Jane

Dear Thomas, Peggy, Tres, Suzanne, Michael, Chris and Jane for helping me to think further about the issue. In an Open Space Event where I facilitate (*Facilitator, **Consultant, Co-Organizer, Trainer for Self Organization)* for a Host/Client, it's very important from myside to make it clear that the *Proceedings* will be shared at least with all the participants and the host. If the client needs a further* Report* from me I can work after the event to make a better sense of the event trying to answer the *Main Invitation Question* (the reason for opening the space). This is in fact* the Host *who invites the participants. I agree with you that it's the *Convener's *responsibility to write the proceedings for the issue he/she finds important. However, in my experience, in cases where people are not familiar with the method, it takes some time to understand the role of convener, the meaning of the* Bulletin Board *etc. In this case, it's very important that the *Client/Host *agrees that the proceedings from the subgroups depend on the conveners, not from myself. It's of course very important to encourage and share the proceedings to everyone who participates, butterflies, bumblebees and the host. I am not responsible as the facilitator of the information we get from the sub circles/sub groups. I can however prepare a *Final Report (as consultant) *(with or without proceedings) to deliver information to the client if required. As I mentioned earlier in this group, my interest and belief in this method stems from the atmosphere of trust, equality and openness it brings to communities and individuals (as Suzanne also mentioned) , at this point, as a facilitator and in my agreement with the host, the top priority for me is the safety of the participants. Due to many “local, existing conditions”, I may not be able to implement the method exactly as described by the book. I can say, “Whatever happens....” The only exception for me is the *Safety* of the participants and myself. I do not wish to share information irresponsibly in politically risky environments. In this respect in my role as organizer and facilitator, I will reconsider up to which level WOSonOS 2024 report can be shared publicly. This has already been shared with the participants of course. If for WOSONOSs *Global Open Space Community *can be considered as the Host, I am not sure how much the responsibility of the local host/organizer can be globally shared. I have always been grateful to feel the support of the *Global Community *and *Harrison Owen* in this group. Thanks very much for this wonderful togetherness and exchange of opinions. I would like to take this opportunity to share my best wishes for Christmas and the New Year. Funda Le sam. 20 déc. 2025 à 08:22, Jane Lewis via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> a écrit : > Loving this conversation. I was co-host for the 2017 WOSonOS here in > Tainan. We had an amazing event, yet despite (or because of?) many ways to > document on offer, and words about the intention of sharable proceedings, > that's not what happened. > > I take Michael's observations to heart and feel renewed clarity reading > them: > > "I've actively encouraged the production of session reports that can be > completely public. ... I think this is another case of... we can't take > care of people, we can't protect them, and we only get ourselves tangled in > the messiness if we try... BUT WE CAN remind them that they are > responsible... they are in public and can choose for themselves what to > share in the first place. In most cases, what "public" means in terms of > the notes will have been modeled by where the invitation went in the first > place." > > I'd say I got tangled in messiness, then again everything I hear from > people who were there is about the follow-on value of having been a part of > it all. > I shrug and continue the effort to invite better and invite better. It > truly is a lifelong process. > > Jane > > Jane E. Lewis 柳 芝 蓮 > +886 (0)932 259 844 > JaneELewis@gmail.com > > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 1:48 AM Michael Herman via OSList < > everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > >> This sounds like working too hard, Suzanne. Give the responsibility >> directly, right up front, and then do the work by the book. Publish and be >> done. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Michael Herman >> Michael Herman Associates >> 312-280-7838 (mobile) >> >> MichaelHerman.com >> OpenSpaceWorld.org >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 10:44 AM Suzanne Daigle via OSList < >> everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> I have found that people really open up during an Open Space, bravely >>> and often intimately sharing their experiences and views on personal and >>> public matters. >>> >>> I understand the concern of sharing beyond the group attending. Perhaps >>> in making these more publicly available, a note at the beginning of the >>> proceedings that invites who attended to edit, delete or modify what they >>> would not have wanted shared more publicly. Using a Google Doc, making it a >>> living document. In the spirit of the Law of Two Feet… >>> Suzanne >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 5:38 AM Tres Jiménez via OSList < >>> everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Everyone, >>>> >>>> Should we have an open space theme with this as the topic 😊 >>>> >>>> I’m new to the group, living in the Jack London Square neighborhood of >>>> Oakland and an OST practitioner/facilitator. >>>> I look forward to seeing you all at the upcoming summit in January and >>>> finding community to connect with after doing this work pretty solo for a >>>> decade now. >>>> >>>> Always learning, >>>> Tres Jiménez >>>> www.tresjimenez.com >>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/tresjimenez/ >>>> >>>> *From: *Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> >>>> *Date: *Friday, December 19, 2025 at 8:03 AM >>>> *To: *Open Space Listserv <everyone@oslist.org> >>>> *Subject: *[OSList] Re: WOSonOS reports, should they be accessible to >>>> everyone or not? >>>> >>>> Hi Funda and others, >>>> >>>> Your question about access to WOSonOS proceedings is a question of our >>>> modern times! For many years, we have taken for granted that these >>>> proceedings should be public. Given a key purpose of WOSonOS is to share >>>> learning, that still strikes me as important. >>>> >>>> Ironically, I recently discovered some paper copies of early OSonOS >>>> proceedings and scanned them for Michael to post. (They’re not up yet.) I >>>> removed the name and address information that were a common part of >>>> proceedings then. >>>> >>>> So my bias is that WOSonOS proceedings be public as a vehicle for >>>> learning. I think it would be sad that some future learner, perhaps a >>>> graduate student studying the spread on self-organizing forms of human >>>> endeavor, would not have access to this rich treasure trove from pioneers. >>>> :-) >>>> >>>> Your question does raise the thought that when opening the space, the >>>> host makes it explicit that the notes are public. If someone doesn’t want >>>> their notes to be in the proceedings, they can simply not provide them. I >>>> say something about how notes will be used when working with clients. It >>>> makes sense to do that at WOSonOS. >>>> >>>> What do others think? >>>> >>>> Peggy >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 19, 2025, at 12:44 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList < >>>> everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Funda hi collegues >>>> The proceedings from our gatherings are kept accessible on the open >>>> space world site. >>>> Here is the link: https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/ >>>> Best regards to you all >>>> Thomas >>>> >>>> >>>> Skickat från Outlook för iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *Från:* Funda Oral via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> >>>> *Skickat:* fredag, december 19, 2025 09:12 >>>> *Till:* OS LIST 2022 <everyone@oslist.org> >>>> *Ämne:* [OSList] WOSonOS reports, should they be accessible to >>>> everyone or not? >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Michael, Dear Colleagues, >>>> >>>> Dear Michael (Herman), thank you for all your work to keep the Open >>>> Space World website alive and accessible. I have learned so much >>>> from that site. >>>> >>>> I have a question/issue that I did not think about before, are the >>>> reports from WOSonOS`s are accessible >>>> to everyone now? Should they be? >>>> >>>> There have been a few requests to access the Reports of WOSonOS 2024 >>>> and I hesitated to accept them. >>>> >>>> According to my understanding, the reports should only be accessible >>>> to/by those who have participated in the relevant OST. >>>> >>>> Looking forward to hearing from you >>>> Funda Oral >>>> >>>> from Stuttgart, Germany where Data Protection is everywhere. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >>>> See the archives here: >>>> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >>>> >>>> >>>> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >>>> See the archives here: >>>> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >>> >>> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >>> See the archives here: >>> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >> >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >> See the archives here: >> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org

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Filled with love for this community as I read Funda’s caring and thoughtful reply. It speaks so much to this gift of holding space. I feel Harrison’s presence and that of so many who responded and others also who are there simply reading. I write now from New Zealand with my partner’s family. As always when I am in a foreign country, I feel the gift of Open Space in my life and this precious community of ours. Suzanne On Sun, Dec 21, 2025 at 11:59 PM Funda Oral via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > Dear Thomas, Peggy, Tres, Suzanne, Michael, Chris and Jane for helping me > to think further about > the issue. > > In an Open Space Event where I facilitate (*Facilitator, **Consultant, > Co-Organizer, Trainer for Self Organization)* for a Host/Client, it's > very important from myside to make it clear that the *Proceedings* will > be shared at least with all the participants and the host. If the client > needs a further* Report* from me I can work after the event to make a > better sense of the event trying to answer the *Main Invitation Question* > (the reason for opening the space). > > This is in fact* the Host *who invites the participants. I agree with you > that it's the *Convener's *responsibility to write the proceedings for > the issue he/she finds important. However, in my experience, in cases where > people are not familiar with the method, it takes some time to understand > the role of convener, the meaning of the* Bulletin Board *etc. In this > case, it's very important that the *Client/Host *agrees that the > proceedings from the subgroups depend on the conveners, not from > myself. It's of course very important to encourage and share the > proceedings to everyone who participates, butterflies, bumblebees and the > host. I am not responsible as the facilitator of the information > we get from the sub circles/sub groups. > > I can however prepare a *Final Report (as consultant) *(with or without > proceedings) to deliver information to the client if required. > > As I mentioned earlier in this group, my interest and belief in this > method stems from the atmosphere of trust, equality and openness it brings > to communities and individuals (as Suzanne also mentioned) , at this point, > as a facilitator and in my agreement with the host, the top priority for me > is the safety of the participants. Due to many “local, existing > conditions”, I may not be able to implement the method exactly as described > by the book. I can say, “Whatever happens....” The only exception for me is > the *Safety* of the participants and myself. I do not wish to share > information irresponsibly in politically risky environments. > > In this respect in my role as organizer and facilitator, I will reconsider > up to which level WOSonOS 2024 report can be shared publicly. This has > already been shared with the participants of course. > > If for WOSONOSs *Global Open Space Community *can be considered as the > Host, I am not sure how much the responsibility of the local host/organizer > can be globally shared. > > I have always been grateful to feel the support of the *Global Community *and > *Harrison Owen* in this group. > > Thanks very much for this wonderful togetherness and exchange of opinions. > > I would like to take this opportunity to share my best wishes for > Christmas and the New Year. > > Funda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le sam. 20 déc. 2025 à 08:22, Jane Lewis via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > a écrit : > >> Loving this conversation. I was co-host for the 2017 WOSonOS here in >> Tainan. We had an amazing event, yet despite (or because of?) many ways to >> document on offer, and words about the intention of sharable proceedings, >> that's not what happened. >> >> I take Michael's observations to heart and feel renewed clarity reading >> them: >> >> "I've actively encouraged the production of session reports that can be >> completely public. ... I think this is another case of... we can't take >> care of people, we can't protect them, and we only get ourselves tangled in >> the messiness if we try... BUT WE CAN remind them that they are >> responsible... they are in public and can choose for themselves what to >> share in the first place. In most cases, what "public" means in terms of >> the notes will have been modeled by where the invitation went in the first >> place." >> >> I'd say I got tangled in messiness, then again everything I hear from >> people who were there is about the follow-on value of having been a part of >> it all. >> I shrug and continue the effort to invite better and invite better. It >> truly is a lifelong process. >> >> Jane >> >> Jane E. Lewis 柳 芝 蓮 >> +886 (0)932 259 844 >> JaneELewis@gmail.com >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 1:48 AM Michael Herman via OSList < >> everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >> >>> This sounds like working too hard, Suzanne. Give the responsibility >>> directly, right up front, and then do the work by the book. Publish and be >>> done. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Michael Herman >>> Michael Herman Associates >>> 312-280-7838 (mobile) >>> >>> MichaelHerman.com >>> OpenSpaceWorld.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 10:44 AM Suzanne Daigle via OSList < >>> everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> I have found that people really open up during an Open Space, bravely >>>> and often intimately sharing their experiences and views on personal and >>>> public matters. >>>> >>>> I understand the concern of sharing beyond the group attending. Perhaps >>>> in making these more publicly available, a note at the beginning of the >>>> proceedings that invites who attended to edit, delete or modify what they >>>> would not have wanted shared more publicly. Using a Google Doc, making it a >>>> living document. In the spirit of the Law of Two Feet… >>>> Suzanne >>>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 5:38 AM Tres Jiménez via OSList < >>>> everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>> >>>>> Should we have an open space theme with this as the topic 😊 >>>>> >>>>> I’m new to the group, living in the Jack London Square neighborhood >>>>> of Oakland and an OST practitioner/facilitator. >>>>> I look forward to seeing you all at the upcoming summit in January and >>>>> finding community to connect with after doing this work pretty solo for a >>>>> decade now. >>>>> >>>>> Always learning, >>>>> Tres Jiménez >>>>> www.tresjimenez.com >>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/tresjimenez/ >>>>> >>>>> *From: *Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> >>>>> *Date: *Friday, December 19, 2025 at 8:03 AM >>>>> *To: *Open Space Listserv <everyone@oslist.org> >>>>> *Subject: *[OSList] Re: WOSonOS reports, should they be accessible to >>>>> everyone or not? >>>>> >>>>> Hi Funda and others, >>>>> >>>>> Your question about access to WOSonOS proceedings is a question of our >>>>> modern times! For many years, we have taken for granted that these >>>>> proceedings should be public. Given a key purpose of WOSonOS is to share >>>>> learning, that still strikes me as important. >>>>> >>>>> Ironically, I recently discovered some paper copies of early OSonOS >>>>> proceedings and scanned them for Michael to post. (They’re not up yet.) I >>>>> removed the name and address information that were a common part of >>>>> proceedings then. >>>>> >>>>> So my bias is that WOSonOS proceedings be public as a vehicle for >>>>> learning. I think it would be sad that some future learner, perhaps a >>>>> graduate student studying the spread on self-organizing forms of human >>>>> endeavor, would not have access to this rich treasure trove from pioneers. >>>>> :-) >>>>> >>>>> Your question does raise the thought that when opening the space, the >>>>> host makes it explicit that the notes are public. If someone doesn’t want >>>>> their notes to be in the proceedings, they can simply not provide them. I >>>>> say something about how notes will be used when working with clients. It >>>>> makes sense to do that at WOSonOS. >>>>> >>>>> What do others think? >>>>> >>>>> Peggy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 19, 2025, at 12:44 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList < >>>>> everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Funda hi collegues >>>>> The proceedings from our gatherings are kept accessible on the open >>>>> space world site. >>>>> Here is the link: https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/ >>>>> Best regards to you all >>>>> Thomas >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Skickat från Outlook för iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *Från:* Funda Oral via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> >>>>> *Skickat:* fredag, december 19, 2025 09:12 >>>>> *Till:* OS LIST 2022 <everyone@oslist.org> >>>>> *Ämne:* [OSList] WOSonOS reports, should they be accessible to >>>>> everyone or not? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Michael, Dear Colleagues, >>>>> >>>>> Dear Michael (Herman), thank you for all your work to keep the Open >>>>> Space World website alive and accessible. I have learned so much >>>>> from that site. >>>>> >>>>> I have a question/issue that I did not think about before, are the >>>>> reports from WOSonOS`s are accessible >>>>> to everyone now? Should they be? >>>>> >>>>> There have been a few requests to access the Reports of WOSonOS 2024 >>>>> and I hesitated to accept them. >>>>> >>>>> According to my understanding, the reports should only be accessible >>>>> to/by those who have participated in the relevant OST. >>>>> >>>>> Looking forward to hearing from you >>>>> Funda Oral >>>>> >>>>> from Stuttgart, Germany where Data Protection is everywhere. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >>>>> See the archives here: >>>>> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >>>>> See the archives here: >>>>> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >>>> >>>> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >>>> See the archives here: >>>> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >>> >>> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >>> See the archives here: >>> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >> >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >> See the archives here: >> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org

just hopped on end of thread.  Great discussion. Thnx 2 ALL.FYI Note on publish of proceedings When w/FIC board (self organized for the ICs) we had recorders '@back of rm' who entered proceedings for participants 'look-over' before the nxt mtg (printers for hrd copy to every/any one interested in review). A synopsis was ready (@ end of proceedings) that was much less detailed (ie contained 'decisions', people, places, time lines, nxt mtgs, contact info, any #1). 'Energizers' [folks who check-in w/follow-up wrk teams] & assignment group and their #2). contact w/that team).   @ the 2nd point (Synopsis, final print-out) some one may want something didactic. They might read it in the 1st instance of 'print out’ also (or head it off then).  Every 'Contract' is different. We seek to make definition of service/client decisions in early stages of project development. It can mean Everyone in mtgs should know that there is a choice point, the detail of how scribed towardthe publishing (name removal from comment?, entire omit? @ 1st or 2nd instance? all?).(FIC link)   ...   https://www.ic.org/?srsltid=AfmBOorYeO35t9ajsJPpkRP9s4UnpYmMpDdFo0XD10Ay_Jf7ZqZo89pfIn Community,- -Chad      OD / CD Consultancy    Amherst    MA    usa                                                                                            On Sunday, December 21, 2025, 09:09:29 AM EST, Suzanne Daigle via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: Filled with love for this community as I read Funda’s caring and thoughtful reply. It speaks so much to this gift of holding space. I feel Harrison’s presence and that of so many who responded and others also who are there simply reading. I write now from New Zealand with my partner’s family. As always when I am in a foreign country, I feel the gift of Open Space in my life and this precious community of ours. Suzanne On Sun, Dec 21, 2025 at 11:59 PM Funda Oral via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: Dear Thomas, Peggy, Tres, Suzanne, Michael, Chris and Jane for helping me to think further aboutthe issue.  In an Open Space Event where I facilitate (Facilitator, Consultant, Co-Organizer, Trainer for Self Organization) for a Host/Client, it's very important from myside to make it clear that the Proceedings will be shared at least with all the participants and the host. If the client needs a further Report from me I can work after the event to make a better sense of the event trying to answer the Main Invitation Question (the reason for opening the space). This is in fact the Host who invites the participants. I agree with you that it's the Convener's responsibility to write the proceedings for the issue he/she finds important. However, in my experience, in cases where people are not familiar with the method, it takes some time to understand the role of convener, the meaning of the Bulletin Board etc. In this case, it's very important that the Client/Host agrees that the proceedings from the subgroups depend on the conveners, not from myself.  It's of course very important to encourage and share the proceedings  to everyone who participates, butterflies, bumblebees and the host.  I am not responsible as the facilitator of the informationwe get from the sub circles/sub groups.  I can however prepare a Final Report (as consultant) (with or without proceedings) to deliver information to the client if required. As I mentioned earlier in this group, my interest and belief in this method stems from the atmosphere of trust, equality and openness it brings to communities and individuals (as Suzanne also mentioned) , at this point, as a facilitator and in my agreement with the host, the top priority for me is the safety of the participants. Due to many “local, existing conditions”, I may not be able to implement the method exactly as described by the book. I can say, “Whatever happens....” The only exception for me is the Safety of the participants and myself. I do not wish to share information irresponsibly in politically risky environments. In this respect in my role as organizer and facilitator, I will reconsider up to which level  WOSonOS 2024 report can be shared publicly. This has already been shared with the participants of course. If for WOSONOSs Global Open Space Community can be considered as the Host, I am not sure how much the responsibility of the local host/organizer can be globally shared. I have always been grateful to feel the support of the Global Community and Harrison Owen in this group. Thanks very much for this wonderful togetherness and exchange of opinions. I would like to take this opportunity to share my best wishes for Christmas and the New Year. Funda  Le sam. 20 déc. 2025 à 08:22, Jane Lewis via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> a écrit : Loving this conversation. I was co-host for the 2017 WOSonOS here in Tainan. We had an amazing event, yet despite (or because of?) many ways to document on offer, and words about the intention of sharable proceedings, that's not what happened.  I take Michael's observations to heart and feel renewed clarity reading them: "I've actively encouraged the production of session reports that can be completely public. ... I think this is another case of... we can't take care of people, we can't protect them, and we only get ourselves tangled in the messiness if we try... BUT WE CAN remind them that they are responsible... they are in public and can choose for themselves what to share in the first place.  In most cases, what "public" means in terms of the notes will have been modeled by where the invitation went in the first place."  I'd say I got tangled in messiness, then again everything I hear from people who were there is about the follow-on value of having been a part of it all. I shrug and continue the effort to invite better and invite better. It truly is a lifelong process.        Jane  Jane E. Lewis 柳 芝 蓮 +886 (0)932 259 844JaneELewis@gmail.com  On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 1:48 AM Michael Herman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: This sounds like working too hard, Suzanne.  Give the responsibility directly, right up front, and then do the work by the book.  Publish and be done.     -- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates312-280-7838 (mobile) MichaelHerman.com OpenSpaceWorld.org On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 10:44 AM Suzanne Daigle via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: Hello all,I have found that people really open up during an Open Space, bravely and often intimately sharing their experiences and views on personal and public matters. I understand the concern of sharing beyond the group attending. Perhaps in making these more publicly available, a note at the beginning of the proceedings that invites who attended to edit, delete or modify what they would not have wanted shared more publicly. Using a Google Doc, making it a living document. In the spirit of the Law of Two Feet… Suzanne  On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 5:38 AM Tres Jiménez via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: Hi Everyone, Should we have an open space theme with this as the topic 😊 I’m new to the group, living in the Jack London Square neighborhood of Oakland and an OST practitioner/facilitator.I look forward to seeing you all at the upcoming summit in January and finding community to connect with after doing this work pretty solo for a decade now. Always learning,Tres Jiménezwww.tresjimenez.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/tresjimenez/ From: Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> Date: Friday, December 19, 2025 at 8:03 AM To: Open Space Listserv <everyone@oslist.org> Subject: [OSList] Re: WOSonOS reports, should they be accessible to everyone or not? Hi Funda and others, Your question about access to WOSonOS proceedings is a question of our modern times! For many years, we have taken for granted that these proceedings should be public. Given a key purpose of WOSonOS is to share learning, that still strikes me as important. Ironically, I recently discovered some paper copies of early OSonOS proceedings and scanned them for Michael to post. (They’re not up yet.) I removed the name and address information that were a common part of proceedings then.  So my bias is that WOSonOS proceedings be public as a vehicle for learning. I think it would be sad that some future learner, perhaps a graduate student studying the spread on self-organizing forms of human endeavor, would not have access to this rich treasure trove from pioneers. :-) Your question does raise the thought that when opening the space, the host makes it explicit that the notes are public. If someone doesn’t want their notes to be in the proceedings, they can simply not provide them. I say something about how notes will be used when working with clients. It makes sense to do that at WOSonOS.  What do others think? Peggy On Dec 19, 2025, at 12:44 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: Hi Funda hi colleguesThe proceedings from our gatherings are kept accessible on the open space world site. Here is the link: https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/Best regards to you allThomas Skickat frånOutlook för iOSFrån: Funda Oral via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> Skickat: fredag, december 19, 2025 09:12 Till: OS LIST 2022 <everyone@oslist.org> Ämne: [OSList] WOSonOS reports, should they be accessible to everyone or not?  Dear Michael, Dear Colleagues, Dear Michael (Herman), thank you for all your work to keep the Open Space World website alive and accessible. I have learned so muchfrom that site.  I have a question/issue that I did not think about before, are the reports from WOSonOS`s are accessibleto everyone now? Should they be? There have been a few requests to access the Reports of WOSonOS 2024 and I hesitated to accept them. According to my understanding, the reports should only be accessible to/by those who have participated in the relevant OST. Looking forward to hearing from youFunda Oral from Stuttgart, Germany where Data Protection is everywhere. 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Hi Chad, Nice getting to know you and IC org. Greetings Funda Le dim. 21 déc. 2025 à 19:55, Chrlsful <chrlsful@aol.com> a écrit : > just hopped on end of thread. Great discussion. Thnx 2 ALL. > FYI > > *Note on publish of proceedings* > > When w/FIC board (self organized for the ICs) we had recorders '@back of > rm' who entered proceedings for participants 'look-over' before the nxt mtg > (printers for hrd copy to every/any one interested in review). A synopsis > was ready (@ end of proceedings) that was much less detailed (ie contained > 'decisions', people, places, time lines, nxt mtgs, contact info, any #1). > 'Energizers' [folks who check-in w/follow-up wrk teams] & assignment group > and their #2). contact w/that team). > > > @ the 2nd point (Synopsis, final print-out) some one may want something > didactic. They might read it in the 1st instance of 'print out’ also (or > head it off then). Every 'Contract' is different. We seek to make > definition of service/client decisions in early stages of project > development. > > It can mean Everyone in mtgs should know that there is a choice point, the > detail of how scribed toward > the publishing (name removal from comment?, entire omit? @ 1st or 2nd > instance? all?). > (FIC link) ... > https://www.ic.org/?srsltid=AfmBOorYeO35t9ajsJPpkRP9s4UnpYmMpDdFo0XD10Ay_Jf7ZqZo89pf > In Community, > - -Chad > OD / CD Consultancy > Amherst > MA > * usa > * > On Sunday, December 21, 2025, 09:09:29 AM EST, Suzanne Daigle via OSList < > everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > > Filled with love for this community as I read Funda’s caring and > thoughtful reply. It speaks so much to this gift of holding space. I feel > Harrison’s presence and that of so many who responded and others also who > are there simply reading. > > I write now from New Zealand with my partner’s family. As always when I am > in a foreign country, I feel the gift of Open Space in my life and this > precious community of ours. > > Suzanne > > On Sun, Dec 21, 2025 at 11:59 PM Funda Oral via OSList < > everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > > Dear Thomas, Peggy, Tres, Suzanne, Michael, Chris and Jane for helping me > to think further about > the issue. > > In an Open Space Event where I facilitate (*Facilitator, **Consultant, > Co-Organizer, Trainer for Self Organization)* for a Host/Client, it's > very important from myside to make it clear that the *Proceedings* will > be shared at least with all the participants and the host. If the client > needs a further* Report* from me I can work after the event to make a > better sense of the event trying to answer the *Main Invitation Question* > (the reason for opening the space). > > This is in fact* the Host *who invites the participants. I agree with you > that it's the *Convener's *responsibility to write the proceedings for > the issue he/she finds important. However, in my experience, in cases where > people are not familiar with the method, it takes some time to understand > the role of convener, the meaning of the* Bulletin Board *etc. In this > case, it's very important that the *Client/Host *agrees that the > proceedings from the subgroups depend on the conveners, not from > myself. It's of course very important to encourage and share the > proceedings to everyone who participates, butterflies, bumblebees and the > host. I am not responsible as the facilitator of the information > we get from the sub circles/sub groups. > > I can however prepare a *Final Report (as consultant) *(with or without > proceedings) to deliver information to the client if required. > > As I mentioned earlier in this group, my interest and belief in this > method stems from the atmosphere of trust, equality and openness it brings > to communities and individuals (as Suzanne also mentioned) , at this point, > as a facilitator and in my agreement with the host, the top priority for me > is the safety of the participants. Due to many “local, existing > conditions”, I may not be able to implement the method exactly as described > by the book. I can say, “Whatever happens....” The only exception for me is > the *Safety* of the participants and myself. I do not wish to share > information irresponsibly in politically risky environments. > > In this respect in my role as organizer and facilitator, I will reconsider > up to which level WOSonOS 2024 report can be shared publicly. This has > already been shared with the participants of course. > > If for WOSONOSs *Global Open Space Community *can be considered as the > Host, I am not sure how much the responsibility of the local host/organizer > can be globally shared. > > I have always been grateful to feel the support of the *Global Community *and > *Harrison Owen* in this group. > > Thanks very much for this wonderful togetherness and exchange of opinions. > > I would like to take this opportunity to share my best wishes for > Christmas and the New Year. > > Funda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le sam. 20 déc. 2025 à 08:22, Jane Lewis via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > a écrit : > > Loving this conversation. I was co-host for the 2017 WOSonOS here in > Tainan. We had an amazing event, yet despite (or because of?) many ways to > document on offer, and words about the intention of sharable proceedings, > that's not what happened. > > I take Michael's observations to heart and feel renewed clarity reading > them: > > "I've actively encouraged the production of session reports that can be > completely public. ... I think this is another case of... we can't take > care of people, we can't protect them, and we only get ourselves tangled in > the messiness if we try... BUT WE CAN remind them that they are > responsible... they are in public and can choose for themselves what to > share in the first place. In most cases, what "public" means in terms of > the notes will have been modeled by where the invitation went in the first > place." > > I'd say I got tangled in messiness, then again everything I hear from > people who were there is about the follow-on value of having been a part of > it all. > I shrug and continue the effort to invite better and invite better. It > truly is a lifelong process. > > Jane > > Jane E. Lewis 柳 芝 蓮 > +886 (0)932 259 844 > JaneELewis@gmail.com > > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 1:48 AM Michael Herman via OSList < > everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > This sounds like working too hard, Suzanne. Give the responsibility > directly, right up front, and then do the work by the book. Publish and be > done. > > > > -- > > Michael Herman > Michael Herman Associates > 312-280-7838 (mobile) > > MichaelHerman.com > OpenSpaceWorld.org > > > > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 10:44 AM Suzanne Daigle via OSList < > everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > Hello all, > I have found that people really open up during an Open Space, bravely and > often intimately sharing their experiences and views on personal and public > matters. > > I understand the concern of sharing beyond the group attending. Perhaps in > making these more publicly available, a note at the beginning of the > proceedings that invites who attended to edit, delete or modify what they > would not have wanted shared more publicly. Using a Google Doc, making it a > living document. In the spirit of the Law of Two Feet… > Suzanne > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 5:38 AM Tres Jiménez via OSList < > everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > Should we have an open space theme with this as the topic 😊 > > I’m new to the group, living in the Jack London Square neighborhood of > Oakland and an OST practitioner/facilitator. > I look forward to seeing you all at the upcoming summit in January and > finding community to connect with after doing this work pretty solo for a > decade now. > > Always learning, > Tres Jiménez > www.tresjimenez.com > https://www.linkedin.com/in/tresjimenez/ > > *From: *Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > *Date: *Friday, December 19, 2025 at 8:03 AM > *To: *Open Space Listserv <everyone@oslist.org> > *Subject: *[OSList] Re: WOSonOS reports, should they be accessible to > everyone or not? > > Hi Funda and others, > > Your question about access to WOSonOS proceedings is a question of our > modern times! For many years, we have taken for granted that these > proceedings should be public. Given a key purpose of WOSonOS is to share > learning, that still strikes me as important. > > Ironically, I recently discovered some paper copies of early OSonOS > proceedings and scanned them for Michael to post. (They’re not up yet.) I > removed the name and address information that were a common part of > proceedings then. > > So my bias is that WOSonOS proceedings be public as a vehicle for > learning. I think it would be sad that some future learner, perhaps a > graduate student studying the spread on self-organizing forms of human > endeavor, would not have access to this rich treasure trove from pioneers. > :-) > > Your question does raise the thought that when opening the space, the host > makes it explicit that the notes are public. If someone doesn’t want their > notes to be in the proceedings, they can simply not provide them. I say > something about how notes will be used when working with clients. It makes > sense to do that at WOSonOS. > > What do others think? > > Peggy > > > On Dec 19, 2025, at 12:44 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList < > everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > Hi Funda hi collegues > The proceedings from our gatherings are kept accessible on the open space > world site. > Here is the link: https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/ > Best regards to you all > Thomas > > > Skickat från Outlook för iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ------------------------------ > *Från:* Funda Oral via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > *Skickat:* fredag, december 19, 2025 09:12 > *Till:* OS LIST 2022 <everyone@oslist.org> > *Ämne:* [OSList] WOSonOS reports, should they be accessible to everyone > or not? > > > Dear Michael, Dear Colleagues, > > Dear Michael (Herman), thank you for all your work to keep the Open Space > World website alive and accessible. I have learned so much > from that site. > > I have a question/issue that I did not think about before, are the > reports from WOSonOS`s are accessible > to everyone now? Should they be? > > There have been a few requests to access the Reports of WOSonOS 2024 and I > hesitated to accept them. > > According to my understanding, the reports should only be accessible to/by > those who have participated in the relevant OST. > > Looking forward to hearing from you > Funda Oral > > from Stuttgart, Germany where Data Protection is everywhere. > > > > > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >