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Peggy Holman
Sun, Sep 8, 2024 5:57 PM

Hi all,

My response to Michael a few minutes ago had me reflecting on the past. I have also been wondering about our present and future. Specifically:

What does this list mean to us now?

Particularly with Harrison’s passing, I wondered what are our needs today?

When the list began in 1996, it was pretty quiet. Over the first 6 months or so, someone posted an occasional question or story. And then, as our numbers grew, the flood gates opened. Stories, questions, poetry, deep dives into the principles and law, and so much more filled our inboxes for years.  Around 41,000 messages have been sent over the last 28 years. (See the archives https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org.) We were there for each other, generous with our stories, willing to ask questions and learn. For example, I did a 2,100 person Open Space in 2001 https://peggyholman.com/papers/articles/good-work-for-2100-colombian-street-kids/ just outside Bogota, Colombia. I had the confidence to do it in part because Harrison and Michael Pannwitz ran one that size and wrote about it on the list.

Over the last few years, the list has been quieter. We’re almost 1,800 people. That got me thinking that many may be quiet because they aren’t sure of the etiquette of the list.

What would it take for anyone who wishes to do so to feel welcome to post?

As long-time participant who has been here since the first post and wants to see this list remain a vital resource to this world-wide community, my thought is to put out a question that anyone here could opt to answer:

What does this list mean to you now?

I figure if enough of us respond, we’ll discover what the list means to us now.

I’m happy to share my answer but prefer to just put out the question for the moment to invite anyone who cares to offer their thoughts on what they want from this list now.

If you feel moved to offer something, it is a gift to us all.

Warmly,
Peggy


Peggy Holman
Co-chair, Berrett-Koehler Foundation https://www.bkfoundation.org/
peggy@peggyholman.com

Bellevue, WA  98006
206-948-0432
www.peggyholman.com

Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/

"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become
the fire".
-- Drew Dellinger

Hi all, My response to Michael a few minutes ago had me reflecting on the past. I have also been wondering about our present and future. Specifically: What does this list mean to us now? Particularly with Harrison’s passing, I wondered what are our needs today? When the list began in 1996, it was pretty quiet. Over the first 6 months or so, someone posted an occasional question or story. And then, as our numbers grew, the flood gates opened. Stories, questions, poetry, deep dives into the principles and law, and so much more filled our inboxes for years. Around 41,000 messages have been sent over the last 28 years. (See the archives <https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org>.) We were there for each other, generous with our stories, willing to ask questions and learn. For example, I did a 2,100 person Open Space in 2001 <https://peggyholman.com/papers/articles/good-work-for-2100-colombian-street-kids/> just outside Bogota, Colombia. I had the confidence to do it in part because Harrison and Michael Pannwitz ran one that size and wrote about it on the list. Over the last few years, the list has been quieter. We’re almost 1,800 people. That got me thinking that many may be quiet because they aren’t sure of the etiquette of the list. What would it take for anyone who wishes to do so to feel welcome to post? As long-time participant who has been here since the first post and wants to see this list remain a vital resource to this world-wide community, my thought is to put out a question that anyone here could opt to answer: What does this list mean to you now? I figure if enough of us respond, we’ll discover what the list means to us now. I’m happy to share my answer but prefer to just put out the question for the moment to invite anyone who cares to offer their thoughts on what they want from this list now. If you feel moved to offer something, it is a gift to us all. Warmly, Peggy _________________________________ Peggy Holman Co-chair, Berrett-Koehler Foundation <https://www.bkfoundation.org/> peggy@peggyholman.com Bellevue, WA 98006 206-948-0432 www.peggyholman.com Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity <https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become the fire". -- Drew Dellinger
C
Cari
Mon, Sep 9, 2024 12:15 AM

Thank yoou for this invitation Peggy
As a newbie to the list - I would say that it represents a way of learning,
knowing, forming... a way to listen to multitudes of experiences and to
even start from the beginning.
I would love the capacity for it to hold all things - that members are
curious about - as well as those experienced hands guiding ...
thank oyu again for asking ..

my heart walks with yours,

CARI TAYLOR

Counsellor / Consultant

..... Giving voice to life’s sacred living system .....

Author- One Living System https://www.cari-taylor.com/one-living-system

W: www.cari-taylor.com  http://www.cari-taylor.com

Substack: https://onelivingsystem.substack.com/

Linkedin:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/caridtaylor/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/one_living_system/
Recognising the elders past present and emerging of the Kuarna people
whose unceded country I work, live and play on. Respecting the land of 'so
called Australia' as always was always will be First Nations land.

Acknowledging diversity and equity in justice for the LGBTIQ+ community

On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 3:28 AM Peggy Holman via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:

Hi all,

My response to Michael a few minutes ago had me reflecting on the past. I
have also been wondering about our present and future. Specifically:

What does this list mean to us now?

Particularly with Harrison’s passing, I wondered what are our needs today?

When the list began in 1996, it was pretty quiet. Over the first 6 months
or so, someone posted an occasional question or story. And then, as our
numbers grew, the flood gates opened. Stories, questions, poetry, deep
dives into the principles and law, and so much more filled our inboxes for
years.  Around 41,000 messages have been sent over the last 28 years. (See
the archives https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org.) We
were there for each other, generous with our stories, willing to ask
questions and learn. For example, I did a 2,100 person Open Space in 2001
https://peggyholman.com/papers/articles/good-work-for-2100-colombian-street-kids/ just
outside Bogota, Colombia. I had the confidence to do it in part because
Harrison and Michael Pannwitz ran one that size and wrote about it on the
list.

Over the last few years, the list has been quieter. We’re almost 1,800
people. That got me thinking that many may be quiet because they aren’t
sure of the etiquette of the list.

What would it take for anyone who wishes to do so to feel welcome to
post?

As long-time participant who has been here since the first post and wants
to see this list remain a vital resource to this world-wide community, my
thought is to put out a question that anyone here could opt to answer:

What does this list mean to you now?

I figure if enough of us respond, we’ll discover what the list means to us
now.

I’m happy to share my answer but prefer to just put out the question for
the moment to invite anyone who cares to offer their thoughts on what they
want from this list now.

If you feel moved to offer something, it is a gift to us all.

Warmly,
Peggy


Peggy Holman
Co-chair, Berrett-Koehler Foundation https://www.bkfoundation.org/
peggy@peggyholman.com

Bellevue, WA  98006
206-948-0432
www.peggyholman.com

Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval
into Opportunity https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/

"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get
burnt, is to become
the fire".
-- Drew Dellinger

OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org
To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org
See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org

Thank yoou for this invitation Peggy As a newbie to the list - I would say that it represents a way of learning, knowing, forming... a way to listen to multitudes of experiences and to even start from the beginning. I would love the capacity for it to hold all things - that members are curious about - as well as those experienced hands guiding ... thank oyu again for asking .. *my heart walks with yours,* *CARI TAYLOR* Counsellor / Consultant *..... Giving voice to life’s sacred living system .....* Author- One Living System <https://www.cari-taylor.com/one-living-system> W: www.cari-taylor.com <http://www.cari-taylor.com> Substack: https://onelivingsystem.substack.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caridtaylor/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/one_living_system/ *Recognising the elders past present and emerging of the Kuarna people whose unceded country I work, live and play on. Respecting the land of 'so called Australia' as always was always will be First Nations land.* *Acknowledging diversity and equity in justice for the LGBTIQ+ community* On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 3:28 AM Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > My response to Michael a few minutes ago had me reflecting on the past. I > have also been wondering about our present and future. Specifically: > > *What does this list mean to us now?* > > Particularly with Harrison’s passing, I wondered what are our needs today? > > > When the list began in 1996, it was pretty quiet. Over the first 6 months > or so, someone posted an occasional question or story. And then, as our > numbers grew, the flood gates opened. Stories, questions, poetry, deep > dives into the principles and law, and so much more filled our inboxes for > years. Around 41,000 messages have been sent over the last 28 years. (See > the archives <https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org>.) We > were there for each other, generous with our stories, willing to ask > questions and learn. For example, I did a 2,100 person Open Space in 2001 > <https://peggyholman.com/papers/articles/good-work-for-2100-colombian-street-kids/> just > outside Bogota, Colombia. I had the confidence to do it in part because > Harrison and Michael Pannwitz ran one that size and wrote about it on the > list. > > Over the last few years, the list has been quieter. We’re almost 1,800 > people. That got me thinking that many may be quiet because they aren’t > sure of the etiquette of the list. > > *What would it take for anyone who wishes to do so to feel welcome to > post?* > > As long-time participant who has been here since the first post and wants > to see this list remain a vital resource to this world-wide community, my > thought is to put out a question that anyone here could opt to answer: > > *What does this list mean to you now?* > > I figure if enough of us respond, we’ll discover what the list means to us > now. > > I’m happy to share my answer but prefer to just put out the question for > the moment to invite anyone who cares to offer their thoughts on what they > want from this list now. > > If you feel moved to offer something, it is a gift to us all. > > Warmly, > Peggy > > > _________________________________ > Peggy Holman > Co-chair, Berrett-Koehler Foundation <https://www.bkfoundation.org/> > peggy@peggyholman.com > > Bellevue, WA 98006 > 206-948-0432 > www.peggyholman.com > > Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval > into Opportunity <https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> > > "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get > burnt, is to become > the fire". > -- Drew Dellinger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org
JW
John Warinner
Mon, Sep 9, 2024 2:19 AM

Hi All -

I have two thoughts to share.

First, with complete respect for the critical role that Harrison played in
the “invention or discovery” and “development” of Open Space, I believe it
would be a failure of the concept for Open Space to wither or perish in the
absence of Harrison’s ongoing sponsorship and support of it.

Akin to Benjamin Franklin’s retort, “A Fepublic, if you can keep it,” the
responsibility for sustaining Open Space is now squarely in the hands of
those of us who have been blessed with it.

Second, for communities to suvive, grow, and thrive, they must be highly
permeable to new members.  I have seen other online communities benefit
greatly from video-based live interaction that provides a much more potent
opportunity for people to associate faces, voices and personalities with
names and relate, communicate and build mutual understanding and trust with
each other far more deeply than is possible with an email based listserve.

So I cast my vote in favor of migrating the OSList community to a more
robust platform (like Mighty Networks) that provides such opportunities for
deeper engagement, interaction, communication, relationships and
collaboration.

With respect,
JohnW

John Warinner(541) 815-4103
johnwarinner@gmail.com johnw@watersolving.com

On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 8:16 PM Cari via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:

Thank yoou for this invitation Peggy
As a newbie to the list - I would say that it represents a way of
learning, knowing, forming... a way to listen to multitudes of experiences
and to even start from the beginning.
I would love the capacity for it to hold all things - that members are
curious about - as well as those experienced hands guiding ...
thank oyu again for asking ..

my heart walks with yours,

CARI TAYLOR

Counsellor / Consultant

..... Giving voice to life’s sacred living system .....

Author- One Living System https://www.cari-taylor.com/one-living-system

W: www.cari-taylor.com  http://www.cari-taylor.com

Substack: https://onelivingsystem.substack.com/

Linkedin:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/caridtaylor/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/one_living_system/
Recognising the elders past present and emerging of the Kuarna people
whose unceded country I work, live and play on. Respecting the land of 'so
called Australia' as always was always will be First Nations land.

Acknowledging diversity and equity in justice for the LGBTIQ+ community

On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 3:28 AM Peggy Holman via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

Hi all,

My response to Michael a few minutes ago had me reflecting on the past. I
have also been wondering about our present and future. Specifically:

What does this list mean to us now?

Particularly with Harrison’s passing, I wondered what are our needs today?

When the list began in 1996, it was pretty quiet. Over the first 6 months
or so, someone posted an occasional question or story. And then, as our
numbers grew, the flood gates opened. Stories, questions, poetry, deep
dives into the principles and law, and so much more filled our inboxes for
years.  Around 41,000 messages have been sent over the last 28 years. (See
the archives https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org.) We
were there for each other, generous with our stories, willing to ask
questions and learn. For example, I did a 2,100 person Open Space in 2001
https://peggyholman.com/papers/articles/good-work-for-2100-colombian-street-kids/ just
outside Bogota, Colombia. I had the confidence to do it in part because
Harrison and Michael Pannwitz ran one that size and wrote about it on the
list.

Over the last few years, the list has been quieter. We’re almost 1,800
people. That got me thinking that many may be quiet because they aren’t
sure of the etiquette of the list.

What would it take for anyone who wishes to do so to feel welcome to
post?

As long-time participant who has been here since the first post and wants
to see this list remain a vital resource to this world-wide community, my
thought is to put out a question that anyone here could opt to answer:

What does this list mean to you now?

I figure if enough of us respond, we’ll discover what the list means to
us now.

I’m happy to share my answer but prefer to just put out the question for
the moment to invite anyone who cares to offer their thoughts on what they
want from this list now.

If you feel moved to offer something, it is a gift to us all.

Warmly,
Peggy


Peggy Holman
Co-chair, Berrett-Koehler Foundation https://www.bkfoundation.org/
peggy@peggyholman.com

Bellevue, WA  98006
206-948-0432
www.peggyholman.com

Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval
into Opportunity https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/

"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get
burnt, is to become
the fire".
-- Drew Dellinger

OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org
To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org
See the archives here:
https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org

OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org
To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org
See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org

Hi All - I have two thoughts to share. First, with complete respect for the critical role that Harrison played in the “invention or discovery” and “development” of Open Space, I believe it would be a failure of the concept for Open Space to wither or perish in the absence of Harrison’s ongoing sponsorship and support of it. Akin to Benjamin Franklin’s retort, “A Fepublic, if you can keep it,” the responsibility for sustaining Open Space is now squarely in the hands of those of us who have been blessed with it. Second, for communities to suvive, grow, and thrive, they must be highly permeable to new members. I have seen other online communities benefit greatly from video-based live interaction that provides a much more potent opportunity for people to associate faces, voices and personalities with names and relate, communicate and build mutual understanding and trust with each other far more deeply than is possible with an email based listserve. So I cast my vote in favor of migrating the OSList community to a more robust platform (like Mighty Networks) that provides such opportunities for deeper engagement, interaction, communication, relationships and collaboration. With respect, JohnW *John Warinner*(541) 815-4103 johnwarinner@gmail.com <johnw@watersolving.com> On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 8:16 PM Cari via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > Thank yoou for this invitation Peggy > As a newbie to the list - I would say that it represents a way of > learning, knowing, forming... a way to listen to multitudes of experiences > and to even start from the beginning. > I would love the capacity for it to hold all things - that members are > curious about - as well as those experienced hands guiding ... > thank oyu again for asking .. > > *my heart walks with yours,* > > *CARI TAYLOR* > > Counsellor / Consultant > > *..... Giving voice to life’s sacred living system .....* > > > Author- One Living System <https://www.cari-taylor.com/one-living-system> > > > > > W: www.cari-taylor.com <http://www.cari-taylor.com> > > Substack: https://onelivingsystem.substack.com/ > > Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caridtaylor/ > > Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/one_living_system/ > *Recognising the elders past present and emerging of the Kuarna people > whose unceded country I work, live and play on. Respecting the land of 'so > called Australia' as always was always will be First Nations land.* > > *Acknowledging diversity and equity in justice for the LGBTIQ+ community* > > > > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 3:28 AM Peggy Holman via OSList < > everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> My response to Michael a few minutes ago had me reflecting on the past. I >> have also been wondering about our present and future. Specifically: >> >> *What does this list mean to us now?* >> >> Particularly with Harrison’s passing, I wondered what are our needs today? >> >> >> When the list began in 1996, it was pretty quiet. Over the first 6 months >> or so, someone posted an occasional question or story. And then, as our >> numbers grew, the flood gates opened. Stories, questions, poetry, deep >> dives into the principles and law, and so much more filled our inboxes for >> years. Around 41,000 messages have been sent over the last 28 years. (See >> the archives <https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org>.) We >> were there for each other, generous with our stories, willing to ask >> questions and learn. For example, I did a 2,100 person Open Space in 2001 >> <https://peggyholman.com/papers/articles/good-work-for-2100-colombian-street-kids/> just >> outside Bogota, Colombia. I had the confidence to do it in part because >> Harrison and Michael Pannwitz ran one that size and wrote about it on the >> list. >> >> Over the last few years, the list has been quieter. We’re almost 1,800 >> people. That got me thinking that many may be quiet because they aren’t >> sure of the etiquette of the list. >> >> *What would it take for anyone who wishes to do so to feel welcome to >> post?* >> >> As long-time participant who has been here since the first post and wants >> to see this list remain a vital resource to this world-wide community, my >> thought is to put out a question that anyone here could opt to answer: >> >> *What does this list mean to you now?* >> >> I figure if enough of us respond, we’ll discover what the list means to >> us now. >> >> I’m happy to share my answer but prefer to just put out the question for >> the moment to invite anyone who cares to offer their thoughts on what they >> want from this list now. >> >> If you feel moved to offer something, it is a gift to us all. >> >> Warmly, >> Peggy >> >> >> _________________________________ >> Peggy Holman >> Co-chair, Berrett-Koehler Foundation <https://www.bkfoundation.org/> >> peggy@peggyholman.com >> >> Bellevue, WA 98006 >> 206-948-0432 >> www.peggyholman.com >> >> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval >> into Opportunity <https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> >> >> "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get >> burnt, is to become >> the fire". >> -- Drew Dellinger >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >> See the archives here: >> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org
GV
Gijs van Wezel Asia
Mon, Sep 9, 2024 7:15 AM

Thank you Peggy for raising this question. I have to admit not being an active contributor, but ....!

The richness of experiences in this community is to be treasured. So I am curious to learn more about John's suggestion to reach out for new members and the dynamic (Mighty?) platform.

🙏to Harrison

Gijs

On 9 Sep 2024, at 10:20 AM, John Warinner via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

Hi All -

I have two thoughts to share.

First, with complete respect for the critical role that Harrison played in the “invention or discovery” and “development” of Open Space, I believe it would be a failure of the concept for Open Space to wither or perish in the absence of Harrison’s ongoing sponsorship and support of it.

Akin to Benjamin Franklin’s retort, “A Fepublic, if you can keep it,” the responsibility for sustaining Open Space is now squarely in the hands of those of us who have been blessed with it.

Second, for communities to suvive, grow, and thrive, they must be highly permeable to new members. I have seen other online communities benefit greatly from video-based live interaction that provides a much more potent opportunity for people to associate faces, voices and personalities with names and relate, communicate and build mutual understanding and trust with each other far more deeply than is possible with an email based listserve.

So I cast my vote in favor of migrating the OSList community to a more robust platform (like Mighty Networks) that provides such opportunities for deeper engagement, interaction, communication, relationships and collaboration.

With respect,

JohnW

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On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 8:16 PM Cari via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

Thank yoou for this invitation PeggyAs a newbie to the list - I would say that it represents a way of learning, knowing, forming... a way to listen to multitudes of experiences and to even start from the beginning.

I would love the capacity for it to hold all things - that members are curious about - as well as those experienced hands guiding ...
thank oyu again for asking ..

my heart walks with yours,

CARI TAYLORCounsellor / Consultant

..... Giving voice to life’s sacred living system .....

Author- One Living System

W: www.cari-taylor.com

Substack: https://onelivingsystem.substack.com/

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caridtaylor/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/one_living_system/

Recognising the elders past present and emerging of the Kuarna people whose unceded country I work, live and play on. Respecting the land of 'so called Australia' as always was always will be First Nations land.
Acknowledging diversity and equity in justice for the LGBTIQ+ community

On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 3:28 AM Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

Hi all,

My response to Michael a few minutes ago had me reflecting on the past. I have also been wondering about our present and future. Specifically:

What does this list mean to us now?

Particularly with Harrison’s passing, I wondered what are our needs today?

When the list began in 1996, it was pretty quiet. Over the first 6 months or so, someone posted an occasional question or story. And then, as our numbers grew, the flood gates opened. Stories, questions, poetry, deep dives into the principles and law, and so much more filled our inboxes for years. Around 41,000 messages have been sent over the last 28 years. (See the archives.) We were there for each other, generous with our stories, willing to ask questions and learn. For example, I did a 2,100 person Open Space in 2001 just outside Bogota, Colombia. I had the confidence to do it in part because Harrison and Michael Pannwitz ran one that size and wrote about it on the list.

Over the last few years, the list has been quieter. We’re almost 1,800 people. That got me thinking that many may be quiet because they aren’t sure of the etiquette of the list.

What would it take for anyone who wishes to do so to feel welcome to post?

As long-time participant who has been here since the first post and wants to see this list remain a vital resource to this world-wide community, my thought is to put out a question that anyone here could opt to answer:

What does this list mean to you now?

I figure if enough of us respond, we’ll discover what the list means to us now.

I’m happy to share my answer but prefer to just put out the question for the moment to invite anyone who cares to offer their thoughts on what they want from this list now.

If you feel moved to offer something, it is a gift to us all.

Warmly,

Peggy


Peggy Holman

Co-chair, Berrett-Koehler Foundation
peggy@peggyholman.com

Bellevue, WA 98006
206-948-0432
www.peggyholman.com

Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity

"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become
the fire".
-- Drew Dellinger

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C
Cari
Mon, Sep 9, 2024 7:21 AM

YES - in agreeance to john an Gijs' curiosity about MN platform and more
than willing to help play in that space if help is needed for set up etc

my heart walks with yours,

CARI TAYLOR

Counsellor / Consultant

..... Giving voice to life’s sacred living system .....

Author- One Living System https://www.cari-taylor.com/one-living-system

W: www.cari-taylor.com  http://www.cari-taylor.com

Substack: https://onelivingsystem.substack.com/

Linkedin:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/caridtaylor/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/one_living_system/
Recognising the elders past present and emerging of the Kuarna people
whose unceded country I work, live and play on. Respecting the land of 'so
called Australia' as always was always will be First Nations land.

Acknowledging diversity and equity in justice for the LGBTIQ+ community

On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 4:45 PM Gijs van Wezel Asia <
gijs@megainternational.com.hk> wrote:

Thank you Peggy for raising this question. I have to admit not being an
active contributor, but ....!
The richness of experiences in this community is to be treasured. So I am
curious to learn more about John's suggestion to reach out for new members
and the dynamic (Mighty?) platform.

🙏to Harrison

Gijs

On 9 Sep 2024, at 10:20 AM, John Warinner via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:


Hi All -

I have two thoughts to share.

First, with complete respect for the critical role that Harrison played in
the “invention or discovery” and “development” of Open Space, I believe it
would be a failure of the concept for Open Space to wither or perish in the
absence of Harrison’s ongoing sponsorship and support of it.

Akin to Benjamin Franklin’s retort, “A Fepublic, if you can keep it,” the
responsibility for sustaining Open Space is now squarely in the hands of
those of us who have been blessed with it.

Second, for communities to suvive, grow, and thrive, they must be highly
permeable to new members.  I have seen other online communities benefit
greatly from video-based live interaction that provides a much more potent
opportunity for people to associate faces, voices and personalities with
names and relate, communicate and build mutual understanding and trust with
each other far more deeply than is possible with an email based listserve.

So I cast my vote in favor of migrating the OSList community to a more
robust platform (like Mighty Networks) that provides such opportunities for
deeper engagement, interaction, communication, relationships and
collaboration.

With respect,
JohnW

John Warinner(541) 815-4103
johnwarinner@gmail.com johnw@watersolving.com

On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 8:16 PM Cari via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:

Thank yoou for this invitation Peggy
As a newbie to the list - I would say that it represents a way of
learning, knowing, forming... a way to listen to multitudes of experiences
and to even start from the beginning.
I would love the capacity for it to hold all things - that members are
curious about - as well as those experienced hands guiding ...
thank oyu again for asking ..

my heart walks with yours,

CARI TAYLOR

Counsellor / Consultant

..... Giving voice to life’s sacred living system .....

Author- One Living System https://www.cari-taylor.com/one-living-system

W: www.cari-taylor.com  http://www.cari-taylor.com

Substack: https://onelivingsystem.substack.com/

Linkedin:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/caridtaylor/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/one_living_system/
Recognising the elders past present and emerging of the Kuarna people
whose unceded country I work, live and play on. Respecting the land of 'so
called Australia' as always was always will be First Nations land.

Acknowledging diversity and equity in justice for the LGBTIQ+ community

On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 3:28 AM Peggy Holman via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

Hi all,

My response to Michael a few minutes ago had me reflecting on the past.
I have also been wondering about our present and future. Specifically:

What does this list mean to us now?

Particularly with Harrison’s passing, I wondered what are our needs
today?

When the list began in 1996, it was pretty quiet. Over the first 6
months or so, someone posted an occasional question or story. And then, as
our numbers grew, the flood gates opened. Stories, questions, poetry, deep
dives into the principles and law, and so much more filled our inboxes for
years.  Around 41,000 messages have been sent over the last 28 years. (See
the archives https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org.) We
were there for each other, generous with our stories, willing to ask
questions and learn. For example, I did a 2,100 person Open Space in
2001
https://peggyholman.com/papers/articles/good-work-for-2100-colombian-street-kids/ just
outside Bogota, Colombia. I had the confidence to do it in part because
Harrison and Michael Pannwitz ran one that size and wrote about it on the
list.

Over the last few years, the list has been quieter. We’re almost 1,800
people. That got me thinking that many may be quiet because they aren’t
sure of the etiquette of the list.

What would it take for anyone who wishes to do so to feel welcome to
post?

As long-time participant who has been here since the first post and
wants to see this list remain a vital resource to this world-wide
community, my thought is to put out a question that anyone here could opt
to answer:

What does this list mean to you now?

I figure if enough of us respond, we’ll discover what the list means to
us now.

I’m happy to share my answer but prefer to just put out the question for
the moment to invite anyone who cares to offer their thoughts on what they
want from this list now.

If you feel moved to offer something, it is a gift to us all.

Warmly,
Peggy


Peggy Holman
Co-chair, Berrett-Koehler Foundation https://www.bkfoundation.org/
peggy@peggyholman.com

Bellevue, WA  98006
206-948-0432
www.peggyholman.com

Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval
into Opportunity https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/

"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get
burnt, is to become
the fire".
-- Drew Dellinger

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To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org
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YES - in agreeance to john an Gijs' curiosity about MN platform and more than willing to help play in that space if help is needed for set up etc *my heart walks with yours,* *CARI TAYLOR* Counsellor / Consultant *..... Giving voice to life’s sacred living system .....* Author- One Living System <https://www.cari-taylor.com/one-living-system> W: www.cari-taylor.com <http://www.cari-taylor.com> Substack: https://onelivingsystem.substack.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caridtaylor/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/one_living_system/ *Recognising the elders past present and emerging of the Kuarna people whose unceded country I work, live and play on. Respecting the land of 'so called Australia' as always was always will be First Nations land.* *Acknowledging diversity and equity in justice for the LGBTIQ+ community* On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 4:45 PM Gijs van Wezel Asia < gijs@megainternational.com.hk> wrote: > Thank you Peggy for raising this question. I have to admit not being an > active contributor, but ....! > The richness of experiences in this community is to be treasured. So I am > curious to learn more about John's suggestion to reach out for new members > and the dynamic (Mighty?) platform. > > 🙏to Harrison > > Gijs > > On 9 Sep 2024, at 10:20 AM, John Warinner via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > wrote: > >  > Hi All - > > I have two thoughts to share. > > First, with complete respect for the critical role that Harrison played in > the “invention or discovery” and “development” of Open Space, I believe it > would be a failure of the concept for Open Space to wither or perish in the > absence of Harrison’s ongoing sponsorship and support of it. > > Akin to Benjamin Franklin’s retort, “A Fepublic, if you can keep it,” the > responsibility for sustaining Open Space is now squarely in the hands of > those of us who have been blessed with it. > > Second, for communities to suvive, grow, and thrive, they must be highly > permeable to new members. I have seen other online communities benefit > greatly from video-based live interaction that provides a much more potent > opportunity for people to associate faces, voices and personalities with > names and relate, communicate and build mutual understanding and trust with > each other far more deeply than is possible with an email based listserve. > > So I cast my vote in favor of migrating the OSList community to a more > robust platform (like Mighty Networks) that provides such opportunities for > deeper engagement, interaction, communication, relationships and > collaboration. > > With respect, > JohnW > > > *John Warinner*(541) 815-4103 > johnwarinner@gmail.com <johnw@watersolving.com> > > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 8:16 PM Cari via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > wrote: > >> Thank yoou for this invitation Peggy >> As a newbie to the list - I would say that it represents a way of >> learning, knowing, forming... a way to listen to multitudes of experiences >> and to even start from the beginning. >> I would love the capacity for it to hold all things - that members are >> curious about - as well as those experienced hands guiding ... >> thank oyu again for asking .. >> >> *my heart walks with yours,* >> >> *CARI TAYLOR* >> >> Counsellor / Consultant >> >> *..... Giving voice to life’s sacred living system .....* >> >> >> Author- One Living System <https://www.cari-taylor.com/one-living-system> >> >> >> >> >> W: www.cari-taylor.com <http://www.cari-taylor.com> >> >> Substack: https://onelivingsystem.substack.com/ >> >> Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caridtaylor/ >> >> Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/one_living_system/ >> *Recognising the elders past present and emerging of the Kuarna people >> whose unceded country I work, live and play on. Respecting the land of 'so >> called Australia' as always was always will be First Nations land.* >> >> *Acknowledging diversity and equity in justice for the LGBTIQ+ community* >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 3:28 AM Peggy Holman via OSList < >> everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> My response to Michael a few minutes ago had me reflecting on the past. >>> I have also been wondering about our present and future. Specifically: >>> >>> *What does this list mean to us now?* >>> >>> Particularly with Harrison’s passing, I wondered what are our needs >>> today? >>> >>> >>> When the list began in 1996, it was pretty quiet. Over the first 6 >>> months or so, someone posted an occasional question or story. And then, as >>> our numbers grew, the flood gates opened. Stories, questions, poetry, deep >>> dives into the principles and law, and so much more filled our inboxes for >>> years. Around 41,000 messages have been sent over the last 28 years. (See >>> the archives <https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org>.) We >>> were there for each other, generous with our stories, willing to ask >>> questions and learn. For example, I did a 2,100 person Open Space in >>> 2001 >>> <https://peggyholman.com/papers/articles/good-work-for-2100-colombian-street-kids/> just >>> outside Bogota, Colombia. I had the confidence to do it in part because >>> Harrison and Michael Pannwitz ran one that size and wrote about it on the >>> list. >>> >>> Over the last few years, the list has been quieter. We’re almost 1,800 >>> people. That got me thinking that many may be quiet because they aren’t >>> sure of the etiquette of the list. >>> >>> *What would it take for anyone who wishes to do so to feel welcome to >>> post?* >>> >>> As long-time participant who has been here since the first post and >>> wants to see this list remain a vital resource to this world-wide >>> community, my thought is to put out a question that anyone here could opt >>> to answer: >>> >>> *What does this list mean to you now?* >>> >>> I figure if enough of us respond, we’ll discover what the list means to >>> us now. >>> >>> I’m happy to share my answer but prefer to just put out the question for >>> the moment to invite anyone who cares to offer their thoughts on what they >>> want from this list now. >>> >>> If you feel moved to offer something, it is a gift to us all. >>> >>> Warmly, >>> Peggy >>> >>> >>> _________________________________ >>> Peggy Holman >>> Co-chair, Berrett-Koehler Foundation <https://www.bkfoundation.org/> >>> peggy@peggyholman.com >>> >>> Bellevue, WA 98006 >>> 206-948-0432 >>> www.peggyholman.com >>> >>> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval >>> into Opportunity <https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> >>> >>> "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get >>> burnt, is to become >>> the fire". >>> -- Drew Dellinger >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >>> See the archives here: >>> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >> >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >> See the archives here: >> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > >
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Tonnie van der Zouwen
Mon, Sep 9, 2024 8:46 AM

Dear all,

Thanks Peggy for reaching out to us.

For me the OSList is a lifeline to stay in touch with other practititioners. Everything you mentioned is still true and very valuable to me. Sharing, asking, connecting, offering, organising,

I know the platform looks simple and does not allow for embedding video and pictures, but I would strongly recommend to keep it this way. It is so easy to use for everyone and other media can be added by links to other platforms like YouTube, Instagram, or the website www.openspaceworld.org.

Yes, it would be good to get new members in. A nice job for everyone of us to invite OS facilitators to this list.

Hope to see you all in Istanbul, in Octobre.

With love

Tonnie van der Zouwen

Verzonden vanaf Outlook voor Androidhttps://aka.ms/AAb9ysg


From: Cari via OSList everyone@oslist.org
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 9:21:06 AM
To: Gijs van Wezel Asia gijs@megainternational.com.hk
Cc: John Warinner johnwarinner@gmail.com; Open Space Listserv everyone@oslist.org
Subject: [OSList] Re: What does this list mean to us now?

YES - in agreeance to john an Gijs' curiosity about MN platform and more than willing to help play in that space if help is needed for set up etc

my heart walks with yours,

CARI TAYLOR

Counsellor / Consultant

..... Giving voice to life’s sacred living system .....

Author- One Living Systemhttps://www.cari-taylor.com/one-living-system

[https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4zz_L1pxWlbsXOjU4bf8tyff4fnXcXNmueZFzPVA5-Pv6oZCTJz7Poim8Dy0f_1NE9EPk8CHG_FWOvX]

W: www.cari-taylor.com  http://www.cari-taylor.com

Substack: https://onelivingsystem.substack.com/

Linkedin:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/caridtaylor/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/one_living_system/

[https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4wQZPcU9Dz_SM0UMF1fTEy01p7nZd4mJDsJoOhFIgcan0S0I9ltcUxgAuAVLLyUhUifCb8I8L0]
Recognising the elders past present and emerging of the Kuarna people whose unceded country I work, live and play on. Respecting the land of 'so called Australia' as always was always will be First Nations land.

Acknowledging diversity and equity in justice for the LGBTIQ+ community

On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 4:45 PM Gijs van Wezel Asia <gijs@megainternational.com.hkmailto:gijs@megainternational.com.hk> wrote:
Thank you Peggy for raising this question. I have to admit not being an active contributor, but ....!
The richness of experiences in this community is to be treasured. So I am curious to learn more about John's suggestion to reach out for new members and the dynamic (Mighty?) platform.

🙏to Harrison

Gijs

On 9 Sep 2024, at 10:20 AM, John Warinner via OSList <everyone@oslist.orgmailto:everyone@oslist.org> wrote:


Hi All -

I have two thoughts to share.

First, with complete respect for the critical role that Harrison played in the “invention or discovery” and “development” of Open Space, I believe it would be a failure of the concept for Open Space to wither or perish in the absence of Harrison’s ongoing sponsorship and support of it.

Akin to Benjamin Franklin’s retort, “A Fepublic, if you can keep it,” the responsibility for sustaining Open Space is now squarely in the hands of those of us who have been blessed with it.

Second, for communities to suvive, grow, and thrive, they must be highly permeable to new members.  I have seen other online communities benefit greatly from video-based live interaction that provides a much more potent opportunity for people to associate faces, voices and personalities with names and relate, communicate and build mutual understanding and trust with each other far more deeply than is possible with an email based listserve.

So I cast my vote in favor of migrating the OSList community to a more robust platform (like Mighty Networks) that provides such opportunities for deeper engagement, interaction, communication, relationships and collaboration.

With respect,
JohnW

John Warinner
(541) 815-4103
johnwarinner@gmail.commailto:johnw@watersolving.com

On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 8:16 PM Cari via OSList <everyone@oslist.orgmailto:everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Thank yoou for this invitation Peggy
As a newbie to the list - I would say that it represents a way of learning, knowing, forming... a way to listen to multitudes of experiences and to even start from the beginning.
I would love the capacity for it to hold all things - that members are curious about - as well as those experienced hands guiding ...
thank oyu again for asking ..

my heart walks with yours,

CARI TAYLOR

Counsellor / Consultant

..... Giving voice to life’s sacred living system .....

Author- One Living Systemhttps://www.cari-taylor.com/one-living-system

[https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4zz_L1pxWlbsXOjU4bf8tyff4fnXcXNmueZFzPVA5-Pv6oZCTJz7Poim8Dy0f_1NE9EPk8CHG_FWOvX]

W: www.cari-taylor.com  http://www.cari-taylor.com

Substack: https://onelivingsystem.substack.com/

Linkedin:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/caridtaylor/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/one_living_system/

[https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4wQZPcU9Dz_SM0UMF1fTEy01p7nZd4mJDsJoOhFIgcan0S0I9ltcUxgAuAVLLyUhUifCb8I8L0]
Recognising the elders past present and emerging of the Kuarna people whose unceded country I work, live and play on. Respecting the land of 'so called Australia' as always was always will be First Nations land.

Acknowledging diversity and equity in justice for the LGBTIQ+ community

On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 3:28 AM Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.orgmailto:everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Hi all,

My response to Michael a few minutes ago had me reflecting on the past. I have also been wondering about our present and future. Specifically:

What does this list mean to us now?

Particularly with Harrison’s passing, I wondered what are our needs today?

When the list began in 1996, it was pretty quiet. Over the first 6 months or so, someone posted an occasional question or story. And then, as our numbers grew, the flood gates opened. Stories, questions, poetry, deep dives into the principles and law, and so much more filled our inboxes for years.  Around 41,000 messages have been sent over the last 28 years. (See the archiveshttps://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org.) We were there for each other, generous with our stories, willing to ask questions and learn. For example, I did a 2,100 person Open Space in 2001https://peggyholman.com/papers/articles/good-work-for-2100-colombian-street-kids/ just outside Bogota, Colombia. I had the confidence to do it in part because Harrison and Michael Pannwitz ran one that size and wrote about it on the list.

Over the last few years, the list has been quieter. We’re almost 1,800 people. That got me thinking that many may be quiet because they aren’t sure of the etiquette of the list.

What would it take for anyone who wishes to do so to feel welcome to post?

As long-time participant who has been here since the first post and wants to see this list remain a vital resource to this world-wide community, my thought is to put out a question that anyone here could opt to answer:

What does this list mean to you now?

I figure if enough of us respond, we’ll discover what the list means to us now.

I’m happy to share my answer but prefer to just put out the question for the moment to invite anyone who cares to offer their thoughts on what they want from this list now.

If you feel moved to offer something, it is a gift to us all.

Warmly,
Peggy


Peggy Holman
Co-chair, Berrett-Koehler Foundationhttps://www.bkfoundation.org/
peggy@peggyholman.commailto:peggy@peggyholman.com

Bellevue, WA  98006
206-948-0432
www.peggyholman.comhttp://www.peggyholman.com

Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunityhttps://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/

"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become
the fire".
-- Drew Dellinger

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Dear all, Thanks Peggy for reaching out to us. For me the OSList is a lifeline to stay in touch with other practititioners. Everything you mentioned is still true and very valuable to me. Sharing, asking, connecting, offering, organising, I know the platform looks simple and does not allow for embedding video and pictures, but I would strongly recommend to keep it this way. It is so easy to use for everyone and other media can be added by links to other platforms like YouTube, Instagram, or the website www.openspaceworld.org. Yes, it would be good to get new members in. A nice job for everyone of us to invite OS facilitators to this list. Hope to see you all in Istanbul, in Octobre. With love Tonnie van der Zouwen Verzonden vanaf Outlook voor Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: Cari via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 9:21:06 AM To: Gijs van Wezel Asia <gijs@megainternational.com.hk> Cc: John Warinner <johnwarinner@gmail.com>; Open Space Listserv <everyone@oslist.org> Subject: [OSList] Re: What does this list mean to us now? YES - in agreeance to john an Gijs' curiosity about MN platform and more than willing to help play in that space if help is needed for set up etc my heart walks with yours, CARI TAYLOR Counsellor / Consultant ..... Giving voice to life’s sacred living system ..... Author- One Living System<https://www.cari-taylor.com/one-living-system> [https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4zz_L1pxWlbsXOjU4bf8tyff4fnXcXNmueZFzPVA5-Pv6oZCTJz7Poim8Dy0f_1NE9EPk8CHG_FWOvX] W: www.cari-taylor.com <http://www.cari-taylor.com> Substack: https://onelivingsystem.substack.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caridtaylor/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/one_living_system/ [https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4wQZPcU9Dz_SM0UMF1fTEy01p7nZd4mJDsJoOhFIgcan0S0I9ltcUxgAuAVLLyUhUifCb8I8L0] Recognising the elders past present and emerging of the Kuarna people whose unceded country I work, live and play on. Respecting the land of 'so called Australia' as always was always will be First Nations land. Acknowledging diversity and equity in justice for the LGBTIQ+ community On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 4:45 PM Gijs van Wezel Asia <gijs@megainternational.com.hk<mailto:gijs@megainternational.com.hk>> wrote: Thank you Peggy for raising this question. I have to admit not being an active contributor, but ....! The richness of experiences in this community is to be treasured. So I am curious to learn more about John's suggestion to reach out for new members and the dynamic (Mighty?) platform. 🙏to Harrison Gijs On 9 Sep 2024, at 10:20 AM, John Warinner via OSList <everyone@oslist.org<mailto:everyone@oslist.org>> wrote:  Hi All - I have two thoughts to share. First, with complete respect for the critical role that Harrison played in the “invention or discovery” and “development” of Open Space, I believe it would be a failure of the concept for Open Space to wither or perish in the absence of Harrison’s ongoing sponsorship and support of it. Akin to Benjamin Franklin’s retort, “A Fepublic, if you can keep it,” the responsibility for sustaining Open Space is now squarely in the hands of those of us who have been blessed with it. Second, for communities to suvive, grow, and thrive, they must be highly permeable to new members. I have seen other online communities benefit greatly from video-based live interaction that provides a much more potent opportunity for people to associate faces, voices and personalities with names and relate, communicate and build mutual understanding and trust with each other far more deeply than is possible with an email based listserve. So I cast my vote in favor of migrating the OSList community to a more robust platform (like Mighty Networks) that provides such opportunities for deeper engagement, interaction, communication, relationships and collaboration. With respect, JohnW John Warinner (541) 815-4103 johnwarinner@gmail.com<mailto:johnw@watersolving.com> On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 8:16 PM Cari via OSList <everyone@oslist.org<mailto:everyone@oslist.org>> wrote: Thank yoou for this invitation Peggy As a newbie to the list - I would say that it represents a way of learning, knowing, forming... a way to listen to multitudes of experiences and to even start from the beginning. I would love the capacity for it to hold all things - that members are curious about - as well as those experienced hands guiding ... thank oyu again for asking .. my heart walks with yours, CARI TAYLOR Counsellor / Consultant ..... Giving voice to life’s sacred living system ..... Author- One Living System<https://www.cari-taylor.com/one-living-system> [https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4zz_L1pxWlbsXOjU4bf8tyff4fnXcXNmueZFzPVA5-Pv6oZCTJz7Poim8Dy0f_1NE9EPk8CHG_FWOvX] W: www.cari-taylor.com <http://www.cari-taylor.com> Substack: https://onelivingsystem.substack.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caridtaylor/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/one_living_system/ [https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4wQZPcU9Dz_SM0UMF1fTEy01p7nZd4mJDsJoOhFIgcan0S0I9ltcUxgAuAVLLyUhUifCb8I8L0] Recognising the elders past present and emerging of the Kuarna people whose unceded country I work, live and play on. Respecting the land of 'so called Australia' as always was always will be First Nations land. Acknowledging diversity and equity in justice for the LGBTIQ+ community On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 3:28 AM Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org<mailto:everyone@oslist.org>> wrote: Hi all, My response to Michael a few minutes ago had me reflecting on the past. I have also been wondering about our present and future. Specifically: What does this list mean to us now? Particularly with Harrison’s passing, I wondered what are our needs today? When the list began in 1996, it was pretty quiet. Over the first 6 months or so, someone posted an occasional question or story. And then, as our numbers grew, the flood gates opened. Stories, questions, poetry, deep dives into the principles and law, and so much more filled our inboxes for years. Around 41,000 messages have been sent over the last 28 years. (See the archives<https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org>.) We were there for each other, generous with our stories, willing to ask questions and learn. For example, I did a 2,100 person Open Space in 2001<https://peggyholman.com/papers/articles/good-work-for-2100-colombian-street-kids/> just outside Bogota, Colombia. I had the confidence to do it in part because Harrison and Michael Pannwitz ran one that size and wrote about it on the list. Over the last few years, the list has been quieter. We’re almost 1,800 people. That got me thinking that many may be quiet because they aren’t sure of the etiquette of the list. What would it take for anyone who wishes to do so to feel welcome to post? As long-time participant who has been here since the first post and wants to see this list remain a vital resource to this world-wide community, my thought is to put out a question that anyone here could opt to answer: What does this list mean to you now? I figure if enough of us respond, we’ll discover what the list means to us now. I’m happy to share my answer but prefer to just put out the question for the moment to invite anyone who cares to offer their thoughts on what they want from this list now. If you feel moved to offer something, it is a gift to us all. Warmly, Peggy _________________________________ Peggy Holman Co-chair, Berrett-Koehler Foundation<https://www.bkfoundation.org/> peggy@peggyholman.com<mailto:peggy@peggyholman.com> Bellevue, WA 98006 206-948-0432 www.peggyholman.com<http://www.peggyholman.com> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity<https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become the fire". -- Drew Dellinger OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org<mailto:everyone@oslist.org> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org<mailto:everyone-leave@oslist.org> See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org<mailto:everyone@oslist.org> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org<mailto:everyone-leave@oslist.org> See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org<mailto:everyone@oslist.org> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org<mailto:everyone-leave@oslist.org> See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org
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Thomas Perret
Mon, Sep 9, 2024 1:46 PM

Hi Peggy and all,

It means access to wisdom and support, and a certain culture.

Even if it was no more, for me it serves a watermark of what generosity can be in a community of practice. Just this morning I mentioned it to a friend – a culture where a first-timer has had reflections and stories from the most experienced (in the world), sometimes within a matter of hours. This is what impressed me from my start.

Thomas

On 8. Sep 2024, at 20.57, Peggy Holman via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:

What does this list mean to you now?

Hi Peggy and all, It means access to wisdom and support, and a certain culture. Even if it was no more, for me it serves a watermark of what generosity can be in a community of practice. Just this morning I mentioned it to a friend – a culture where a first-timer has had reflections and stories from the most experienced (in the world), sometimes within a matter of hours. This is what impressed me from my start. Thomas > On 8. Sep 2024, at 20.57, Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > What does this list mean to you now? >
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Chris Corrigan
Mon, Sep 9, 2024 2:07 PM

I’m definitely in favour of “find one more thing not to do.”  There are lots of places for people to connect about Open Space and more might be better. But the beauty of this one is that anyone can join, anyone can read and we all own it. The more our commons is contained within specific tools, apps and systems, the less access the entire world has to them. Email is ubiquitous.

So yes to folks finding all manner of ways to connect. And yes to the long continued life of the OSLIST.

Chris.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2024, at 6:46 AM, Thomas Perret via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:


Hi Peggy and all,

It means access to wisdom and support, and a certain culture.

Even if it was no more, for me it serves a watermark of what generosity can be in a community of practice. Just this morning I mentioned it to a friend – a culture where a first-timer has had reflections and stories from the most experienced (in the world), sometimes within a matter of hours. This is what impressed me from my start.

Thomas

On 8. Sep 2024, at 20.57, Peggy Holman via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:

What does this list mean to you now?

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I’m definitely in favour of “find one more thing not to do.” There are lots of places for people to connect about Open Space and more might be better. But the beauty of this one is that anyone can join, anyone can read and we all own it. The more our commons is contained within specific tools, apps and systems, the less access the entire world has to them. Email is ubiquitous. So yes to folks finding all manner of ways to connect. And yes to the long continued life of the OSLIST. Chris. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 9, 2024, at 6:46 AM, Thomas Perret via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > >  > Hi Peggy and all, > > It means access to wisdom and support, and a certain culture. > > Even if it was no more, for me it serves a watermark of what generosity can be in a community of practice. Just this morning I mentioned it to a friend – a culture where a first-timer has had reflections and stories from the most experienced (in the world), sometimes within a matter of hours. This is what impressed me from my start. > > Thomas > > > >> On 8. Sep 2024, at 20.57, Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >> >> What does this list mean to you now? >> > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org
JS
Jason Sears
Mon, Sep 9, 2024 2:29 PM

I appreciate this invitation to post - this is my first time and have been
on the list for about 9 months.  This list for me has been a connection to
the story of Open Space beyond my own practice of it.  I have felt this
list is mainly a social tie for a community that has cultivated this
practice over the years.  I enjoy reading your posts and learning more
about the stories and history.

I hope to get to know some of you on this list somehow... maybe even attend
a WOSonOS!

Also, I just want to share that our project (VillageCo) is bringing open
space into neighborhoods throughout the US and the world as part of our
Village Gathering Model aimed at building local connections.  Our first
pilot project is launching soon https://www.villageco.org/buildersand we
have a group conducting research to help us co-learn and evolve.  Will
certainly share what we learn and what emerges!

Deeply appreciate your support, Peggy, and Michael, (and Harrison - still
with us in spirit) - we move forward from your wisdom and example.

Jason Sears,
Administrative Director
http://www.VillageCo.org
www.VillageCo.org
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonsears78/
Schedule an appointment with me here
https://calendar.app.google/vDbPQjRSYZfjm4kZ7

On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 8:08 AM Chris Corrigan via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

I’m definitely in favour of “find one more thing not to do.”  There are
lots of places for people to connect about Open Space and more might be
better. But the beauty of this one is that anyone can join, anyone can read
and we all own it. The more our commons is contained within specific tools,
apps and systems, the less access the entire world has to them. Email is
ubiquitous.

So yes to folks finding all manner of ways to connect. And yes to the long
continued life of the OSLIST.

Chris.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2024, at 6:46 AM, Thomas Perret via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:


Hi Peggy and all,

It means access to wisdom and support, and a certain culture.

Even if it was no more, for me it serves a watermark of what generosity
can be in a community of practice. Just this morning I mentioned it to a
friend – a culture where a first-timer has had reflections and stories from
the most experienced (in the world), sometimes within a matter of hours.
This is what impressed me from my start.

Thomas

On 8. Sep 2024, at 20.57, Peggy Holman via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:

What does this list mean to you now?

OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org
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OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org
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I appreciate this invitation to post - this is my first time and have been on the list for about 9 months. This list for me has been a connection to the story of Open Space beyond my own practice of it. I have felt this list is mainly a social tie for a community that has cultivated this practice over the years. I enjoy reading your posts and learning more about the stories and history. I hope to get to know some of you on this list somehow... maybe even attend a WOSonOS! Also, I just want to share that our project (VillageCo) is bringing open space into neighborhoods throughout the US and the world as part of our Village Gathering Model aimed at building local connections. Our first pilot project is launching soon <https://www.villageco.org/builders>and we have a group conducting research to help us co-learn and evolve. Will certainly share what we learn and what emerges! Deeply appreciate your support, Peggy, and Michael, (and Harrison - still with us in spirit) - we move forward from your wisdom and example. *Jason Sears,* Administrative Director <http://www.VillageCo.org> www.VillageCo.org https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonsears78/ *Schedule an appointment* with me here <https://calendar.app.google/vDbPQjRSYZfjm4kZ7> On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 8:08 AM Chris Corrigan via OSList < everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > I’m definitely in favour of “find one more thing not to do.” There are > lots of places for people to connect about Open Space and more might be > better. But the beauty of this one is that anyone can join, anyone can read > and we all own it. The more our commons is contained within specific tools, > apps and systems, the less access the entire world has to them. Email is > ubiquitous. > > So yes to folks finding all manner of ways to connect. And yes to the long > continued life of the OSLIST. > > Chris. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 9, 2024, at 6:46 AM, Thomas Perret via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > wrote: > >  > Hi Peggy and all, > > It means access to wisdom and support, and a certain culture. > > Even if it was no more, for me it serves a watermark of what generosity > can be in a community of practice. Just this morning I mentioned it to a > friend – a culture where a first-timer has had reflections and stories from > the most experienced (in the world), sometimes within a matter of hours. > This is what impressed me from my start. > > Thomas > > > > On 8. Sep 2024, at 20.57, Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > wrote: > > *What does this list mean to you now?* > > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org
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Michael M Pannwitz
Mon, Sep 9, 2024 3:22 PM

Dear Jason,

looking at your Village Gathering Model I remembered that Harrison Owen
drew on his experience of what we now would call an "open space"
gathering (totally selforganized)
in a village while in Africa for the Peace Corps.

Yes, attending a WOSonOS is a good idea.
You probably are aware of this years WOSonOS in Istanbul

When you look at the "co-invitors"

you will see some of the colleagues in our OSLIST that are in the LIST
from the start...
and some of them are in your list of  "Our Team" such as Peggy Holman,
Village Seattle Co-Founder...

Wishing you all the best for your village project kicking off in two weeks!

 Greetings from Berlin that grew out of two dozend villages...

cheers
mmp

Am 09.09.2024 um 16:29 schrieb Jason Sears via OSList:

I appreciate this invitation to post - this is my first time and have
been on the list for about 9 months.  This list for me has been a
connection to the story of Open Space beyond my own practice of it.  I
have felt this list is mainly a social tie for a community that has
cultivated this practice over the years.  I enjoy reading your posts
and learning more about the stories and history.

I hope to get to know some of you on this list somehow... maybe even
attend a WOSonOS!

Also, I just want to share that our project (VillageCo) is bringing
open space into neighborhoods throughout the US and the world as part
of our Village Gathering Model aimed at building local connections.
Our first pilot project is launching soon
https://www.villageco.org/buildersand we have a group conducting
research to help us co-learn and evolve.  Will certainly share what we
learn and what emerges!

Deeply appreciate your support, Peggy, and Michael, (and Harrison -
still with us in spirit) - we move forward from your wisdom and example.
*
*
Jason Sears,
Administrative Director
http://www.VillageCo.org
www.VillageCo.org http://www.VillageCo.org
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonsears78/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonsears78/
Schedule an appointment with me here
https://calendar.app.google/vDbPQjRSYZfjm4kZ7

On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 8:08 AM Chris Corrigan via OSList
everyone@oslist.org wrote:

 I’m definitely in favour of “find one more thing not to do.”
  There are lots of places for people to connect about Open Space
 and more might be better. But the beauty of this one is that
 anyone can join, anyone can read and we all own it. The more our
 commons is contained within specific tools, apps and systems, the
 less access the entire world has to them. Email is ubiquitous.

 So yes to folks finding all manner of ways to connect. And yes to
 the long continued life of the OSLIST.

 Chris.


 Sent from my iPhone
 On Sep 9, 2024, at 6:46 AM, Thomas Perret via OSList
 <everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

 
 Hi Peggy and all,

 It means access to wisdom and support, and a certain culture.

 Even if it was no more, for me it serves a watermark of what
 generosity can be in a community of practice. Just this morning I
 mentioned it to a friend – a culture where a first-timer has had
 reflections and stories from the most experienced (in the world),
 sometimes within a matter of hours. This is what impressed me
 from my start.

 Thomas
 On 8. Sep 2024, at 20.57, Peggy Holman via OSList
 <everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

 *What does this list mean to you now?*
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 https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org
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+49 30 7728000mmpannwitz@posteo.de

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Dear Jason, looking at your Village Gathering Model I remembered that Harrison Owen drew on his experience of what we now would call an "open space" gathering (totally selforganized) in a village while in Africa for the Peace Corps. Yes, attending a WOSonOS is a good idea. You probably are aware of this years WOSonOS in Istanbul > https://wosonos2024.istanbul/ When you look at the "co-invitors" > https://wosonos2024.istanbul/co-inviters/ you will see some of the colleagues in our OSLIST that are in the LIST from the start... and some of them are in your list of  "Our Team" such as Peggy Holman, Village Seattle Co-Founder... Wishing you all the best for your village project kicking off in two weeks!  Greetings from Berlin that grew out of two dozend villages... cheers mmp Am 09.09.2024 um 16:29 schrieb Jason Sears via OSList: > I appreciate this invitation to post - this is my first time and have > been on the list for about 9 months.  This list for me has been a > connection to the story of Open Space beyond my own practice of it.  I > have felt this list is mainly a social tie for a community that has > cultivated this practice over the years.  I enjoy reading your posts > and learning more about the stories and history. > > I hope to get to know some of you on this list somehow... maybe even > attend a WOSonOS! > > Also, I just want to share that our project (VillageCo) is bringing > open space into neighborhoods throughout the US and the world as part > of our Village Gathering Model aimed at building local connections. > Our first pilot project is launching soon > <https://www.villageco.org/builders>and we have a group conducting > research to help us co-learn and evolve.  Will certainly share what we > learn and what emerges! > > Deeply appreciate your support, Peggy, and Michael, (and Harrison - > still with us in spirit) - we move forward from your wisdom and example. > * > * > *Jason Sears,* > Administrative Director > <http://www.VillageCo.org> > www.VillageCo.org <http://www.VillageCo.org> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonsears78/ > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonsears78/> > *Schedule an appointment* with me here > <https://calendar.app.google/vDbPQjRSYZfjm4kZ7> > > > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 8:08 AM Chris Corrigan via OSList > <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > I’m definitely in favour of “find one more thing not to do.” >  There are lots of places for people to connect about Open Space > and more might be better. But the beauty of this one is that > anyone can join, anyone can read and we all own it. The more our > commons is contained within specific tools, apps and systems, the > less access the entire world has to them. Email is ubiquitous. > > So yes to folks finding all manner of ways to connect. And yes to > the long continued life of the OSLIST. > > Chris. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 9, 2024, at 6:46 AM, Thomas Perret via OSList >> <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >> >>  >> Hi Peggy and all, >> >> It means access to wisdom and support, and a certain culture. >> >> Even if it was no more, for me it serves a watermark of what >> generosity can be in a community of practice. Just this morning I >> mentioned it to a friend – a culture where a first-timer has had >> reflections and stories from the most experienced (in the world), >> sometimes within a matter of hours. This is what impressed me >> from my start. >> >> Thomas >> >> >> >>> On 8. Sep 2024, at 20.57, Peggy Holman via OSList >>> <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >>> >>> *What does this list mean to you now?* >>> >> >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >> See the archives here: >> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: > https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > > OSList mailing list --everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email toeveryone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here:https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org Michael M Pannwitz Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany +49 30 7728000mmpannwitz@posteo.de See the Open Space World Map with 529 Open Space Workers living in 81 countries and active in 145 countries worldwide: www.openspaceworldmap.org