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Firm dates for WOSonOS! November 6-8

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Peggy Holman
Wed, Mar 12, 2025 3:40 PM

We have dates and a place! Registration should be in place soon…


Peggy Holman
peggy@peggyholman.com

Bellevue, WA  98006
206-948-0432
www.peggyholman.com

Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/

"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become
the fire".
-- Drew Dellinger

We have dates and a place! Registration should be in place soon…  _________________________________ Peggy Holman peggy@peggyholman.com Bellevue, WA 98006 206-948-0432 www.peggyholman.com Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity <https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become the fire". -- Drew Dellinger
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Harold Shinsato
Wed, Mar 12, 2025 7:41 PM

Awesome!

I look forward to the website and registration web pages, but until then
the announcement is part of our archives - and can be shared with this link:

https://oslist.org/empathy/thread/SA564NBEDJI65G72U7DL2SFEEKV6F3ZE

    With anticipation,
    Harold

On 3/12/25 9:40 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList wrote:

We have dates and a place! Registration should be in place soon…

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Peggy Holman
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206-948-0432
www.peggyholman.com

Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval
into Opportunity https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/

"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get
burnt, is to become
the fire".
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Awesome! I look forward to the website and registration web pages, but until then the announcement is part of our archives - and can be shared with this link: https://oslist.org/empathy/thread/SA564NBEDJI65G72U7DL2SFEEKV6F3ZE     With anticipation,     Harold On 3/12/25 9:40 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList wrote: > We have dates and a place! Registration should be in place soon… > > > > PastedGraphic-1.png > > > _________________________________ > Peggy Holman > peggy@peggyholman.com > > Bellevue, WA  98006 > 206-948-0432 > www.peggyholman.com > > Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval > into Opportunity <https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> > > "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get > burnt, is to become > the fire". >   -- Drew Dellinger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OSList mailing list --everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email toeveryone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here:https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org -- Harold Shinsato harold@shinsato.com https://shinsato.com
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Thomas Herrmann
Wed, Mar 12, 2025 7:59 PM

Wonderful. I am sharing it too. Soon on my website.
Looking forward
Thomas

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Peggy Holman
peggy@peggyholman.com

Bellevue, WA  98006
206-948-0432
www.peggyholman.com

Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunityhttps://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/

"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become
the fire".
-- Drew Dellinger

Wonderful. I am sharing it too. Soon on my website. Looking forward Thomas Skickat från Outlook för iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ Från: Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> Skickat: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 4:40:24 PM Till: Open Space Listserv <everyone@oslist.org> Ämne: [OSList] Firm dates for WOSonOS! November 6-8 We have dates and a place! Registration should be in place soon… [PastedGraphic-1.png] _________________________________ Peggy Holman peggy@peggyholman.com Bellevue, WA 98006 206-948-0432 www.peggyholman.com Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity<https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become the fire". -- Drew Dellinger
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Birgitt Williams
Wed, Mar 12, 2025 8:02 PM

Thank you for posting this Peggy. Now that dates are set, I'll send your
post along to colleagues in other African countries with encouragement to
attend.

Ward and I led trainings in Working With Open Space Technology in both
Nigeria and Ethiopia, and we had a leader from Ghana attend the same
training at our home in North Carolina. These people are facilitating using
what they learned. I have one story that was very special to us.

Peter lived in northern Nigeria. Our training took place in Abuja. Peter
used some train travel and did a lot of walking to get to Abuja. His tribe
has chosen him to go to the training to learn on behalf of the tribe, and
he was responsible for sharing what he learned once he got back. Resources
were pooled to make this possible. I picture him doing all that travel, not
easy, and the hope in his heart that he shared about the difference that he
and others could make in northern Nigeria in their work of improving
conditions, particularly for young girls and women...and the many issues
being faced.

As a tall thin person with strong warrior energy, when he arrived I felt a
bit intimidated. it didn't help that when I met him he had just found out
that he had been given the wrong start date of the workshop and it was day
2 of 4. He was so angry, disappointed, and expressive during morning news.
When I found out later in that day that he was a strong advocate of women,
especially against the practice of child brides, and put his life at risk
regularly to fight for the rights of women, I felt chagrined. He, including
his warrior energy, was needed for making the difference. I had no doubt he
would be a great facilitator of OST meetings with just the right themes. I
continue to be grateful to him for his work...and for staying in touch with
me for well over a decade, giving me glimpses into his challenges and his
work. I hope to convince him to attend WOSONOS.

Warmly,
Birgitt
Birgitt Williams
*Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants  *
Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership
development, and the benefits of nourishing  a culture of leadership.

www.dalarinternational.com

Upcoming Workshops
Holistic Leadership Development | June 23-27, 2025 | Waterloo, Canada
Individual Health and Balance for Leaders | November 29, December 5, 12 &
19, 2025 | Online

Learn More & Register

http://www.dalarinternational.com/upcoming-workshops/ for any of these
workshops here.

Go to www.genuinecontact.net http://www.genuinecontact.net to see the
public Genuine Contact training and mentoring options by Genuine Contact
trainers internationally. If you wish to schedule an "in-house" training
for people in your organization, please contact me, Birgitt Williams
birgitt@dalarinternational.com, via email to set up a consultation to
discern what is the best option to meet your development goals.

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Phone: 01-919-522-7750
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On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 11:40 AM Peggy Holman via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

We have dates and a place! Registration should be in place soon…

[image: PastedGraphic-1.png]


Peggy Holman
peggy@peggyholman.com

Bellevue, WA  98006
206-948-0432
www.peggyholman.com

Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval
into Opportunity https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/

"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get
burnt, is to become
the fire".
-- Drew Dellinger

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Thank you for posting this Peggy. Now that dates are set, I'll send your post along to colleagues in other African countries with encouragement to attend. Ward and I led trainings in Working With Open Space Technology in both Nigeria and Ethiopia, and we had a leader from Ghana attend the same training at our home in North Carolina. These people are facilitating using what they learned. I have one story that was very special to us. Peter lived in northern Nigeria. Our training took place in Abuja. Peter used some train travel and did a lot of walking to get to Abuja. His tribe has chosen him to go to the training to learn on behalf of the tribe, and he was responsible for sharing what he learned once he got back. Resources were pooled to make this possible. I picture him doing all that travel, not easy, and the hope in his heart that he shared about the difference that he and others could make in northern Nigeria in their work of improving conditions, particularly for young girls and women...and the many issues being faced. As a tall thin person with strong warrior energy, when he arrived I felt a bit intimidated. it didn't help that when I met him he had just found out that he had been given the wrong start date of the workshop and it was day 2 of 4. He was so angry, disappointed, and expressive during morning news. When I found out later in that day that he was a strong advocate of women, especially against the practice of child brides, and put his life at risk regularly to fight for the rights of women, I felt chagrined. He, including his warrior energy, was needed for making the difference. I had no doubt he would be a great facilitator of OST meetings with just the right themes. I continue to be grateful to him for his work...and for staying in touch with me for well over a decade, giving me glimpses into his challenges and his work. I hope to convince him to attend WOSONOS. Warmly, Birgitt *Birgitt Williams* *Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants * *Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership development, and the benefits of nourishing a culture of leadership.* www.dalarinternational.com *Upcoming Workshops* *Holistic Leadership Development* | June 23-27, 2025 | Waterloo, Canada *Individual Health and Balance for Leaders* | November 29, December 5, 12 & 19, 2025 | Online >> Learn More & Register <http://www.dalarinternational.com/upcoming-workshops/> for any of these workshops here. *Go to www.genuinecontact.net <http://www.genuinecontact.net> to see the public Genuine Contact training and mentoring options by Genuine Contact trainers internationally. If you wish to schedule an "in-house" training for people in your organization, please contact me, Birgitt Williams <birgitt@dalarinternational.com>, via email to set up a consultation to discern what is the best option to meet your development goals.* 16 Sunny Acres Dr., Etowah, North Carolina, USA 28729 Phone: 01-919-522-7750 Like us on Facebook <https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=6677c35b38&e=e7zyhHfiqG> Connect on LinkedIn <https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=c26173f86b&e=e7zyhHfiqG> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 11:40 AM Peggy Holman via OSList < everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > We have dates and a place! Registration should be in place soon… > > > > [image: PastedGraphic-1.png] > > > _________________________________ > Peggy Holman > peggy@peggyholman.com > > Bellevue, WA 98006 > 206-948-0432 > www.peggyholman.com > > Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval > into Opportunity <https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> > > "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get > burnt, is to become > the fire". > -- Drew Dellinger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org
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Peggy Holman
Wed, Mar 12, 2025 8:35 PM

Thanks Birgit and Thomas for getting the word out.

What inspiring stories Birgitt!

Do you — or anyone — know how to reach the man from Balama who does Open Space to let him know about it? I just left a comment on the Peace Work Africa https://peaceworkafrica.net/open-space-de-retour-a-balama/ site that has the video. But it would sure be wonderful to let the person who did that Open Space know WOSonOS is coming to Africa.

Peggy

On Mar 12, 2025, at 1:02 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:

Thank you for posting this Peggy. Now that dates are set, I'll send your post along to colleagues in other African countries with encouragement to attend.

Ward and I led trainings in Working With Open Space Technology in both Nigeria and Ethiopia, and we had a leader from Ghana attend the same training at our home in North Carolina. These people are facilitating using what they learned. I have one story that was very special to us.

Peter lived in northern Nigeria. Our training took place in Abuja. Peter used some train travel and did a lot of walking to get to Abuja. His tribe has chosen him to go to the training to learn on behalf of the tribe, and he was responsible for sharing what he learned once he got back. Resources were pooled to make this possible. I picture him doing all that travel, not easy, and the hope in his heart that he shared about the difference that he and others could make in northern Nigeria in their work of improving conditions, particularly for young girls and women...and the many issues being faced.

As a tall thin person with strong warrior energy, when he arrived I felt a bit intimidated. it didn't help that when I met him he had just found out that he had been given the wrong start date of the workshop and it was day 2 of 4. He was so angry, disappointed, and expressive during morning news. When I found out later in that day that he was a strong advocate of women, especially against the practice of child brides, and put his life at risk regularly to fight for the rights of women, I felt chagrined. He, including his warrior energy, was needed for making the difference. I had no doubt he would be a great facilitator of OST meetings with just the right themes. I continue to be grateful to him for his work...and for staying in touch with me for well over a decade, giving me glimpses into his challenges and his work. I hope to convince him to attend WOSONOS.

Warmly,
Birgitt
Birgitt Williams
Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants
Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership development, and the benefits of nourishing  a culture of leadership.
www.dalarinternational.com http://www.dalarinternational.com/

Upcoming Workshops
Holistic Leadership Development | June 23-27, 2025 | Waterloo, Canada
Individual Health and Balance for Leaders | November 29, December 5, 12 & 19, 2025 | Online

Learn More & Register http://www.dalarinternational.com/upcoming-workshops/ for any of these workshops here.

Go to www.genuinecontact.net http://www.genuinecontact.net/ to see the public Genuine Contact training and mentoring options by Genuine Contact trainers internationally. If you wish to schedule an "in-house" training for people in your organization, please contact me, Birgitt Williams mailto:birgitt@dalarinternational.com, via email to set up a consultation to discern what is the best option to meet your development goals.

16 Sunny Acres Dr., Etowah, North Carolina, USA 28729
Phone: 01-919-522-7750
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On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 11:40 AM Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org mailto:everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

We have dates and a place! Registration should be in place soon…

<PastedGraphic-1.png>


Peggy Holman
peggy@peggyholman.com mailto:peggy@peggyholman.com

Bellevue, WA  98006
206-948-0432
www.peggyholman.com http://www.peggyholman.com/

Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/

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the fire".
-- Drew Dellinger

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Thanks Birgit and Thomas for getting the word out. What inspiring stories Birgitt! Do you — or anyone — know how to reach the man from Balama who does Open Space to let him know about it? I just left a comment on the Peace Work Africa <https://peaceworkafrica.net/open-space-de-retour-a-balama/> site that has the video. But it would sure be wonderful to let the person who did that Open Space know WOSonOS is coming to Africa. Peggy > On Mar 12, 2025, at 1:02 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > Thank you for posting this Peggy. Now that dates are set, I'll send your post along to colleagues in other African countries with encouragement to attend. > > Ward and I led trainings in Working With Open Space Technology in both Nigeria and Ethiopia, and we had a leader from Ghana attend the same training at our home in North Carolina. These people are facilitating using what they learned. I have one story that was very special to us. > > Peter lived in northern Nigeria. Our training took place in Abuja. Peter used some train travel and did a lot of walking to get to Abuja. His tribe has chosen him to go to the training to learn on behalf of the tribe, and he was responsible for sharing what he learned once he got back. Resources were pooled to make this possible. I picture him doing all that travel, not easy, and the hope in his heart that he shared about the difference that he and others could make in northern Nigeria in their work of improving conditions, particularly for young girls and women...and the many issues being faced. > > As a tall thin person with strong warrior energy, when he arrived I felt a bit intimidated. it didn't help that when I met him he had just found out that he had been given the wrong start date of the workshop and it was day 2 of 4. He was so angry, disappointed, and expressive during morning news. When I found out later in that day that he was a strong advocate of women, especially against the practice of child brides, and put his life at risk regularly to fight for the rights of women, I felt chagrined. He, including his warrior energy, was needed for making the difference. I had no doubt he would be a great facilitator of OST meetings with just the right themes. I continue to be grateful to him for his work...and for staying in touch with me for well over a decade, giving me glimpses into his challenges and his work. I hope to convince him to attend WOSONOS. > > Warmly, > Birgitt > Birgitt Williams > Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants > Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership development, and the benefits of nourishing a culture of leadership. > www.dalarinternational.com <http://www.dalarinternational.com/> > > Upcoming Workshops > Holistic Leadership Development | June 23-27, 2025 | Waterloo, Canada > Individual Health and Balance for Leaders | November 29, December 5, 12 & 19, 2025 | Online > > >> Learn More & Register <http://www.dalarinternational.com/upcoming-workshops/> for any of these workshops here. > > Go to www.genuinecontact.net <http://www.genuinecontact.net/> to see the public Genuine Contact training and mentoring options by Genuine Contact trainers internationally. If you wish to schedule an "in-house" training for people in your organization, please contact me, Birgitt Williams <mailto:birgitt@dalarinternational.com>, via email to set up a consultation to discern what is the best option to meet your development goals. > > > > > 16 Sunny Acres Dr., Etowah, North Carolina, USA 28729 > Phone: 01-919-522-7750 > Like us on Facebook <https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=6677c35b38&e=e7zyhHfiqG> > Connect on LinkedIn <https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=c26173f86b&e=e7zyhHfiqG> > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 11:40 AM Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org <mailto:everyone@oslist.org>> wrote: >> We have dates and a place! Registration should be in place soon… >> >> >> >> <PastedGraphic-1.png> >> >> >> _________________________________ >> Peggy Holman >> peggy@peggyholman.com <mailto:peggy@peggyholman.com> >> >> Bellevue, WA 98006 >> 206-948-0432 >> www.peggyholman.com <http://www.peggyholman.com/> >> >> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity <https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> >> >> "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become >> the fire". >> -- Drew Dellinger >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org <mailto:everyone@oslist.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org <mailto:everyone-leave@oslist.org> >> See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org
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Birgitt Williams
Wed, Mar 12, 2025 8:50 PM

Peggy, I don't have that contact info however, don't forget Roma
Iskander  working
in Rwanda who also made a great video and has contacts in Rwanda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5RS2wZJKFQ

Birgitt

Birgitt Williams
*Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants  *
Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership
development, and the benefits of nourishing  a culture of leadership.

www.dalarinternational.com

Upcoming Workshops
Holistic Leadership Development | June 23-27, 2025 | Waterloo, Canada
Individual Health and Balance for Leaders | November 29, December 5, 12 &
19, 2025 | Online

Learn More & Register

http://www.dalarinternational.com/upcoming-workshops/ for any of these
workshops here.

Go to www.genuinecontact.net http://www.genuinecontact.net to see the
public Genuine Contact training and mentoring options by Genuine Contact
trainers internationally. If you wish to schedule an "in-house" training
for people in your organization, please contact me, Birgitt Williams
birgitt@dalarinternational.com, via email to set up a consultation to
discern what is the best option to meet your development goals.

16 Sunny Acres Dr., Etowah, North Carolina, USA 28729
Phone: 01-919-522-7750
Like us on Facebook
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On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 4:35 PM Peggy Holman via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:

Thanks Birgit and Thomas for getting the word out.

What inspiring stories Birgitt!

Do you — or anyone — know how to reach the man from Balama who does Open
Space to let him know about it? I just left a comment on the Peace Work
Africa https://peaceworkafrica.net/open-space-de-retour-a-balama/ site
that has the video. But it would sure be wonderful to let the person who
did that Open Space know WOSonOS is coming to Africa.

Peggy

On Mar 12, 2025, at 1:02 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

Thank you for posting this Peggy. Now that dates are set, I'll send your
post along to colleagues in other African countries with encouragement to
attend.

Ward and I led trainings in Working With Open Space Technology in both
Nigeria and Ethiopia, and we had a leader from Ghana attend the same
training at our home in North Carolina. These people are facilitating using
what they learned. I have one story that was very special to us.

Peter lived in northern Nigeria. Our training took place in Abuja. Peter
used some train travel and did a lot of walking to get to Abuja. His tribe
has chosen him to go to the training to learn on behalf of the tribe, and
he was responsible for sharing what he learned once he got back. Resources
were pooled to make this possible. I picture him doing all that travel, not
easy, and the hope in his heart that he shared about the difference that he
and others could make in northern Nigeria in their work of improving
conditions, particularly for young girls and women...and the many issues
being faced.

As a tall thin person with strong warrior energy, when he arrived I felt a
bit intimidated. it didn't help that when I met him he had just found out
that he had been given the wrong start date of the workshop and it was day
2 of 4. He was so angry, disappointed, and expressive during morning news.
When I found out later in that day that he was a strong advocate of women,
especially against the practice of child brides, and put his life at risk
regularly to fight for the rights of women, I felt chagrined. He, including
his warrior energy, was needed for making the difference. I had no doubt he
would be a great facilitator of OST meetings with just the right themes. I
continue to be grateful to him for his work...and for staying in touch with
me for well over a decade, giving me glimpses into his challenges and his
work. I hope to convince him to attend WOSONOS.

Warmly,
Birgitt
Birgitt Williams
*Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants  *
Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership
development, and the benefits of nourishing  a culture of leadership.

www.dalarinternational.com

Upcoming Workshops
Holistic Leadership Development | June 23-27, 2025 | Waterloo, Canada
Individual Health and Balance for Leaders | November 29, December 5, 12
& 19, 2025 | Online

Learn More & Register

http://www.dalarinternational.com/upcoming-workshops/ for any of these
workshops here.

Go to www.genuinecontact.net http://www.genuinecontact.net/ to see the
public Genuine Contact training and mentoring options by Genuine Contact
trainers internationally. If you wish to schedule an "in-house" training
for people in your organization, please contact me, Birgitt Williams
birgitt@dalarinternational.com, via email to set up a consultation to
discern what is the best option to meet your development goals.

16 Sunny Acres Dr., Etowah, North Carolina, USA 28729
Phone: 01-919-522-7750
Like us on Facebook
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On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 11:40 AM Peggy Holman via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

We have dates and a place! Registration should be in place soon…

<PastedGraphic-1.png>


Peggy Holman
peggy@peggyholman.com

Bellevue, WA  98006
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Peggy, I don't have that contact info however, don't forget Roma Iskander working in Rwanda who also made a great video and has contacts in Rwanda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5RS2wZJKFQ Birgitt *Birgitt Williams* *Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants * *Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership development, and the benefits of nourishing a culture of leadership.* www.dalarinternational.com *Upcoming Workshops* *Holistic Leadership Development* | June 23-27, 2025 | Waterloo, Canada *Individual Health and Balance for Leaders* | November 29, December 5, 12 & 19, 2025 | Online >> Learn More & Register <http://www.dalarinternational.com/upcoming-workshops/> for any of these workshops here. *Go to www.genuinecontact.net <http://www.genuinecontact.net> to see the public Genuine Contact training and mentoring options by Genuine Contact trainers internationally. If you wish to schedule an "in-house" training for people in your organization, please contact me, Birgitt Williams <birgitt@dalarinternational.com>, via email to set up a consultation to discern what is the best option to meet your development goals.* 16 Sunny Acres Dr., Etowah, North Carolina, USA 28729 Phone: 01-919-522-7750 Like us on Facebook <https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=6677c35b38&e=e7zyhHfiqG> Connect on LinkedIn <https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=c26173f86b&e=e7zyhHfiqG> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 4:35 PM Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > Thanks Birgit and Thomas for getting the word out. > > What inspiring stories Birgitt! > > Do you — or anyone — know how to reach the man from Balama who does Open > Space to let him know about it? I just left a comment on the Peace Work > Africa <https://peaceworkafrica.net/open-space-de-retour-a-balama/> site > that has the video. But it would sure be wonderful to let the person who > did that Open Space know WOSonOS is coming to Africa. > > Peggy > > > On Mar 12, 2025, at 1:02 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList < > everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > Thank you for posting this Peggy. Now that dates are set, I'll send your > post along to colleagues in other African countries with encouragement to > attend. > > Ward and I led trainings in Working With Open Space Technology in both > Nigeria and Ethiopia, and we had a leader from Ghana attend the same > training at our home in North Carolina. These people are facilitating using > what they learned. I have one story that was very special to us. > > Peter lived in northern Nigeria. Our training took place in Abuja. Peter > used some train travel and did a lot of walking to get to Abuja. His tribe > has chosen him to go to the training to learn on behalf of the tribe, and > he was responsible for sharing what he learned once he got back. Resources > were pooled to make this possible. I picture him doing all that travel, not > easy, and the hope in his heart that he shared about the difference that he > and others could make in northern Nigeria in their work of improving > conditions, particularly for young girls and women...and the many issues > being faced. > > As a tall thin person with strong warrior energy, when he arrived I felt a > bit intimidated. it didn't help that when I met him he had just found out > that he had been given the wrong start date of the workshop and it was day > 2 of 4. He was so angry, disappointed, and expressive during morning news. > When I found out later in that day that he was a strong advocate of women, > especially against the practice of child brides, and put his life at risk > regularly to fight for the rights of women, I felt chagrined. He, including > his warrior energy, was needed for making the difference. I had no doubt he > would be a great facilitator of OST meetings with just the right themes. I > continue to be grateful to him for his work...and for staying in touch with > me for well over a decade, giving me glimpses into his challenges and his > work. I hope to convince him to attend WOSONOS. > > Warmly, > Birgitt > *Birgitt Williams* > *Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants * > *Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership > development, and the benefits of nourishing a culture of leadership.* > www.dalarinternational.com > > *Upcoming Workshops* > *Holistic Leadership Development* | June 23-27, 2025 | Waterloo, Canada > *Individual Health and Balance for Leaders* | November 29, December 5, 12 > & 19, 2025 | Online > > >> Learn More & Register > <http://www.dalarinternational.com/upcoming-workshops/> for any of these > workshops here. > > *Go to www.genuinecontact.net <http://www.genuinecontact.net/> to see the > public Genuine Contact training and mentoring options by Genuine Contact > trainers internationally. If you wish to schedule an "in-house" training > for people in your organization, please contact me, Birgitt Williams > <birgitt@dalarinternational.com>, via email to set up a consultation to > discern what is the best option to meet your development goals.* > > > > 16 Sunny Acres Dr., Etowah, North Carolina, USA 28729 > Phone: 01-919-522-7750 > Like us on Facebook > <https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=6677c35b38&e=e7zyhHfiqG> > > Connect on LinkedIn > <https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=c26173f86b&e=e7zyhHfiqG> > > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 11:40 AM Peggy Holman via OSList < > everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > >> We have dates and a place! Registration should be in place soon… >> >> >> >> <PastedGraphic-1.png> >> >> >> _________________________________ >> Peggy Holman >> peggy@peggyholman.com >> >> Bellevue, WA 98006 >> 206-948-0432 >> www.peggyholman.com >> >> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval >> into Opportunity <https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> >> >> "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get >> burnt, is to become >> the fire". >> -- Drew Dellinger >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >> See the archives here: >> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org
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Anna Caroline Türk
Thu, Mar 13, 2025 8:12 AM

Hi all!

I have the number of some of the team members who came to Berlin and showed
the film and will pass it on.

I’ll also cc Juliane who was a co-lead of the project. Juliane, shall we
just have a phone call together?

Very excited!
Anna Caroline

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Mentor to Visionary Leaders
+49(0)176 24872254 | TruthCircles.com

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19-21 2025

Birgitt Williams via OSList everyone@oslist.org schrieb am Mi. 12. März
2025 um 21:52:

Peggy, I don't have that contact info however, don't forget Roma Iskander  working
in Rwanda who also made a great video and has contacts in Rwanda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5RS2wZJKFQ

Birgitt

Birgitt Williams
*Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants  *
Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership
development, and the benefits of nourishing  a culture of leadership.

www.dalarinternational.com

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Holistic Leadership Development | June 23-27, 2025 | Waterloo, Canada
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& 19, 2025 | Online

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http://www.dalarinternational.com/upcoming-workshops/ for any of these
workshops here.

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public Genuine Contact training and mentoring options by Genuine Contact
trainers internationally. If you wish to schedule an "in-house" training
for people in your organization, please contact me, Birgitt Williams
birgitt@dalarinternational.com, via email to set up a consultation to
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On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 4:35 PM Peggy Holman via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

Thanks Birgit and Thomas for getting the word out.

What inspiring stories Birgitt!

Do you — or anyone — know how to reach the man from Balama who does Open
Space to let him know about it? I just left a comment on the Peace Work
Africa https://peaceworkafrica.net/open-space-de-retour-a-balama/ site
that has the video. But it would sure be wonderful to let the person who
did that Open Space know WOSonOS is coming to Africa.

Peggy

On Mar 12, 2025, at 1:02 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

Thank you for posting this Peggy. Now that dates are set, I'll send your
post along to colleagues in other African countries with encouragement to
attend.

Ward and I led trainings in Working With Open Space Technology in both
Nigeria and Ethiopia, and we had a leader from Ghana attend the same
training at our home in North Carolina. These people are facilitating using
what they learned. I have one story that was very special to us.

Peter lived in northern Nigeria. Our training took place in Abuja. Peter
used some train travel and did a lot of walking to get to Abuja. His tribe
has chosen him to go to the training to learn on behalf of the tribe, and
he was responsible for sharing what he learned once he got back. Resources
were pooled to make this possible. I picture him doing all that travel, not
easy, and the hope in his heart that he shared about the difference that he
and others could make in northern Nigeria in their work of improving
conditions, particularly for young girls and women...and the many issues
being faced.

As a tall thin person with strong warrior energy, when he arrived I felt
a bit intimidated. it didn't help that when I met him he had just found out
that he had been given the wrong start date of the workshop and it was day
2 of 4. He was so angry, disappointed, and expressive during morning news.
When I found out later in that day that he was a strong advocate of women,
especially against the practice of child brides, and put his life at risk
regularly to fight for the rights of women, I felt chagrined. He, including
his warrior energy, was needed for making the difference. I had no doubt he
would be a great facilitator of OST meetings with just the right themes. I
continue to be grateful to him for his work...and for staying in touch with
me for well over a decade, giving me glimpses into his challenges and his
work. I hope to convince him to attend WOSONOS.

Warmly,
Birgitt
Birgitt Williams
*Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants  *
Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership
development, and the benefits of nourishing  a culture of leadership.

www.dalarinternational.com

Upcoming Workshops
Holistic Leadership Development | June 23-27, 2025 | Waterloo, Canada
Individual Health and Balance for Leaders | November 29, December 5,
12 & 19, 2025 | Online

Learn More & Register

http://www.dalarinternational.com/upcoming-workshops/ for any of these
workshops here.

Go to www.genuinecontact.net http://www.genuinecontact.net/ to see the
public Genuine Contact training and mentoring options by Genuine Contact
trainers internationally. If you wish to schedule an "in-house" training
for people in your organization, please contact me, Birgitt Williams
birgitt@dalarinternational.com, via email to set up a consultation to
discern what is the best option to meet your development goals.

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Phone: 01-919-522-7750
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On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 11:40 AM Peggy Holman via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

We have dates and a place! Registration should be in place soon…

<PastedGraphic-1.png>


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peggy@peggyholman.com

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Hi all! I have the number of some of the team members who came to Berlin and showed the film and will pass it on. I’ll also cc Juliane who was a co-lead of the project. Juliane, shall we just have a phone call together? Very excited! Anna Caroline *Anna Caroline Türk* Mentor to Visionary Leaders +49(0)176 24872254 | TruthCircles.com *Upcoming Facilitation Trainings* online: Strategic Planning the Genuine Contact Way <https://truthcircles.com/strategic-planning/>, 7 sessions Jan & Feb 2025 The Netherlands: Whole Person Process Facilitation <https://truthcircles.com/whole-person-facilitation-training-nl/>, March 19-21 2025 Birgitt Williams via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> schrieb am Mi. 12. März 2025 um 21:52: > > Peggy, I don't have that contact info however, don't forget Roma Iskander working > in Rwanda who also made a great video and has contacts in Rwanda > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5RS2wZJKFQ > > Birgitt > > *Birgitt Williams* > *Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants * > *Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership > development, and the benefits of nourishing a culture of leadership.* > www.dalarinternational.com > > *Upcoming Workshops* > *Holistic Leadership Development* | June 23-27, 2025 | Waterloo, Canada > *Individual Health and Balance for Leaders* | November 29, December 5, 12 > & 19, 2025 | Online > > >> Learn More & Register > <http://www.dalarinternational.com/upcoming-workshops/> for any of these > workshops here. > > *Go to www.genuinecontact.net <http://www.genuinecontact.net> to see the > public Genuine Contact training and mentoring options by Genuine Contact > trainers internationally. If you wish to schedule an "in-house" training > for people in your organization, please contact me, Birgitt Williams > <birgitt@dalarinternational.com>, via email to set up a consultation to > discern what is the best option to meet your development goals.* > > > > 16 Sunny Acres Dr., Etowah, North Carolina, USA 28729 > Phone: 01-919-522-7750 > Like us on Facebook > <https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=6677c35b38&e=e7zyhHfiqG> > > Connect on LinkedIn > <https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=c26173f86b&e=e7zyhHfiqG> > > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 4:35 PM Peggy Holman via OSList < > everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > >> Thanks Birgit and Thomas for getting the word out. >> >> What inspiring stories Birgitt! >> >> Do you — or anyone — know how to reach the man from Balama who does Open >> Space to let him know about it? I just left a comment on the Peace Work >> Africa <https://peaceworkafrica.net/open-space-de-retour-a-balama/> site >> that has the video. But it would sure be wonderful to let the person who >> did that Open Space know WOSonOS is coming to Africa. >> >> Peggy >> >> >> On Mar 12, 2025, at 1:02 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList < >> everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >> >> Thank you for posting this Peggy. Now that dates are set, I'll send your >> post along to colleagues in other African countries with encouragement to >> attend. >> >> Ward and I led trainings in Working With Open Space Technology in both >> Nigeria and Ethiopia, and we had a leader from Ghana attend the same >> training at our home in North Carolina. These people are facilitating using >> what they learned. I have one story that was very special to us. >> >> Peter lived in northern Nigeria. Our training took place in Abuja. Peter >> used some train travel and did a lot of walking to get to Abuja. His tribe >> has chosen him to go to the training to learn on behalf of the tribe, and >> he was responsible for sharing what he learned once he got back. Resources >> were pooled to make this possible. I picture him doing all that travel, not >> easy, and the hope in his heart that he shared about the difference that he >> and others could make in northern Nigeria in their work of improving >> conditions, particularly for young girls and women...and the many issues >> being faced. >> >> As a tall thin person with strong warrior energy, when he arrived I felt >> a bit intimidated. it didn't help that when I met him he had just found out >> that he had been given the wrong start date of the workshop and it was day >> 2 of 4. He was so angry, disappointed, and expressive during morning news. >> When I found out later in that day that he was a strong advocate of women, >> especially against the practice of child brides, and put his life at risk >> regularly to fight for the rights of women, I felt chagrined. He, including >> his warrior energy, was needed for making the difference. I had no doubt he >> would be a great facilitator of OST meetings with just the right themes. I >> continue to be grateful to him for his work...and for staying in touch with >> me for well over a decade, giving me glimpses into his challenges and his >> work. I hope to convince him to attend WOSONOS. >> >> Warmly, >> Birgitt >> *Birgitt Williams* >> *Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants * >> *Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership >> development, and the benefits of nourishing a culture of leadership.* >> www.dalarinternational.com >> >> *Upcoming Workshops* >> *Holistic Leadership Development* | June 23-27, 2025 | Waterloo, Canada >> *Individual Health and Balance for Leaders* | November 29, December 5, >> 12 & 19, 2025 | Online >> >> >> Learn More & Register >> <http://www.dalarinternational.com/upcoming-workshops/> for any of these >> workshops here. >> >> *Go to www.genuinecontact.net <http://www.genuinecontact.net/> to see the >> public Genuine Contact training and mentoring options by Genuine Contact >> trainers internationally. If you wish to schedule an "in-house" training >> for people in your organization, please contact me, Birgitt Williams >> <birgitt@dalarinternational.com>, via email to set up a consultation to >> discern what is the best option to meet your development goals.* >> >> >> >> 16 Sunny Acres Dr., Etowah, North Carolina, USA 28729 >> Phone: 01-919-522-7750 >> Like us on Facebook >> <https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=6677c35b38&e=e7zyhHfiqG> >> >> Connect on LinkedIn >> <https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=c26173f86b&e=e7zyhHfiqG> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 11:40 AM Peggy Holman via OSList < >> everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >> >>> We have dates and a place! Registration should be in place soon… >>> >>> >>> >>> <PastedGraphic-1.png> >>> >>> >>> _________________________________ >>> Peggy Holman >>> peggy@peggyholman.com >>> >>> Bellevue, WA 98006 >>> 206-948-0432 >>> www.peggyholman.com >>> >>> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval >>> into Opportunity <https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> >>> >>> "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get >>> burnt, is to become >>> the fire". >>> -- Drew Dellinger >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >>> See the archives here: >>> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >> >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >> See the archives here: >> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >> >> >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >> See the archives here: >> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org
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Bhavesh Patel
Wed, Apr 2, 2025 10:52 AM

Funny, the very first place where I read the book, and then facilitated a
full 2.5 day OST gathering was Brackenhurst in 2005!!!... maybe Nairobi is
calling me back...

And interestingly Wikimania is also in Nairobi this year:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2025

On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 at 15:41, Peggy Holman via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:

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[image: PastedGraphic-1.png]


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into Opportunity https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/

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Funny, the very first place where I read the book, and then facilitated a full 2.5 day OST gathering was Brackenhurst in 2005!!!... maybe Nairobi is calling me back... And interestingly Wikimania is also in Nairobi this year: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2025 On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 at 15:41, Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > We have dates and a place! Registration should be in place soon… > > > > [image: PastedGraphic-1.png] > > > _________________________________ > Peggy Holman > peggy@peggyholman.com > > Bellevue, WA 98006 > 206-948-0432 > www.peggyholman.com > > Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval > into Opportunity <https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> > > "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get > burnt, is to become > the fire". > -- Drew Dellinger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org