You are great Michael! I am so happy to have your book here, in Stuttgart, with me and be able to show it to my german speaking friends. As soon as I came across to OST, I knew that it functions from the Dinner Table of my Aunt (in Turkey) and from crowded family meetings of my kindheit. When i came across OST i felt at home and could combine with my universty studies of Business, my job and life experiences. I have facilitated many OST gatherings in Turkey and a few in Germany and many online since 2008. Once, a close friend of mine in İstanbul, a business man asked me: "Funda, tell me what is the difference between our gatherings around a dinner table with Raki?". This made me laugh. Yes, he has right. OST has the capacity to bring the friendship climate to the meetings of humankind (eye level communication, inclusion, freedom) and sound decision making opportunities. regards to all of my great colleagues and friends in the list, Regards, Funda 8 Eyl 2026 Sal 12:17 tarihinde Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz@posteo.de> şunu yazdı: > In my opinion, thats the only way for human systems to thrive. > > In my active work with ost from 1996 to 2012 every gathering in any > culture, in any situation, in any language, in any... was a success when > the prerequisites were in place. > > In 1996 and 1997 I read Harrisons Guide before I worked with ost... 20 > times. > I began to do one thing less and occasionally added something. > In 2010, two years before I retired, Georg Bischoff and I published > " Meine open space Praxis", 280 pages, 100 pictures. > > On August 5, 1999 I informed the LIST on starting a new project at age 59 > > https://oslist.org/empathy/thread/XYPYYD5ABD66D5JEM7F5GLQZ7G6HCAZM > > and placed that email on page 9 of the book of 2010... have a look. > > Have a great day wherever you are > mmp > > > Am 08.09.2026 um 09:23 schrieb Funda Oral via OSList: > > Elwin, > > In my opinion, that's the only way out from many problems that human > organizations are facing today. > > Regards, > Funda > > 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt 17:35 tarihinde Elwin and Joan <elwinandjoan@yahoo.com> > şunu yazdı: > >> Funda , Michael and Chris et al >> How good to "read" you and renew our confidence on OST. >> Peace >> Elwin >> >> On Monday, September 7, 2026 at 11:24:55 AM EDT, Chris Corrigan via >> OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> Michael M PannwitzDraisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Draisweg+1,+12209+Berlin,+Germany?entry=gmail&source=g> > +49 30 7728000 mmpannwitz@posteo.de > > Worldwide Open Space on Open Space 2026https://wosonos26.com/ > in Eindhoven, NL > 17. - 19. Sept. 2026 > > > > > >

Open Space is a two martini idea, so it should probably always have some Raki on hand. > On Sep 8, 2026, at 4:50 AM, Funda Oral via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > You are great Michael! I am so happy to have your book here, in Stuttgart, with me and be able to show it to my german speaking friends. > > As soon as I came across to OST, I knew that it functions from the Dinner Table of my Aunt (in Turkey) and from crowded family meetings of my kindheit. > > When i came across OST i felt at home and could combine with my universty studies of Business, my job and life experiences. > > I have facilitated many OST gatherings in Turkey and a few in Germany and many online since 2008. > > Once, a close friend of mine in İstanbul, a business man asked me: "Funda, tell me what is the difference between our gatherings around a dinner table with Raki?". This made me laugh. > > Yes, he has right. OST has the capacity to bring the friendship climate to the meetings of humankind (eye level communication, inclusion, freedom) and sound decision making opportunities. > > regards to all of my great colleagues and friends in the list, > > Regards, > Funda > > > 8 Eyl 2026 Sal 12:17 tarihinde Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz@posteo.de <mailto:mmpannwitz@posteo.de>> şunu yazdı: >> In my opinion, thats the only way for human systems to thrive. >> >> In my active work with ost from 1996 to 2012 every gathering in any culture, in any situation, in any language, in any... was a success when the prerequisites were in place. >> >> In 1996 and 1997 I read Harrisons Guide before I worked with ost... 20 times. >> I began to do one thing less and occasionally added something. >> In 2010, two years before I retired, Georg Bischoff and I published >> " Meine open space Praxis", 280 pages, 100 pictures. >> >> On August 5, 1999 I informed the LIST on starting a new project at age 59 >>> https://oslist.org/empathy/thread/XYPYYD5ABD66D5JEM7F5GLQZ7G6HCAZM >> and placed that email on page 9 of the book of 2010... have a look. >> >> Have a great day wherever you are >> mmp >> >> >> Am 08.09.2026 um 09:23 schrieb Funda Oral via OSList: >>> Elwin, >>> >>> In my opinion, that's the only way out from many problems that human organizations are facing today. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Funda >>> >>> 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt 17:35 tarihinde Elwin and Joan <elwinandjoan@yahoo.com <mailto:elwinandjoan@yahoo.com>> şunu yazdı: >>>> Funda , Michael and Chris et al >>>> How good to "read" you and renew our confidence on OST. >>>> Peace >>>> Elwin >>>> >>>> On Monday, September 7, 2026 at 11:24:55 AM EDT, Chris Corrigan via OSList <everyone@oslist.org <mailto:everyone@oslist.org>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >> Michael M Pannwitz >> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Draisweg+1,+12209+Berlin,+Germany?entry=gmail&source=g> >> +49 30 7728000 mmpannwitz@posteo.de <mailto:mmpannwitz@posteo.de> >> >> Worldwide Open Space on Open Space 2026 >> https://wosonos26.com/ >> in Eindhoven, NL >> 17. - 19. Sept. 2026 >> >> >> >> > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org

😂 8 Eyl 2026 Sal 17:28 tarihinde Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan@gmail.com> şunu yazdı: > Open Space is a two martini idea, so it should probably always have some > Raki on hand. > > On Sep 8, 2026, at 4:50 AM, Funda Oral via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > wrote: > > You are great Michael! I am so happy to have your book here, in Stuttgart, > with me and be able to show it to my german speaking friends. > > As soon as I came across to OST, I knew that it functions from the Dinner > Table of my Aunt (in Turkey) and from crowded family meetings of my > kindheit. > > When i came across OST i felt at home and could combine with my universty > studies of Business, my job and life experiences. > > I have facilitated many OST gatherings in Turkey and a few in Germany and > many online since 2008. > > Once, a close friend of mine in İstanbul, a business man asked me: "Funda, > tell me what is the difference between our gatherings around a dinner table > with Raki?". This made me laugh. > > Yes, he has right. OST has the capacity to bring the friendship climate to > the meetings of humankind (eye level communication, inclusion, freedom) and > sound decision making opportunities. > > regards to all of my great colleagues and friends in the list, > > Regards, > Funda > > > 8 Eyl 2026 Sal 12:17 tarihinde Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz@posteo.de> > şunu yazdı: > >> In my opinion, thats the only way for human systems to thrive. >> >> In my active work with ost from 1996 to 2012 every gathering in any >> culture, in any situation, in any language, in any... was a success when >> the prerequisites were in place. >> >> In 1996 and 1997 I read Harrisons Guide before I worked with ost... 20 >> times. >> I began to do one thing less and occasionally added something. >> In 2010, two years before I retired, Georg Bischoff and I published >> " Meine open space Praxis", 280 pages, 100 pictures. >> >> On August 5, 1999 I informed the LIST on starting a new project at age 59 >> >> https://oslist.org/empathy/thread/XYPYYD5ABD66D5JEM7F5GLQZ7G6HCAZM >> >> and placed that email on page 9 of the book of 2010... have a look. >> >> Have a great day wherever you are >> mmp >> >> >> Am 08.09.2026 um 09:23 schrieb Funda Oral via OSList: >> >> Elwin, >> >> In my opinion, that's the only way out from many problems that human >> organizations are facing today. >> >> Regards, >> Funda >> >> 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt 17:35 tarihinde Elwin and Joan <elwinandjoan@yahoo.com> >> şunu yazdı: >> >>> Funda , Michael and Chris et al >>> How good to "read" you and renew our confidence on OST. >>> Peace >>> Elwin >>> >>> On Monday, September 7, 2026 at 11:24:55 AM EDT, Chris Corrigan via >>> OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Michael M PannwitzDraisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Draisweg+1,+12209+Berlin,+Germany?entry=gmail&source=g> >> +49 30 7728000 mmpannwitz@posteo.de >> >> Worldwide Open Space on Open Space 2026https://wosonos26.com/ >> in Eindhoven, NL >> 17. - 19. Sept. 2026 >> >> >> >> >> >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > >

 In my opinion, thats the only way for human systems to thrive.

 In my active work with ost from 1996 to 2012 every gathering in
 any culture, in any situation, in any language, in any... was a
 success when the prerequisites were in place.

 In 1996 and 1997 I read Harrisons Guide before I worked with
 ost... 20 times.
 I began to do one thing less and occasionally added something.
 In 2010, two years  before I retired, Georg Bischoff and I  published
 " Meine open space Praxis", 280 pages, 100 pictures.

 On August 5, 1999 I informed the LIST on starting a new project
 at age 59

 https://oslist.org/empathy/thread/XYPYYD5ABD66D5JEM7F5GLQZ7G6HCAZM

 and placed that email on page 9 of the book of 2010... have a look.

 Have a great day wherever you are and come to the WOSonOS in
 Eindhoven
 mmp


 Am 08.09.2026 um 09:23 schrieb Funda Oral via OSList:

 Elwin,

 In my opinion, that's the only way out from many problems that
 human organizations are facing today.

 Regards,
 Funda

 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt 17:35 tarihinde Elwin and Joan
 <elwinandjoan@yahoo.com> şunu yazdı:

     Funda , Michael and Chris et al
     How good to "read" you and renew our confidence on OST.
     Peace
     Elwin

     On Monday, September 7, 2026 at 11:24:55 AM EDT, Chris
     Corrigan via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

 Michael M Pannwitz
 Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Draisweg+1,+12209+Berlin,+Germany?entry=gmail&source=g>
 +49 30 7728000mmpannwitz@posteo.de

 Worldwide Open Space on Open Space 2026
 https://wosonos26.com/
 in Eindhoven, NL
 17. - 19. Sept. 2026

I bet  HO arrived at several insights during or after the two Martinis on his porch... such as /"Never Work Harder than You Have to"/, which eventually was characteristic for us as "peace makers" and was enriched by /Don't Fix it If it Ain't Broke Never Delude Yourself into Thinking You Are in Control /(See /The Practice of Peace /pages 125-130) It is probably a prerequisite for us to be totally present and invisible in our role when we accompany an ost event... (not facilitate)... Greeting from Berlin mmp Am 08.09.2026 um 17:28 schrieb Chris Corrigan: > Open Space is a two martini idea, so it should probably always have > some Raki on hand. > >> On Sep 8, 2026, at 4:50 AM, Funda Oral via OSList >> <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >> >> You are great Michael! I am so happy to have your book here, in >> Stuttgart, with me and be able to show it to my german speaking friends. >> >> As soon as I came across to OST, I knew that it functions from the >> Dinner Table of my Aunt (in Turkey) and from crowded family meetings >> of my kindheit. >> >> When i came across OST i felt at home and could combine with my >> universty studies of Business, my job and life experiences. >> >> I have facilitated many OST gatherings in Turkey  and a few in >> Germany and many online since 2008. >> >> Once, a close friend of mine in İstanbul, a business man asked me: >> "Funda, tell me what is the difference between our gatherings around >> a dinner table with Raki?". This made me laugh. >> >> Yes, he has right. OST has the capacity to bring the friendship >> climate to the meetings of humankind (eye level communication, >> inclusion, freedom) and sound decision making opportunities. >> >> regards to all of my great colleagues and friends in the list, >> >> Regards, >> Funda >> >> >> 8 Eyl 2026 Sal 12:17 tarihinde Michael M Pannwitz >> <mmpannwitz@posteo.de> şunu yazdı: >> >> In my opinion, thats the only way for human systems to thrive. >> >> In my active work with ost from 1996 to 2012 every gathering in >> any culture, in any situation, in any language, in any... was a >> success when the prerequisites were in place. >> >> In 1996 and 1997 I read Harrisons Guide before I worked with >> ost... 20 times. >> I began to do one thing less and occasionally added something. >> In 2010, two years  before I retired, Georg Bischoff and I  published >> " Meine open space Praxis", 280 pages, 100 pictures. >> >> On August 5, 1999 I informed the LIST on starting a new project >> at age 59 >>> https://oslist.org/empathy/thread/XYPYYD5ABD66D5JEM7F5GLQZ7G6HCAZM >> and placed that email on page 9 of the book of 2010... have a look. >> >> Have a great day wherever you are and come to the WOSonOS in >> Eindhoven >> mmp >> >> >> Am 08.09.2026 um 09:23 schrieb Funda Oral via OSList: >>> Elwin, >>> >>> In my opinion, that's the only way out from many problems that >>> human organizations are facing today. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Funda >>> >>> 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt 17:35 tarihinde Elwin and Joan >>> <elwinandjoan@yahoo.com> şunu yazdı: >>> >>> Funda , Michael and Chris et al >>> How good to "read" you and renew our confidence on OST. >>> Peace >>> Elwin >>> >>> On Monday, September 7, 2026 at 11:24:55 AM EDT, Chris >>> Corrigan via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >> Michael M Pannwitz >> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Draisweg+1,+12209+Berlin,+Germany?entry=gmail&source=g> >> +49 30 7728000mmpannwitz@posteo.de >> >> Worldwide Open Space on Open Space 2026 >> https://wosonos26.com/ >> in Eindhoven, NL >> 17. - 19. Sept. 2026 >> >> >> >> >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >> See the archives here: >> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > Michael M Pannwitz Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin +49 30 7728000mmpannwitz@posteo.de Worldwide Open Space on Open Space 2026 https://wosonos26.com/ in Eindhoven, NL 17. - 19. Sept. 2026

I think the last time I saw Harrison in person we were drinking bourbon on Peggy Holman’s porch and he may also have been smoking a cigar. There is a pattern emerging here. > On Sep 8, 2026, at 10:07 AM, Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz@posteo.de> wrote: > > I bet HO arrived at several insights during or after the two Martinis on his porch... > such as "Never Work Harder than You Have to", which eventually was characteristic > for us as "peace makers" and was enriched by > Don't Fix it If it Ain't Broke > Never Delude Yourself into Thinking You Are in Control > > (See The Practice of Peace pages 125-130) > > It is probably a prerequisite for us to be totally present and invisible in > our role when we accompany an ost event... (not facilitate)... > > Greeting from Berlin > mmp > > Am 08.09.2026 um 17:28 schrieb Chris Corrigan: >> Open Space is a two martini idea, so it should probably always have some Raki on hand. >> >>> On Sep 8, 2026, at 4:50 AM, Funda Oral via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> <mailto:everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >>> >>> You are great Michael! I am so happy to have your book here, in Stuttgart, with me and be able to show it to my german speaking friends. >>> >>> As soon as I came across to OST, I knew that it functions from the Dinner Table of my Aunt (in Turkey) and from crowded family meetings of my kindheit. >>> >>> When i came across OST i felt at home and could combine with my universty studies of Business, my job and life experiences. >>> >>> I have facilitated many OST gatherings in Turkey and a few in Germany and many online since 2008. >>> >>> Once, a close friend of mine in İstanbul, a business man asked me: "Funda, tell me what is the difference between our gatherings around a dinner table with Raki?". This made me laugh. >>> >>> Yes, he has right. OST has the capacity to bring the friendship climate to the meetings of humankind (eye level communication, inclusion, freedom) and sound decision making opportunities. >>> >>> regards to all of my great colleagues and friends in the list, >>> >>> Regards, >>> Funda >>> >>> >>> 8 Eyl 2026 Sal 12:17 tarihinde Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz@posteo.de <mailto:mmpannwitz@posteo.de>> şunu yazdı: >>>> In my opinion, thats the only way for human systems to thrive. >>>> >>>> In my active work with ost from 1996 to 2012 every gathering in any culture, in any situation, in any language, in any... was a success when the prerequisites were in place. >>>> >>>> In 1996 and 1997 I read Harrisons Guide before I worked with ost... 20 times. >>>> I began to do one thing less and occasionally added something. >>>> In 2010, two years before I retired, Georg Bischoff and I published >>>> " Meine open space Praxis", 280 pages, 100 pictures. >>>> >>>> On August 5, 1999 I informed the LIST on starting a new project at age 59 >>>>> https://oslist.org/empathy/thread/XYPYYD5ABD66D5JEM7F5GLQZ7G6HCAZM >>>> and placed that email on page 9 of the book of 2010... have a look. >>>> >>>> Have a great day wherever you are and come to the WOSonOS in Eindhoven >>>> mmp >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 08.09.2026 um 09:23 schrieb Funda Oral via OSList: >>>>> Elwin, >>>>> >>>>> In my opinion, that's the only way out from many problems that human organizations are facing today. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Funda >>>>> >>>>> 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt 17:35 tarihinde Elwin and Joan <elwinandjoan@yahoo.com <mailto:elwinandjoan@yahoo.com>> şunu yazdı: >>>>>> Funda , Michael and Chris et al >>>>>> How good to "read" you and renew our confidence on OST. >>>>>> Peace >>>>>> Elwin >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, September 7, 2026 at 11:24:55 AM EDT, Chris Corrigan via OSList <everyone@oslist.org <mailto:everyone@oslist.org>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> Michael M Pannwitz >>>> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Draisweg+1,+12209+Berlin,+Germany?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> +49 30 7728000 mmpannwitz@posteo.de <mailto:mmpannwitz@posteo.de> >>>> >>>> Worldwide Open Space on Open Space 2026 >>>> https://wosonos26.com/ >>>> in Eindhoven, NL >>>> 17. - 19. Sept. 2026 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org <mailto:everyone@oslist.org> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org <mailto:everyone-leave@oslist.org> >>> See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >> > > Michael M Pannwitz > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin > +49 30 7728000 mmpannwitz@posteo.de <mailto:mmpannwitz@posteo.de> > > > Worldwide Open Space on Open Space 2026 > https://wosonos26.com/ > in Eindhoven, NL > 17. - 19. Sept. 2026 > > >

Bourbon?? The only thing I remember Harrison drinking was gin! I vaguely remember the cigars. Just took a look at my calendar. It was in February 2008. We were all younger then. :-} I fell in love with Open Space the first time I saw it in action. It was a 2.5 day Open Space at U S WEST done by Harrison in Arizona with 250 people from all parts and levels of the company. The state was solving for outages that occurred because of flooding. What I saw over that time were the needs of individuals and of the whole system could be met. I didn’t know that was possible until that gathering. Now I use it as an indicator of breakthrough. I had a filmmaker at the event who created a 16 minute video <https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/25251316> that has a nice interview of Harrison interspersed. The experience sent me on a quest to discover the “secret sauce” in which innovation happens. That’s what inspired me to gather all these different systemic/high participation change methods into The Change Handbook <https://bkconnection.com/products/9781523088126_the-change-handbook>. It let me look across them all. When the second edition grew of 18 to 61 methods, it drove me nuts. So I wrote Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity  <https://bkconnection.com/products/9781605095219_engaging-emergence?_pos=1&_psq=Peggy+ho&_psid=95959aede&_ss=e>to articulate my view of that secret sauce. Then I found a simpler way to characterize what I see as the heart of how we create conditions where groups dealing with complexity or conflict emerge with novel insights, stronger, deeper relationships, and paths forward and published it as an article in the Organization Development Review: Emergent Design for Generative Change <https://substack.com/home/post/p-155264757>. Engaging Emergence is still the deep dive. Thanks for starting these reflections Michael. Looking forward to seeing those who are coming to WOSonOS in The Netherlands in about a week! Peggy _________________________________ Peggy Holman peggy@peggyholman.com Bellevue, WA 98006 206-948-0432 www.peggyholman.com Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity <https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become the fire". -- Drew Dellinger > On Sep 8, 2026, at 12:28 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > I think the last time I saw Harrison in person we were drinking bourbon on Peggy Holman’s porch and he may also have been smoking a cigar. There is a pattern emerging here. > >> On Sep 8, 2026, at 10:07 AM, Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz@posteo.de> wrote: >> >> I bet HO arrived at several insights during or after the two Martinis on his porch... >> such as "Never Work Harder than You Have to", which eventually was characteristic >> for us as "peace makers" and was enriched by >> Don't Fix it If it Ain't Broke >> Never Delude Yourself into Thinking You Are in Control >> >> (See The Practice of Peace pages 125-130) >> >> It is probably a prerequisite for us to be totally present and invisible in >> our role when we accompany an ost event... (not facilitate)... >> >> Greeting from Berlin >> mmp >> >> Am 08.09.2026 um 17:28 schrieb Chris Corrigan: >>> Open Space is a two martini idea, so it should probably always have some Raki on hand. >>> >>>> On Sep 8, 2026, at 4:50 AM, Funda Oral via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> <mailto:everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> You are great Michael! I am so happy to have your book here, in Stuttgart, with me and be able to show it to my german speaking friends. >>>> >>>> As soon as I came across to OST, I knew that it functions from the Dinner Table of my Aunt (in Turkey) and from crowded family meetings of my kindheit. >>>> >>>> When i came across OST i felt at home and could combine with my universty studies of Business, my job and life experiences. >>>> >>>> I have facilitated many OST gatherings in Turkey and a few in Germany and many online since 2008. >>>> >>>> Once, a close friend of mine in İstanbul, a business man asked me: "Funda, tell me what is the difference between our gatherings around a dinner table with Raki?". This made me laugh. >>>> >>>> Yes, he has right. OST has the capacity to bring the friendship climate to the meetings of humankind (eye level communication, inclusion, freedom) and sound decision making opportunities. >>>> >>>> regards to all of my great colleagues and friends in the list, >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Funda >>>> >>>> >>>> 8 Eyl 2026 Sal 12:17 tarihinde Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz@posteo.de <mailto:mmpannwitz@posteo.de>> şunu yazdı: >>>>> In my opinion, thats the only way for human systems to thrive. >>>>> >>>>> In my active work with ost from 1996 to 2012 every gathering in any culture, in any situation, in any language, in any... was a success when the prerequisites were in place. >>>>> >>>>> In 1996 and 1997 I read Harrisons Guide before I worked with ost... 20 times. >>>>> I began to do one thing less and occasionally added something. >>>>> In 2010, two years before I retired, Georg Bischoff and I published >>>>> " Meine open space Praxis", 280 pages, 100 pictures. >>>>> >>>>> On August 5, 1999 I informed the LIST on starting a new project at age 59 >>>>>> https://oslist.org/empathy/thread/XYPYYD5ABD66D5JEM7F5GLQZ7G6HCAZM >>>>> and placed that email on page 9 of the book of 2010... have a look. >>>>> >>>>> Have a great day wherever you are and come to the WOSonOS in Eindhoven >>>>> mmp >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am 08.09.2026 um 09:23 schrieb Funda Oral via OSList: >>>>>> Elwin, >>>>>> >>>>>> In my opinion, that's the only way out from many problems that human organizations are facing today. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Funda >>>>>> >>>>>> 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt 17:35 tarihinde Elwin and Joan <elwinandjoan@yahoo.com <mailto:elwinandjoan@yahoo.com>> şunu yazdı: >>>>>>> Funda , Michael and Chris et al >>>>>>> How good to "read" you and renew our confidence on OST. >>>>>>> Peace >>>>>>> Elwin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, September 7, 2026 at 11:24:55 AM EDT, Chris Corrigan via OSList <everyone@oslist.org <mailto:everyone@oslist.org>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> Michael M Pannwitz >>>>> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Draisweg+1,+12209+Berlin,+Germany?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>> +49 30 7728000 mmpannwitz@posteo.de <mailto:mmpannwitz@posteo.de> >>>>> >>>>> Worldwide Open Space on Open Space 2026 >>>>> https://wosonos26.com/ >>>>> in Eindhoven, NL >>>>> 17. - 19. Sept. 2026 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org <mailto:everyone@oslist.org> >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org <mailto:everyone-leave@oslist.org> >>>> See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >>> >> >> Michael M Pannwitz >> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin >> +49 30 7728000 mmpannwitz@posteo.de <mailto:mmpannwitz@posteo.de> >> >> >> Worldwide Open Space on Open Space 2026 >> https://wosonos26.com/ >> in Eindhoven, NL >> 17. - 19. Sept. 2026 >> >> >> > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org

All, I've been lurking in this conversation (and the parallel one with the Hylo and Open Space topic) for quite awhile now. I was always hoping that Chris Corrigan would weigh in because he has taught me so much about Cynefin and constraints and leading in complex spaces (pretty much all human social and/or political interactions that are about change involve complex spaces, it would seem). And then he did! And then I wanted him to say *more* (Chris?), especially about constraints and how they influence what emerges and what iterates and replicates. Chris, if I got this right, you have suggested that on the unpredictable side of the Cynefin framework, that is, in complex spaces, one tends to need more *enabling* constraints, looser constraints that enable the emergence or new orders, and that on the predictable, but not necessarily yet known, side, the complicated space, one tends to need more *governing* constraints, slightly tighter to help with the iteration and improvement of things that have emerged but need more structure to become good practices. This seems to me to be a great way to talk about the difference between the processes in Open Space and in the Hylo systems that Tony describes. I think the laws of Open Space are a really good example of enabling constraints, and the structures and processes of Hylo seem to be great examples of governing constraints. And I'm not meaning to make some hard and fast dichotomies here; first of all the boundaries between complex and complicated are highly permeable and always fluctuating. Second, this is a dance of pattern emergence and pattern replication, and that seems to suggest that the dance is always back and forth. Chris? Would you like to elaborate? Chris also talked about patterns and constraints in this blog <https://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/patterns-and-constraints/> that I love. And in his really deep and cool intensive workshop with Caitlin Frost, Working in complexity inside & out <https://www.harvestmoonconsultants.com/complexity-inside-out.html>, where they explore the processes of leading work on identifying and shifting patterns, using constraints, which I have somewhat simplified (forgive me, Chris, if this is mistaken, but I've seen it work so well, I have to lay it out, and you can correct me if it's too simplified) into, first, *connect* people (in purposeful networks), then encourage *exchanges* among them, then facilitate their forming through *attractors* (*emergent orders)* of smaller clusters to work together on something, then support their forming an *identity* around that work, and then help them create some semi-permeable *boundaries* around it to protect the work as it evolves. This seems like the movement that Tony might have been imagining when he wrote his piece about Open Space and Hylo. The first three or so of these constraints clearly could describe an Open Space gathering. The last two could describe the Hylo process. And there is a very blurry space in-between, and always the possibility of that dance back and forth I described above. Anyone want to comment or continue the discussion? I am so curious to hear what you all think! John Watkins John M. Watkins, EdD (he, him, his) Inquiry & Learning for Change <https://inquirylearningchange.com/> LinkedIn Profile <https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmwatkins/> Oakland California On Tue, Sep 8, 2026 at 12:55 PM Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > Bourbon?? The only thing I remember Harrison drinking was gin! I vaguely > remember the cigars. Just took a look at my calendar. It was in February > 2008. We were all younger then. :-} > > > I fell in love with Open Space the first time I saw it in action. It was a > 2.5 day Open Space at U S WEST done by Harrison in Arizona with 250 people > from all parts and levels of the company. The state was solving for outages > that occurred because of flooding. What I saw over that time were the needs > of individuals and of the whole system could be met. I didn’t know that was > possible until that gathering. Now I use it as an indicator of > breakthrough. I had a filmmaker at the event who created a 16 minute video > <https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/25251316> that has a nice interview of > Harrison interspersed. The experience sent me on a quest to discover the > “secret sauce” in which innovation happens. That’s what inspired me to > gather all these different systemic/high participation change methods into The > Change Handbook > <https://bkconnection.com/products/9781523088126_the-change-handbook>. It > let me look across them all. When the second edition grew of 18 to 61 > methods, it drove me nuts. So I wrote Engaging Emergence: Turning > Upheaval into Opportunity > <https://bkconnection.com/products/9781605095219_engaging-emergence?_pos=1&_psq=Peggy+ho&_psid=95959aede&_ss=e>to > articulate my view of that secret sauce. Then I found a simpler way to > characterize what I see as the heart of how we create conditions where > groups dealing with complexity or conflict emerge with novel insights, > stronger, deeper relationships, and paths forward and published it as an > article in the Organization Development Review: Emergent Design for > Generative Change <https://substack.com/home/post/p-155264757>. Engaging > Emergence is still the deep dive. > > Thanks for starting these reflections Michael. > > Looking forward to seeing those who are coming to WOSonOS in The > Netherlands in about a week! > > Peggy > > > > _________________________________ > Peggy Holman > peggy@peggyholman.com > > Bellevue, WA 98006 > 206-948-0432 <(206)%20948-0432> > www.peggyholman.com > > Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval > into Opportunity <https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> > > "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get > burnt, is to become > the fire". > -- Drew Dellinger > > > > On Sep 8, 2026, at 12:28 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList < > everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > I think the last time I saw Harrison in person we were drinking bourbon on > Peggy Holman’s porch and he may also have been smoking a cigar. There is a > pattern emerging here. > > On Sep 8, 2026, at 10:07 AM, Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz@posteo.de> > wrote: > > I bet HO arrived at several insights during or after the two Martinis on > his porch... > such as *"Never Work Harder than You Have to"*, which eventually was > characteristic > for us as "peace makers" and was enriched by > > > > *Don't Fix it If it Ain't Broke Never Delude Yourself into Thinking You > Are in Control *(See *The Practice of Peace *pages 125-130) > > It is probably a prerequisite for us to be totally present and invisible in > our role when we accompany an ost event... (not facilitate)... > > Greeting from Berlin > mmp > > Am 08.09.2026 um 17:28 schrieb Chris Corrigan: > > Open Space is a two martini idea, so it should probably always have some > Raki on hand. > > On Sep 8, 2026, at 4:50 AM, Funda Oral via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > You are great Michael! I am so happy to have your book here, in Stuttgart, > with me and be able to show it to my german speaking friends. > > As soon as I came across to OST, I knew that it functions from the Dinner > Table of my Aunt (in Turkey) and from crowded family meetings of my > kindheit. > > When i came across OST i felt at home and could combine with my universty > studies of Business, my job and life experiences. > > I have facilitated many OST gatherings in Turkey and a few in Germany and > many online since 2008. > > Once, a close friend of mine in İstanbul, a business man asked me: "Funda, > tell me what is the difference between our gatherings around a dinner table > with Raki?". This made me laugh. > > Yes, he has right. OST has the capacity to bring the friendship climate to > the meetings of humankind (eye level communication, inclusion, freedom) and > sound decision making opportunities. > > regards to all of my great colleagues and friends in the list, > > Regards, > Funda > > > 8 Eyl 2026 Sal 12:17 tarihinde Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz@posteo.de> > şunu yazdı: > >> In my opinion, thats the only way for human systems to thrive. >> >> In my active work with ost from 1996 to 2012 every gathering in any >> culture, in any situation, in any language, in any... was a success when >> the prerequisites were in place. >> >> In 1996 and 1997 I read Harrisons Guide before I worked with ost... 20 >> times. >> I began to do one thing less and occasionally added something. >> In 2010, two years before I retired, Georg Bischoff and I published >> " Meine open space Praxis", 280 pages, 100 pictures. >> >> On August 5, 1999 I informed the LIST on starting a new project at age 59 >> >> https://oslist.org/empathy/thread/XYPYYD5ABD66D5JEM7F5GLQZ7G6HCAZM >> >> and placed that email on page 9 of the book of 2010... have a look. >> >> Have a great day wherever you are and come to the WOSonOS in Eindhoven >> mmp >> >> >> Am 08.09.2026 um 09:23 schrieb Funda Oral via OSList: >> >> Elwin, >> >> In my opinion, that's the only way out from many problems that human >> organizations are facing today. >> >> Regards, >> Funda >> >> 7 Eyl 2026 Pzt 17:35 tarihinde Elwin and Joan <elwinandjoan@yahoo.com> >> şunu yazdı: >> >>> Funda , Michael and Chris et al >>> How good to "read" you and renew our confidence on OST. >>> Peace >>> Elwin >>> >>> On Monday, September 7, 2026 at 11:24:55 AM EDT, Chris Corrigan via >>> OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Michael M PannwitzDraisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Draisweg+1,+12209+Berlin,+Germany?entry=gmail&source=g>+49 30 7728000 <+49%2030%207728000> mmpannwitz@posteo.de >> >> Worldwide Open Space on Open Space 2026https://wosonos26.com/ >> in Eindhoven, NL >> 17. - 19. Sept. 2026 >> >> >> >> >> >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > > > Michael M Pannwitz > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin+49 30 7728000 <+49%2030%207728000> mmpannwitz@posteo.de > > > Worldwide Open Space on Open Space 2026https://wosonos26.com/ > in Eindhoven, NL > 17. - 19. Sept. 2026 > > > > > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org