, *"the conditions required for self
organization" for emergent order change from culture
*to culture (history, how the society functions, all these play a role) *
.

People need* to be safe and respected* to feel free. Enough time
should be given too (for an OST event).

I agree Control can not be considered as a Condition. I doubt that there
are unique conditions that can be applied all over the world.

That's what Harrison was right saying: "a good person can work with OST,
it does not belong to me, it can not be certified"

Every individual in this list can experience freedom and emergent order
with a little Consciousness and Awareness. However
that is sufficient to create harmony and love we need to experience in
society.

Thanks Harrison for this Wisdom🙏

Regards
Funda

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We dont need Ooen Space to experience emergence. It is happening all around us at every time. We use Ioen Space when that emergence is producing order that we want to address directly, usually in the form of a problem or something that we need to change. The. We introduce a theme and a process and some time constraints and a group of people into the emergent space of life and see if we can address the issue. What happens in Open Space is sel-organization within chosen constraints. It is deliberately introducing some order to influence what is happening in the wider context. Harrison is right that we don't have to work so hard. But we do have to work. Chris. ____ CHRIS CORRIGAN Blog and resources: http://www.chriscorrigan.com Harvest Moon Consultants: https://www.harvestmoonconsultants.com Upcoming events and workshops and online courses: https://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/events/ Located on Nex̱wlélex̱wm (Bowen Island), Sḵwx̱wú7mesh-ulh territory, On Mon, Sep 7, 2026 at 2:22 AM Funda Oral via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > oopps : Every individual in this list can experience freedom and emergent > order with a little Consciousness and Awareness. However > that is *NOT *sufficient to create harmony and love we need to experience > in society. > > Sorry for the mistake. > > Funda > > Funda Oral <fundaoral@gmail.com>, 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt, 11:19 tarihinde şunu > yazdı: > >> thanks Michael, >> >> *"Emergent order appears in Open Space when the conditions for self >> organization are met."* >> >> *In my experience with OST, **"the conditions required for self >> organization"* for emergent order change *from culture* >> *to culture (history, how the society functions, all these play a role) * >> . >> >> * People need* to be safe and respected* to feel free. Enough time >> should be given too (for an OST event). >> >> I agree Control can not be considered as a Condition. I doubt that there >> are unique conditions that can be applied all over the world. >> >> That's what Harrison was right saying: "a good person can work with OST, >> it does not belong to me, it can not be certified" >> >> Every individual in this list can experience freedom and emergent order >> with a little Consciousness and Awareness. However >> that is sufficient to create harmony and love we need to experience in >> society. >> >> Thanks Harrison for this Wisdom🙏 >> >> Regards >> Funda >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org

EA

Elwin and Joan

Mon, Sep 7, 2026 3:35 PM

Funda , Michael and Chris et alHow good to "read" you and renew our confidence on OST.PeaceElwin
On Monday, September 7, 2026 at 11:24:55 AM EDT, Chris Corrigan via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:

We dont need Ooen Space to experience emergence. It is happening all around us at every time.
We use Ioen Space when that emergence is producing order that we want to address directly, usually in the form of a problem or something that we need to change.
The. We introduce a theme and a process and some time constraints and a group of people into the emergent space of life and see if we can address the issue.
What happens in Open Space is sel-organization within chosen constraints. It is deliberately introducing some order to influence what is happening in the wider context.
Harrison is right that we don't have to work so hard. But we do have to work.
Chris.

____CHRIS CORRIGANBlog and resources: http://www.chriscorrigan.comHarvest Moon Consultants: https://www.harvestmoonconsultants.com
Upcoming events and workshops and online courses: https://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/events/
Located on Nex̱wlélex̱wm (Bowen Island), Sḵwx̱wú7mesh-ulh territory,

On Mon, Sep 7, 2026 at 2:22 AM Funda Oral via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:

oopps : Every individual in this list can experience freedom and emergent order with a little Consciousness and Awareness. Howeverthat is NOT sufficient to create harmony and love we need to experience in society.
Sorry for the mistake.
Funda
Funda Oral fundaoral@gmail.com, 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt, 11:19 tarihinde şunu yazdı:

thanks Michael,
"Emergent order appears in Open Space when the conditions for self organization are met."
In my experience with OST, "the conditions required for self organization" for emergent order change from cultureto culture (history, how the society functions, all these play a role) .

People need to be safe and respected to feel free. Enough time should be given too (for an OST event).
I agree Control can not be considered as a Condition. I doubt that there are unique conditions that can be applied all over the world.
That's what Harrison was right saying: "a good person can work with OST, it does not belong to me, it can not be certified"
Every individual in this list can experience freedom and emergent order with a little Consciousness and Awareness. Howeverthat is sufficient to create harmony and love we need to experience in society.
Thanks Harrison for this Wisdom🙏
Regards Funda

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Funda , Michael and Chris et alHow good to "read" you and renew our confidence on OST.PeaceElwin On Monday, September 7, 2026 at 11:24:55 AM EDT, Chris Corrigan via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: We dont need Ooen Space to experience emergence. It is happening all around us at every time. We use Ioen Space when that emergence is producing order that we want to address directly, usually in the form of a problem or something that we need to change. The. We introduce a theme and a process and some time constraints and a group of people into the emergent space of life and see if we can address the issue. What happens in Open Space is sel-organization within chosen constraints. It is deliberately introducing some order to influence what is happening in the wider context. Harrison is right that we don't have to work so hard. But we do have to work. Chris. ____CHRIS CORRIGANBlog and resources: http://www.chriscorrigan.comHarvest Moon Consultants: https://www.harvestmoonconsultants.com Upcoming events and workshops and online courses: https://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/events/ Located on Nex̱wlélex̱wm (Bowen Island), Sḵwx̱wú7mesh-ulh territory, On Mon, Sep 7, 2026 at 2:22 AM Funda Oral via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: oopps : Every individual in this list can experience freedom and emergent order with a little Consciousness and Awareness. Howeverthat is NOT sufficient to create harmony and love we need to experience in society. Sorry for the mistake. Funda Funda Oral <fundaoral@gmail.com>, 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt, 11:19 tarihinde şunu yazdı: thanks Michael, "Emergent order appears in Open Space when the conditions for self organization are met." In my experience with OST, "the conditions required for self organization" for emergent order change from cultureto culture (history, how the society functions, all these play a role) . * People need to be safe and respected to feel free. Enough time should be given too (for an OST event). I agree Control can not be considered as a Condition. I doubt that there are unique conditions that can be applied all over the world. That's what Harrison was right saying: "a good person can work with OST, it does not belong to me, it can not be certified" Every individual in this list can experience freedom and emergent order with a little Consciousness and Awareness. Howeverthat is sufficient to create harmony and love we need to experience in society. Thanks Harrison for this Wisdom🙏 Regards Funda OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org

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Funda Oral

Tue, Sep 8, 2026 7:23 AM

Elwin,

In my opinion, that's the only way out from many problems that human
organizations are facing today.

Regards,
Funda

7 Eyl 2026 Pzt 17:35 tarihinde Elwin and Joan elwinandjoan@yahoo.com şunu
yazdı:

Funda , Michael and Chris et al
How good to "read" you and renew our confidence on OST.
Peace
Elwin

On Monday, September 7, 2026 at 11:24:55 AM EDT, Chris Corrigan via OSList
everyone@oslist.org wrote:

We dont need Ooen Space to experience emergence. It is happening all
around us at every time.

We use Ioen Space when that emergence is producing order that we want to
address directly, usually in the form of a problem or something that we
need to change.

The. We introduce a theme and a process and some time constraints and a
group of people into the emergent space of life and see if we can address
the issue.

What happens in Open Space is sel-organization within chosen constraints.
It is deliberately introducing some order to influence what is happening in
the wider context.

Harrison is right that we don't have to work so hard. But we do have to
work.

Chris.

CHRIS CORRIGAN
Blog and resources: http://www.chriscorrigan.com
Harvest Moon Consultants: https://www.harvestmoonconsultants.com

Upcoming events and workshops and online courses:
https://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/events/

Located on Nex̱wlélex̱wm (Bowen Island), Sḵwx̱wú7mesh-ulh territory,

On Mon, Sep 7, 2026 at 2:22 AM Funda Oral via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:

oopps : Every individual in this list can experience freedom and emergent
order with a little Consciousness and Awareness. However
that is *NOT *sufficient to create harmony and love we need to experience
in society.

Sorry for the mistake.

Funda

Funda Oral fundaoral@gmail.com, 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt, 11:19 tarihinde şunu
yazdı:

thanks Michael,

"Emergent order appears in Open Space when the conditions for self
organization are met."

*In my experience with OST, *"the conditions required for self
organization" for emergent order change from culture
*to culture (history, how the society functions, all these play a role) *
.

People need* to be safe and respected* to feel free. Enough time should
be given too (for an OST event).

I agree Control can not be considered as a Condition. I doubt that there
are unique conditions that can be applied all over the world.

That's what Harrison was right saying: "a good person can work with OST,
it does not belong to me, it can not be certified"

Every individual in this list can experience freedom and emergent order
with a little Consciousness and Awareness. However
that is sufficient to create harmony and love we need to experience in
society.

Thanks Harrison for this Wisdom🙏

Regards
Funda

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Elwin, In my opinion, that's the only way out from many problems that human organizations are facing today. Regards, Funda 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt 17:35 tarihinde Elwin and Joan <elwinandjoan@yahoo.com> şunu yazdı: > Funda , Michael and Chris et al > How good to "read" you and renew our confidence on OST. > Peace > Elwin > > On Monday, September 7, 2026 at 11:24:55 AM EDT, Chris Corrigan via OSList > <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > > We dont need Ooen Space to experience emergence. It is happening all > around us at every time. > > We use Ioen Space when that emergence is producing order that we want to > address directly, usually in the form of a problem or something that we > need to change. > > The. We introduce a theme and a process and some time constraints and a > group of people into the emergent space of life and see if we can address > the issue. > > What happens in Open Space is sel-organization within chosen constraints. > It is deliberately introducing some order to influence what is happening in > the wider context. > > Harrison is right that we don't have to work so hard. But we do have to > work. > > Chris. > > > ____ > CHRIS CORRIGAN > Blog and resources: http://www.chriscorrigan.com > Harvest Moon Consultants: https://www.harvestmoonconsultants.com > > Upcoming events and workshops and online courses: > https://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/events/ > > Located on Nex̱wlélex̱wm (Bowen Island), Sḵwx̱wú7mesh-ulh territory, > > > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2026 at 2:22 AM Funda Oral via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > wrote: > > oopps : Every individual in this list can experience freedom and emergent > order with a little Consciousness and Awareness. However > that is *NOT *sufficient to create harmony and love we need to experience > in society. > > Sorry for the mistake. > > Funda > > Funda Oral <fundaoral@gmail.com>, 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt, 11:19 tarihinde şunu > yazdı: > > thanks Michael, > > *"Emergent order appears in Open Space when the conditions for self > organization are met."* > > *In my experience with OST, **"the conditions required for self > organization"* for emergent order change *from culture* > *to culture (history, how the society functions, all these play a role) * > . > > * People need* to be safe and respected* to feel free. Enough time should > be given too (for an OST event). > > I agree Control can not be considered as a Condition. I doubt that there > are unique conditions that can be applied all over the world. > > That's what Harrison was right saying: "a good person can work with OST, > it does not belong to me, it can not be certified" > > Every individual in this list can experience freedom and emergent order > with a little Consciousness and Awareness. However > that is sufficient to create harmony and love we need to experience in > society. > > Thanks Harrison for this Wisdom🙏 > > Regards > Funda > > > > > > > > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >

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Michael M Pannwitz

Tue, Sep 8, 2026 10:17 AM

In my opinion, thats the only way for human systems to thrive.

In my active work with ost from 1996 to 2012 every gathering in any
culture, in any situation, in any language, in any... was a success when
the prerequisites were in place.

In 1996 and 1997 I read Harrisons Guide before I worked with ost... 20
times.
I began to do one thing less and occasionally added something.
In 2010, two years before I retired, Georg Bischoff and I published
" Meine open space Praxis", 280 pages, 100 pictures.

On August 5, 1999 I informed the LIST on starting a new project at age 59

https://oslist.org/empathy/thread/XYPYYD5ABD66D5JEM7F5GLQZ7G6HCAZM

and placed that email on page 9 of the book of 2010... have a look.

Have a great day wherever you are
mmp

Am 08.09.2026 um 09:23 schrieb Funda Oral via OSList:

Elwin,

In my opinion, that's the only way out from many problems that human
organizations are facing today.

Regards,
Funda

7 Eyl 2026 Pzt 17:35 tarihinde Elwin and Joan elwinandjoan@yahoo.com
şunu yazdı:

 Funda , Michael and Chris et al
 How good to "read" you and renew our confidence on OST.
 Peace
 Elwin

 On Monday, September 7, 2026 at 11:24:55 AM EDT, Chris Corrigan
 via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

Michael M Pannwitz
Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
+49 30 7728000mmpannwitz@posteo.de

Worldwide Open Space on Open Space 2026
https://wosonos26.com/
in Eindhoven, NL
17. - 19. Sept. 2026

In my opinion, thats the only way for human systems to thrive. In my active work with ost from 1996 to 2012 every gathering in any culture, in any situation, in any language, in any... was a success when the prerequisites were in place. In 1996 and 1997 I read Harrisons Guide before I worked with ost... 20 times. I began to do one thing less and occasionally added something. In 2010, two years before I retired, Georg Bischoff and I published " Meine open space Praxis", 280 pages, 100 pictures. On August 5, 1999 I informed the LIST on starting a new project at age 59 > https://oslist.org/empathy/thread/XYPYYD5ABD66D5JEM7F5GLQZ7G6HCAZM and placed that email on page 9 of the book of 2010... have a look. Have a great day wherever you are mmp Am 08.09.2026 um 09:23 schrieb Funda Oral via OSList: > Elwin, > > In my opinion, that's the only way out from many problems that human > organizations are facing today. > > Regards, > Funda > > 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt 17:35 tarihinde Elwin and Joan <elwinandjoan@yahoo.com> > şunu yazdı: > > Funda , Michael and Chris et al > How good to "read" you and renew our confidence on OST. > Peace > Elwin > > On Monday, September 7, 2026 at 11:24:55 AM EDT, Chris Corrigan > via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > > Michael M Pannwitz Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany +49 30 7728000mmpannwitz@posteo.de Worldwide Open Space on Open Space 2026 https://wosonos26.com/ in Eindhoven, NL 17. - 19. Sept. 2026

TH

Thomas Herrmann

Tue, Sep 8, 2026 10:49 AM

Nice read dear Michael
Thanks for aharing
I am another ’job-quitter’ - 26 years ago and numerous OST events.
Hugs 🫂
Thomas Herrmann

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In my opinion, thats the only way for human systems to thrive.

In my active work with ost from 1996 to 2012 every gathering in any culture, in any situation, in any language, in any... was a success when the prerequisites were in place.

In 1996 and 1997 I read Harrisons Guide before I worked with ost... 20 times.
I began to do one thing less and occasionally added something.
In 2010, two years before I retired, Georg Bischoff and I published
" Meine open space Praxis", 280 pages, 100 pictures.

On August 5, 1999 I informed the LIST on starting a new project at age 59
https://oslist.org/empathy/thread/XYPYYD5ABD66D5JEM7F5GLQZ7G6HCAZM
and placed that email on page 9 of the book of 2010... have a look.

Have a great day wherever you are
mmp

Am 08.09.2026 um 09:23 schrieb Funda Oral via OSList:
Elwin,

In my opinion, that's the only way out from many problems that human organizations are facing today.

Regards,
Funda

7 Eyl 2026 Pzt 17:35 tarihinde Elwin and Joan <elwinandjoan@yahoo.com mailto:elwinandjoan@yahoo.com> şunu yazdı:
Funda , Michael and Chris et al
How good to "read" you and renew our confidence on OST.
Peace
Elwin

On Monday, September 7, 2026 at 11:24:55 AM EDT, Chris Corrigan via OSList <everyone@oslist.org mailto:everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

Michael M Pannwitz
Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
+49 30 7728000 mmpannwitz@posteo.de mailto:mmpannwitz@posteo.de

Worldwide Open Space on Open Space 2026
https://wosonos26.com/
in Eindhoven, NL
17. - 19. Sept. 2026

Nice read dear Michael Thanks for aharing I am another ’job-quitter’ - 26 years ago and numerous OST events. Hugs 🫂 Thomas Herrmann Skickat från Outlook för iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ Från: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> Skickat: Tuesday, 08 September 2026 12:17:27 Till: Funda Oral <fundaoral@gmail.com>; elwinandjoan@yahoo.com <elwinandjoan@yahoo.com>; everyone@oslist.org <everyone@oslist.org>; Corrigan, Chris <chris.corrigan@gmail.com> Ämne: [OSList] Re: Illich & Hine In my opinion, thats the only way for human systems to thrive. In my active work with ost from 1996 to 2012 every gathering in any culture, in any situation, in any language, in any... was a success when the prerequisites were in place. In 1996 and 1997 I read Harrisons Guide before I worked with ost... 20 times. I began to do one thing less and occasionally added something. In 2010, two years before I retired, Georg Bischoff and I published " Meine open space Praxis", 280 pages, 100 pictures. On August 5, 1999 I informed the LIST on starting a new project at age 59 https://oslist.org/empathy/thread/XYPYYD5ABD66D5JEM7F5GLQZ7G6HCAZM and placed that email on page 9 of the book of 2010... have a look. Have a great day wherever you are mmp Am 08.09.2026 um 09:23 schrieb Funda Oral via OSList: Elwin, In my opinion, that's the only way out from many problems that human organizations are facing today. Regards, Funda 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt 17:35 tarihinde Elwin and Joan <elwinandjoan@yahoo.com<mailto:elwinandjoan@yahoo.com>> şunu yazdı: Funda , Michael and Chris et al How good to "read" you and renew our confidence on OST. Peace Elwin On Monday, September 7, 2026 at 11:24:55 AM EDT, Chris Corrigan via OSList <everyone@oslist.org<mailto:everyone@oslist.org>> wrote: Michael M Pannwitz Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany +49 30 7728000 mmpannwitz@posteo.de<mailto:mmpannwitz@posteo.de> Worldwide Open Space on Open Space 2026 https://wosonos26.com/ in Eindhoven, NL 17. - 19. Sept. 2026