WOSonOS reports, should they be accessible to everyone or not?
Dear Michael, Dear Colleagues,
Dear Michael (Herman), thank you for all your work to keep the Open Space
World website alive and accessible. I have learned so much
from that site.
I have a question/issue that I did not think about before, are the
reports from WOSonOS`s are accessible
to everyone now? Should they be?
There have been a few requests to access the Reports of WOSonOS 2024 and I
hesitated to accept them.
According to my understanding, the reports should only be accessible to/by
those who have participated in the relevant OST.
Looking forward to hearing from you
Funda Oral
from Stuttgart, Germany where Data Protection is everywhere.
Hi Funda hi collegues
The proceedings from our gatherings are kept accessible on the open space world site.
Here is the link: https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/
Best regards to you all
Thomas
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Dear Michael, Dear Colleagues,
Dear Michael (Herman), thank you for all your work to keep the Open Space World website alive and accessible. I have learned so much
from that site.
I have a question/issue that I did not think about before, are the reports from WOSonOS`s are accessible
to everyone now? Should they be?
There have been a few requests to access the Reports of WOSonOS 2024 and I hesitated to accept them.
According to my understanding, the reports should only be accessible to/by those who have participated in the relevant OST.
Looking forward to hearing from you
Funda Oral
from Stuttgart, Germany where Data Protection is everywhere.
Hi Funda and others,
Your question about access to WOSonOS proceedings is a question of our modern times! For many years, we have taken for granted that these proceedings should be public. Given a key purpose of WOSonOS is to share learning, that still strikes me as important.
Ironically, I recently discovered some paper copies of early OSonOS proceedings and scanned them for Michael to post. (They’re not up yet.) I removed the name and address information that were a common part of proceedings then.
So my bias is that WOSonOS proceedings be public as a vehicle for learning. I think it would be sad that some future learner, perhaps a graduate student studying the spread on self-organizing forms of human endeavor, would not have access to this rich treasure trove from pioneers. :-)
Your question does raise the thought that when opening the space, the host makes it explicit that the notes are public. If someone doesn’t want their notes to be in the proceedings, they can simply not provide them. I say something about how notes will be used when working with clients. It makes sense to do that at WOSonOS.
What do others think?
Peggy
On Dec 19, 2025, at 12:44 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:
Hi Funda hi collegues
The proceedings from our gatherings are kept accessible on the open space world site.
Here is the link: https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/
Best regards to you all
Thomas
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Dear Michael, Dear Colleagues,
Dear Michael (Herman), thank you for all your work to keep the Open Space World website alive and accessible. I have learned so much
from that site.
I have a question/issue that I did not think about before, are the reports from WOSonOS`s are accessible
to everyone now? Should they be?
There have been a few requests to access the Reports of WOSonOS 2024 and I hesitated to accept them.
According to my understanding, the reports should only be accessible to/by those who have participated in the relevant OST.
Looking forward to hearing from you
Funda Oral
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Hi Everyone,
Should we have an open space theme with this as the topic 😊
I’m new to the group, living in the Jack London Square neighborhood of Oakland and an OST practitioner/facilitator.
I look forward to seeing you all at the upcoming summit in January and finding community to connect with after doing this work pretty solo for a decade now.
Always learning,
Tres Jiménez
www.tresjimenez.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tresjimenez/
From: Peggy Holman via OSList everyone@oslist.org
Date: Friday, December 19, 2025 at 8:03 AM
To: Open Space Listserv everyone@oslist.org
Subject: [OSList] Re: WOSonOS reports, should they be accessible to everyone or not?
Hi Funda and others,
Your question about access to WOSonOS proceedings is a question of our modern times! For many years, we have taken for granted that these proceedings should be public. Given a key purpose of WOSonOS is to share learning, that still strikes me as important.
Ironically, I recently discovered some paper copies of early OSonOS proceedings and scanned them for Michael to post. (They’re not up yet.) I removed the name and address information that were a common part of proceedings then.
So my bias is that WOSonOS proceedings be public as a vehicle for learning. I think it would be sad that some future learner, perhaps a graduate student studying the spread on self-organizing forms of human endeavor, would not have access to this rich treasure trove from pioneers. :-)
Your question does raise the thought that when opening the space, the host makes it explicit that the notes are public. If someone doesn’t want their notes to be in the proceedings, they can simply not provide them. I say something about how notes will be used when working with clients. It makes sense to do that at WOSonOS.
What do others think?
Peggy
On Dec 19, 2025, at 12:44 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:
Hi Funda hi collegues
The proceedings from our gatherings are kept accessible on the open space world site.
Here is the link: https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/
Best regards to you all
Thomas
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Dear Michael, Dear Colleagues,
Dear Michael (Herman), thank you for all your work to keep the Open Space World website alive and accessible. I have learned so much
from that site.
I have a question/issue that I did not think about before, are the reports from WOSonOS`s are accessible
to everyone now? Should they be?
There have been a few requests to access the Reports of WOSonOS 2024 and I hesitated to accept them.
According to my understanding, the reports should only be accessible to/by those who have participated in the relevant OST.
Looking forward to hearing from you
Funda Oral
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Hello all,
I have found that people really open up during an Open Space, bravely and
often intimately sharing their experiences and views on personal and public
matters.
I understand the concern of sharing beyond the group attending. Perhaps in
making these more publicly available, a note at the beginning of the
proceedings that invites who attended to edit, delete or modify what they
would not have wanted shared more publicly. Using a Google Doc, making it a
living document. In the spirit of the Law of Two Feet…
Suzanne
On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 5:38 AM Tres Jiménez via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Should we have an open space theme with this as the topic 😊
I’m new to the group, living in the Jack London Square neighborhood of
Oakland and an OST practitioner/facilitator.
I look forward to seeing you all at the upcoming summit in January and
finding community to connect with after doing this work pretty solo for a
decade now.
Always learning,
Tres Jiménez
www.tresjimenez.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tresjimenez/
*From: *Peggy Holman via OSList everyone@oslist.org
*Date: *Friday, December 19, 2025 at 8:03 AM
*To: *Open Space Listserv everyone@oslist.org
*Subject: *[OSList] Re: WOSonOS reports, should they be accessible to
everyone or not?
Hi Funda and others,
Your question about access to WOSonOS proceedings is a question of our
modern times! For many years, we have taken for granted that these
proceedings should be public. Given a key purpose of WOSonOS is to share
learning, that still strikes me as important.
Ironically, I recently discovered some paper copies of early OSonOS
proceedings and scanned them for Michael to post. (They’re not up yet.) I
removed the name and address information that were a common part of
proceedings then.
So my bias is that WOSonOS proceedings be public as a vehicle for
learning. I think it would be sad that some future learner, perhaps a
graduate student studying the spread on self-organizing forms of human
endeavor, would not have access to this rich treasure trove from pioneers.
:-)
Your question does raise the thought that when opening the space, the host
makes it explicit that the notes are public. If someone doesn’t want their
notes to be in the proceedings, they can simply not provide them. I say
something about how notes will be used when working with clients. It makes
sense to do that at WOSonOS.
What do others think?
Peggy
On Dec 19, 2025, at 12:44 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Hi Funda hi collegues
The proceedings from our gatherings are kept accessible on the open space
world site.
Here is the link: https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/
Best regards to you all
Thomas
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Dear Michael, Dear Colleagues,
Dear Michael (Herman), thank you for all your work to keep the Open Space
World website alive and accessible. I have learned so much
from that site.
I have a question/issue that I did not think about before, are the
reports from WOSonOS`s are accessible
to everyone now? Should they be?
There have been a few requests to access the Reports of WOSonOS 2024 and I
hesitated to accept them.
According to my understanding, the reports should only be accessible to/by
those who have participated in the relevant OST.
Looking forward to hearing from you
Funda Oral
from Stuttgart, Germany where Data Protection is everywhere.
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To your last question, Peggy... I think opting out is not quite as simple
as you suggest. While individual conveners can always choose to withhold
their notes, or just not capture any, this might be a breach of the general
agreement that conveners are responsible for capturing and delivering the
notes into the proceedings doc. But those notes, if captured, are the
shared product of all who attended the session. They might want their
ideas in the record. So who gets to say? And what about the list of
topics... would you edit the list of topics to make it look like a session
never happened? I would surely not include someone's contact info if asked
to omit, but what if they attend and don't want to be listed as a
participant? Strike them from the list? Replace them with "Anonymous" in
the list? Every way we play these things it raises questions.
I think the contact info is easy, the participant list is not too
important, but editing/omitting notes gets trickier. Better to start as
you say, making clear that all notes will be public, and
encouraging/reminding that all notes will be public and all conveners are
responsible for capturing and contributing their notes... SO... notes
should be crafted in a way that they can be shared. It's not very likely
that a participant wants to be unnamed or a session wants to never have
happened... more likely that there is one or a few things that might show
up in the notes that someone would want omitted.
So rather than giving special rights to a few people (conveners) to omit
whole sessions, I've actively encouraged the production of session reports
that can be completely public. I'm sure I've had people come to me later
in the event and say... "I need to tweak this or that paragraph." But I'm
also pretty sure I've never removed a name or topic from the list of all
people and sessions, like they were never there or never happened.
I think this is another case of... we can't take care of people, we can't
protect them, and we only get ourselves tangled in the messiness if we
try... BUT WE CAN remind them that they are responsible... they are in
public and can choose for themselves what to share in the first place. In
most cases, what "public" means in terms of the notes will have been
modeled by where the invitation went in the first place.
m
--
Michael Herman
Michael Herman Associates
312-280-7838 (mobile)
MichaelHerman.com
OpenSpaceWorld.org
On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 9:05 AM Peggy Holman via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:
Hi Funda and others,
Your question about access to WOSonOS proceedings is a question of our
modern times! For many years, we have taken for granted that these
proceedings should be public. Given a key purpose of WOSonOS is to share
learning, that still strikes me as important.
Ironically, I recently discovered some paper copies of early OSonOS
proceedings and scanned them for Michael to post. (They’re not up yet.) I
removed the name and address information that were a common part of
proceedings then.
So my bias is that WOSonOS proceedings be public as a vehicle for
learning. I think it would be sad that some future learner, perhaps a
graduate student studying the spread on self-organizing forms of human
endeavor, would not have access to this rich treasure trove from pioneers.
:-)
Your question does raise the thought that when opening the space, the host
makes it explicit that the notes are public. If someone doesn’t want their
notes to be in the proceedings, they can simply not provide them. I say
something about how notes will be used when working with clients. It makes
sense to do that at WOSonOS.
What do others think?
Peggy
On Dec 19, 2025, at 12:44 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Hi Funda hi collegues
The proceedings from our gatherings are kept accessible on the open space
world site.
Here is the link: https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/
Best regards to you all
Thomas
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Dear Michael, Dear Colleagues,
Dear Michael (Herman), thank you for all your work to keep the Open Space
World website alive and accessible. I have learned so much
from that site.
I have a question/issue that I did not think about before, are the
reports from WOSonOS`s are accessible
to everyone now? Should they be?
There have been a few requests to access the Reports of WOSonOS 2024 and I
hesitated to accept them.
According to my understanding, the reports should only be accessible to/by
those who have participated in the relevant OST.
Looking forward to hearing from you
Funda Oral
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This sounds like working too hard, Suzanne. Give the responsibility
directly, right up front, and then do the work by the book. Publish and be
done.
--
Michael Herman
Michael Herman Associates
312-280-7838 (mobile)
MichaelHerman.com
OpenSpaceWorld.org
On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 10:44 AM Suzanne Daigle via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Hello all,
I have found that people really open up during an Open Space, bravely and
often intimately sharing their experiences and views on personal and public
matters.
I understand the concern of sharing beyond the group attending. Perhaps in
making these more publicly available, a note at the beginning of the
proceedings that invites who attended to edit, delete or modify what they
would not have wanted shared more publicly. Using a Google Doc, making it a
living document. In the spirit of the Law of Two Feet…
Suzanne
On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 5:38 AM Tres Jiménez via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Should we have an open space theme with this as the topic 😊
I’m new to the group, living in the Jack London Square neighborhood of
Oakland and an OST practitioner/facilitator.
I look forward to seeing you all at the upcoming summit in January and
finding community to connect with after doing this work pretty solo for a
decade now.
Always learning,
Tres Jiménez
www.tresjimenez.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tresjimenez/
*From: *Peggy Holman via OSList everyone@oslist.org
*Date: *Friday, December 19, 2025 at 8:03 AM
*To: *Open Space Listserv everyone@oslist.org
*Subject: *[OSList] Re: WOSonOS reports, should they be accessible to
everyone or not?
Hi Funda and others,
Your question about access to WOSonOS proceedings is a question of our
modern times! For many years, we have taken for granted that these
proceedings should be public. Given a key purpose of WOSonOS is to share
learning, that still strikes me as important.
Ironically, I recently discovered some paper copies of early OSonOS
proceedings and scanned them for Michael to post. (They’re not up yet.) I
removed the name and address information that were a common part of
proceedings then.
So my bias is that WOSonOS proceedings be public as a vehicle for
learning. I think it would be sad that some future learner, perhaps a
graduate student studying the spread on self-organizing forms of human
endeavor, would not have access to this rich treasure trove from pioneers.
:-)
Your question does raise the thought that when opening the space, the
host makes it explicit that the notes are public. If someone doesn’t want
their notes to be in the proceedings, they can simply not provide them. I
say something about how notes will be used when working with clients. It
makes sense to do that at WOSonOS.
What do others think?
Peggy
On Dec 19, 2025, at 12:44 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Hi Funda hi collegues
The proceedings from our gatherings are kept accessible on the open space
world site.
Here is the link: https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/
Best regards to you all
Thomas
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Dear Michael, Dear Colleagues,
Dear Michael (Herman), thank you for all your work to keep the Open Space
World website alive and accessible. I have learned so much
from that site.
I have a question/issue that I did not think about before, are the
reports from WOSonOS`s are accessible
to everyone now? Should they be?
There have been a few requests to access the Reports of WOSonOS 2024 and
I hesitated to accept them.
According to my understanding, the reports should only be accessible
to/by those who have participated in the relevant OST.
Looking forward to hearing from you
Funda Oral
from Stuttgart, Germany where Data Protection is everywhere.
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Hi Tres,
Welcome to the list! It is always great to see new-to-the-list people chime in.
Look forward to seeing you in January.
Warmly,
Peggy
On Dec 19, 2025, at 8:37 AM, Tres Jiménez tres@tresjimenez.com wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Should we have an open space theme with this as the topic 😊
I’m new to the group, living in the Jack London Square neighborhood of Oakland and an OST practitioner/facilitator.
I look forward to seeing you all at the upcoming summit in January and finding community to connect with after doing this work pretty solo for a decade now.
Always learning,
Tres Jiménez
www.tresjimenez.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tresjimenez/
From: Peggy Holman via OSList everyone@oslist.org
Date: Friday, December 19, 2025 at 8:03 AM
To: Open Space Listserv everyone@oslist.org
Subject: [OSList] Re: WOSonOS reports, should they be accessible to everyone or not?
Hi Funda and others,
Your question about access to WOSonOS proceedings is a question of our modern times! For many years, we have taken for granted that these proceedings should be public. Given a key purpose of WOSonOS is to share learning, that still strikes me as important.
Ironically, I recently discovered some paper copies of early OSonOS proceedings and scanned them for Michael to post. (They’re not up yet.) I removed the name and address information that were a common part of proceedings then.
So my bias is that WOSonOS proceedings be public as a vehicle for learning. I think it would be sad that some future learner, perhaps a graduate student studying the spread on self-organizing forms of human endeavor, would not have access to this rich treasure trove from pioneers. :-)
Your question does raise the thought that when opening the space, the host makes it explicit that the notes are public. If someone doesn’t want their notes to be in the proceedings, they can simply not provide them. I say something about how notes will be used when working with clients. It makes sense to do that at WOSonOS.
What do others think?
Peggy
On Dec 19, 2025, at 12:44 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:
Hi Funda hi collegues
The proceedings from our gatherings are kept accessible on the open space world site.
Here is the link: https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/
Best regards to you all
Thomas
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Dear Michael, Dear Colleagues,
Dear Michael (Herman), thank you for all your work to keep the Open Space World website alive and accessible. I have learned so much
from that site.
I have a question/issue that I did not think about before, are the reports from WOSonOS`s are accessible
to everyone now? Should they be?
There have been a few requests to access the Reports of WOSonOS 2024 and I hesitated to accept them.
According to my understanding, the reports should only be accessible to/by those who have participated in the relevant OST.
Looking forward to hearing from you
Funda Oral
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it was a long time ago but I THINK I recall being clear with folks in 2001 that the proceedings for the OSonOS would be public. I think this is always an important consideration for any event: how the harvests are handled, especially where anonymity might be important. It is always my practice that folks can review the notes before they are put in final form, allowing for information to be corrected or added to or names removed.
I would advise everyone convening an OSonOS to make this clear up front and do whatever you can to enable sharing of the proceedings in ways that respect and protect people’s safety. OSonOS specifically is our community’s global convening and it’s nice to invite participants to be deliberating and convening with the global community in mind so we can all benefit from what is discussed there. The conversations that happen there matter to all of us. They aren’t just “in the room.” It’s a special case.
But, much easier to be clear up front than chasing a consensus later.
Chris.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 19, 2025, at 10:16 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Hi Tres,
Welcome to the list! It is always great to see new-to-the-list people chime in.
Look forward to seeing you in January.
Warmly,
Peggy
On Dec 19, 2025, at 8:37 AM, Tres Jiménez <tres@tresjimenez.com> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Should we have an open space theme with this as the topic 😊
I’m new to the group, living in the Jack London Square neighborhood of Oakland and an OST practitioner/facilitator.
I look forward to seeing you all at the upcoming summit in January and finding community to connect with after doing this work pretty solo for a decade now.
Always learning,
Tres Jiménez
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tresjimenez/
From: Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org>
Date: Friday, December 19, 2025 at 8:03 AM
To: Open Space Listserv <everyone@oslist.org>
Subject: [OSList] Re: WOSonOS reports, should they be accessible to everyone or not?Hi Funda and others,
Your question about access to WOSonOS proceedings is a question of our modern times! For many years, we have taken for granted that these proceedings should be public. Given a key purpose of WOSonOS is to share learning, that still strikes me as important.
Ironically, I recently discovered some paper copies of early OSonOS proceedings and scanned them for Michael to post. (They’re not up yet.) I removed the name and address information that were a common part of proceedings then.
So my bias is that WOSonOS proceedings be public as a vehicle for learning. I think it would be sad that some future learner, perhaps a graduate student studying the spread on self-organizing forms of human endeavor, would not have access to this rich treasure trove from pioneers. :-)
Your question does raise the thought that when opening the space, the host makes it explicit that the notes are public. If someone doesn’t want their notes to be in the proceedings, they can simply not provide them. I say something about how notes will be used when working with clients. It makes sense to do that at WOSonOS.
What do others think?
Peggy
On Dec 19, 2025, at 12:44 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Hi Funda hi collegues
The proceedings from our gatherings are kept accessible on the open space world site.
Here is the link: https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/
Best regards to you all
Thomas
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Ämne: [OSList] WOSonOS reports, should they be accessible to everyone or not?Dear Michael, Dear Colleagues,
Dear Michael (Herman), thank you for all your work to keep the Open Space World website alive and accessible. I have learned so much
from that site.
I have a question/issue that I did not think about before, are the reports from WOSonOS`s are accessible
to everyone now? Should they be?
There have been a few requests to access the Reports of WOSonOS 2024 and I hesitated to accept them.
According to my understanding, the reports should only be accessible to/by those who have participated in the relevant OST.
Looking forward to hearing from you
Funda Oral
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Loving this conversation. I was co-host for the 2017 WOSonOS here in
Tainan. We had an amazing event, yet despite (or because of?) many ways to
document on offer, and words about the intention of sharable proceedings,
that's not what happened.
I take Michael's observations to heart and feel renewed clarity reading
them:
"I've actively encouraged the production of session reports that can be
completely public. ... I think this is another case of... we can't take
care of people, we can't protect them, and we only get ourselves tangled in
the messiness if we try... BUT WE CAN remind them that they are
responsible... they are in public and can choose for themselves what to
share in the first place. In most cases, what "public" means in terms of
the notes will have been modeled by where the invitation went in the first
place."
I'd say I got tangled in messiness, then again everything I hear from
people who were there is about the follow-on value of having been a part of
it all.
I shrug and continue the effort to invite better and invite better. It
truly is a lifelong process.
Jane
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On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 1:48 AM Michael Herman via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
This sounds like working too hard, Suzanne. Give the responsibility
directly, right up front, and then do the work by the book. Publish and be
done.
--
Michael Herman
Michael Herman Associates
312-280-7838 (mobile)
MichaelHerman.com
OpenSpaceWorld.org
On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 10:44 AM Suzanne Daigle via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Hello all,
I have found that people really open up during an Open Space, bravely and
often intimately sharing their experiences and views on personal and public
matters.
I understand the concern of sharing beyond the group attending. Perhaps
in making these more publicly available, a note at the beginning of the
proceedings that invites who attended to edit, delete or modify what they
would not have wanted shared more publicly. Using a Google Doc, making it a
living document. In the spirit of the Law of Two Feet…
Suzanne
On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 5:38 AM Tres Jiménez via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Should we have an open space theme with this as the topic 😊
I’m new to the group, living in the Jack London Square neighborhood of
Oakland and an OST practitioner/facilitator.
I look forward to seeing you all at the upcoming summit in January and
finding community to connect with after doing this work pretty solo for a
decade now.
Always learning,
Tres Jiménez
www.tresjimenez.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tresjimenez/
*From: *Peggy Holman via OSList everyone@oslist.org
*Date: *Friday, December 19, 2025 at 8:03 AM
*To: *Open Space Listserv everyone@oslist.org
*Subject: *[OSList] Re: WOSonOS reports, should they be accessible to
everyone or not?
Hi Funda and others,
Your question about access to WOSonOS proceedings is a question of our
modern times! For many years, we have taken for granted that these
proceedings should be public. Given a key purpose of WOSonOS is to share
learning, that still strikes me as important.
Ironically, I recently discovered some paper copies of early OSonOS
proceedings and scanned them for Michael to post. (They’re not up yet.) I
removed the name and address information that were a common part of
proceedings then.
So my bias is that WOSonOS proceedings be public as a vehicle for
learning. I think it would be sad that some future learner, perhaps a
graduate student studying the spread on self-organizing forms of human
endeavor, would not have access to this rich treasure trove from pioneers.
:-)
Your question does raise the thought that when opening the space, the
host makes it explicit that the notes are public. If someone doesn’t want
their notes to be in the proceedings, they can simply not provide them. I
say something about how notes will be used when working with clients. It
makes sense to do that at WOSonOS.
What do others think?
Peggy
On Dec 19, 2025, at 12:44 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Hi Funda hi collegues
The proceedings from our gatherings are kept accessible on the open
space world site.
Here is the link: https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/
Best regards to you all
Thomas
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Från: Funda Oral via OSList everyone@oslist.org
Skickat: fredag, december 19, 2025 09:12
Till: OS LIST 2022 everyone@oslist.org
Ämne: [OSList] WOSonOS reports, should they be accessible to everyone
or not?
Dear Michael, Dear Colleagues,
Dear Michael (Herman), thank you for all your work to keep the Open
Space World website alive and accessible. I have learned so much
from that site.
I have a question/issue that I did not think about before, are the
reports from WOSonOS`s are accessible
to everyone now? Should they be?
There have been a few requests to access the Reports of WOSonOS 2024 and
I hesitated to accept them.
According to my understanding, the reports should only be accessible
to/by those who have participated in the relevant OST.
Looking forward to hearing from you
Funda Oral
from Stuttgart, Germany where Data Protection is everywhere.
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