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Ian Andersen
Thu, Mar 7, 2024 3:08 PM

Dear Friends,
In a conversation with a friend aiming to introduce OST in a Chinese university I was trying to locate an overview of Chinese experiences. Does anyone have an idea? Even a partial idea or some examples of situations, challenges and outcomes?
I am particularly interested to learn if anyone has come across Chinese cultural “resistance” to OST.
Warm regards,
Ian Andersen
Brussels

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Dear Friends, In a conversation with a friend aiming to introduce OST in a Chinese university I was trying to locate an overview of Chinese experiences. Does anyone have an idea? Even a partial idea or some examples of situations, challenges and outcomes? I am particularly interested to learn if anyone has come across Chinese cultural “resistance” to OST. Warm regards, Ian Andersen Brussels Sent from my iPhone
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hhowen@verizon.net
Thu, Mar 7, 2024 4:59 PM

Open Space in China is massive and of 20 years duration. There are Provinces (States) in China who mandated (bad idea) OST at the community organization tool. The leading actors include Mrs Song who I first heard about because she was using Open space at the interface beterrn the Chinese Government and the Tibbetan Monks. There are many others. On my last trip to China about 8 years ago, I did a 4 day program in Beijing where we had several 100 from all over China. When the program was over I was sitting outside the hotel enjoying a beer when two gentlemen I had never see before, one from Milan and one from Brazilia — came up to me. Seems they were in China to do an Open Space for Mercedez China — all their executives. Small world.

Harrison

Open Space in China is massive and of 20 years duration. There are Provinces (States) in China who mandated (bad idea) OST at the community organization tool. The leading actors include Mrs Song who I first heard about because she was using Open space at the interface beterrn the Chinese Government and the Tibbetan Monks. There are many others. On my last trip to China about 8 years ago, I did a 4 day program in Beijing where we had several 100 from all over China. When the program was over I was sitting outside the hotel enjoying a beer when two gentlemen I had never see before, one from Milan and one from Brazilia — came up to me. Seems they were in China to do an Open Space for Mercedez China — all their executives. Small world. Harrison
HC
Hulu Chen
Thu, Mar 7, 2024 5:08 PM

Hi Ian,
I've mentioned your message to Ms. Song who I used to work with and ever
since a very good friend. Happy to connect you with her.
I can also connect you with the Brazilian friend that dear Harrison
mentioned below. He's still in China.
Let me know.
Thanks,
Hulu

On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 5:00 PM hhowen--- via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:

Open Space in China is massive and of 20 years duration. There are
Provinces (States) in China who mandated (bad idea) OST at the community
organization tool. The leading actors include Mrs Song who I first heard
about because she was using Open space at the interface beterrn the Chinese
Government and the Tibbetan Monks. There are many others. On my last trip
to China about 8 years ago, I did a 4 day program in Beijing where we had
several 100 from all over China. When the program was over I was sitting
outside the hotel enjoying a beer when two gentlemen I had never see
before, one from Milan and one from Brazilia — came up to me. Seems they
were in China to do an Open Space for Mercedez China — all their
executives. Small world.

Harrison
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Hi Ian, I've mentioned your message to Ms. Song who I used to work with and ever since a very good friend. Happy to connect you with her. I can also connect you with the Brazilian friend that dear Harrison mentioned below. He's still in China. Let me know. Thanks, Hulu On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 5:00 PM hhowen--- via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > Open Space in China is massive and of 20 years duration. There are > Provinces (States) in China who mandated (bad idea) OST at the community > organization tool. The leading actors include Mrs Song who I first heard > about because she was using Open space at the interface beterrn the Chinese > Government and the Tibbetan Monks. There are many others. On my last trip > to China about 8 years ago, I did a 4 day program in Beijing where we had > several 100 from all over China. When the program was over I was sitting > outside the hotel enjoying a beer when two gentlemen I had never see > before, one from Milan and one from Brazilia — came up to me. Seems they > were in China to do an Open Space for Mercedez China — all their > executives. Small world. > > Harrison > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org
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Funda Oral
Fri, Mar 8, 2024 7:30 AM

Dear Ian,

There is also Audrey Hepburn who translated the book of Open Space
Technology into Chinese. I met her in some online OST meetings. She might
also be reading these messages.

Have a nice day,
Funda

7 Mar 2024 Per 18:10 tarihinde Hulu Chen via OSList everyone@oslist.org
şunu yazdı:

Hi Ian,
I've mentioned your message to Ms. Song who I used to work with and ever
since a very good friend. Happy to connect you with her.
I can also connect you with the Brazilian friend that dear Harrison
mentioned below. He's still in China.
Let me know.
Thanks,
Hulu

On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 5:00 PM hhowen--- via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:

Open Space in China is massive and of 20 years duration. There are
Provinces (States) in China who mandated (bad idea) OST at the community
organization tool. The leading actors include Mrs Song who I first heard
about because she was using Open space at the interface beterrn the Chinese
Government and the Tibbetan Monks. There are many others. On my last trip
to China about 8 years ago, I did a 4 day program in Beijing where we had
several 100 from all over China. When the program was over I was sitting
outside the hotel enjoying a beer when two gentlemen I had never see
before, one from Milan and one from Brazilia — came up to me. Seems they
were in China to do an Open Space for Mercedez China — all their
executives. Small world.

Harrison
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Dear Ian, There is also Audrey Hepburn who translated the book of Open Space Technology into Chinese. I met her in some online OST meetings. She might also be reading these messages. Have a nice day, Funda 7 Mar 2024 Per 18:10 tarihinde Hulu Chen via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> şunu yazdı: > Hi Ian, > I've mentioned your message to Ms. Song who I used to work with and ever > since a very good friend. Happy to connect you with her. > I can also connect you with the Brazilian friend that dear Harrison > mentioned below. He's still in China. > Let me know. > Thanks, > Hulu > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 5:00 PM hhowen--- via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > wrote: > >> Open Space in China is massive and of 20 years duration. There are >> Provinces (States) in China who mandated (bad idea) OST at the community >> organization tool. The leading actors include Mrs Song who I first heard >> about because she was using Open space at the interface beterrn the Chinese >> Government and the Tibbetan Monks. There are many others. On my last trip >> to China about 8 years ago, I did a 4 day program in Beijing where we had >> several 100 from all over China. When the program was over I was sitting >> outside the hotel enjoying a beer when two gentlemen I had never see >> before, one from Milan and one from Brazilia — came up to me. Seems they >> were in China to do an Open Space for Mercedez China — all their >> executives. Small world. >> >> Harrison >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >> See the archives here: >> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org
MM
Michael M Pannwitz
Fri, Mar 8, 2024 9:06 AM

Dear Ian,

have a look at the Open Space World Map and click on China

there you can also see Audrey Hepburns profile

In addition to the book she is holding in her left hand (Wave Rider) she
has translated several other books of the man with the hat.

And also look at Taiwan with 7 resident os workers

Gail West is one of the organizers of WOSonOS in Taiwan in 2009 and 2017.

ciao
mmp

Am 08.03.2024 um 08:30 schrieb Funda Oral via OSList:

Dear Ian,

There is also Audrey Hepburn who translated the book of Open Space
Technology into Chinese. I met her in some online OST meetings. She
might also be reading these messages.

Have a nice day,
Funda

7 Mar 2024 Per 18:10 tarihinde Hulu Chen via OSList
everyone@oslist.org şunu yazdı:

 Hi Ian,
 I've mentioned your message to Ms. Song who I used to work with
 and ever since a very good friend. Happy to connect you with her.
 I can also connect you with the Brazilian friend that dear
 Harrison mentioned below. He's still in China.
 Let me know.
 Thanks,
 Hulu


 On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 5:00 PM hhowen--- via OSList
 <everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

     Open Space in China is massive and of 20 years duration. There
     are Provinces (States) in China who mandated (bad idea) OST at
     the community organization tool. The leading actors include
     Mrs Song who I first heard about because she was using Open
     space at the interface beterrn the Chinese Government and the
     Tibbetan Monks. There are many others. On my last trip to
     China about 8 years ago, I did a 4 day program in Beijing
     where we had several 100 from all over China. When the program
     was over I was sitting outside the hotel enjoying a beer when
     two gentlemen I had never see before, one from Milan and one
     from Brazilia — came up to me. Seems they were in China to do
     an Open Space for Mercedez China — all their executives. Small
     world.

     Harrison

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Dear Ian, have a look at the Open Space World Map and click on China > https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/country/CN there you can also see Audrey Hepburns profile > https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/worker/audrey-hepburn In addition to the book she is holding in her left hand (Wave Rider) she has translated several other books of the man with the hat. And also look at Taiwan with 7 resident os workers > https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/country/TW Gail West is one of the organizers of WOSonOS in Taiwan in 2009 and 2017. ciao mmp Am 08.03.2024 um 08:30 schrieb Funda Oral via OSList: > Dear Ian, > > There is also Audrey Hepburn who translated the book of Open Space > Technology into Chinese. I met her in some online OST meetings. She > might also be reading these messages. > > Have a nice day, > Funda > > 7 Mar 2024 Per 18:10 tarihinde Hulu Chen via OSList > <everyone@oslist.org> şunu yazdı: > > Hi Ian, > I've mentioned your message to Ms. Song who I used to work with > and ever since a very good friend. Happy to connect you with her. > I can also connect you with the Brazilian friend that dear > Harrison mentioned below. He's still in China. > Let me know. > Thanks, > Hulu > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 5:00 PM hhowen--- via OSList > <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > Open Space in China is massive and of 20 years duration. There > are Provinces (States) in China who mandated (bad idea) OST at > the community organization tool. The leading actors include > Mrs Song who I first heard about because she was using Open > space at the interface beterrn the Chinese Government and the > Tibbetan Monks. There are many others. On my last trip to > China about 8 years ago, I did a 4 day program in Beijing > where we had several 100 from all over China. When the program > was over I was sitting outside the hotel enjoying a beer when > two gentlemen I had never see before, one from Milan and one > from Brazilia — came up to me. Seems they were in China to do > an Open Space for Mercedez China — all their executives. Small > world. > > Harrison > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: > https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: > https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > > OSList mailing list --everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email toeveryone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here:https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org Michael M Pannwitz Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany +49 30 7728000mmpannwitz@posteo.de
MP
Mark Pixley
Fri, Mar 8, 2024 9:19 AM

Dear Ian,

There is quite a bit of experience using OST in a Chinese environment.  It
was first introduced in the early 2000s with several practitioners using
and teaching this practice.  We invited Harrison for conferences in Hong
Kong and ZhongShan and my colleague, Karen Lim, has translated Open Space
Technology:  A User's Guide 3rd Edition
. l

Over the last twenty years, we have used OST in a range of corporate,
governmental and NGO forums. My experience is that most participants find
it an exciting experience and a welcome change from a traditional 'talk at
you' approach to meetings while the leaders can find it challenging though
they usually welcome the results.

It is important to ensure that the leader understands the process and will
welcome the results. There is often a feeling that the leader is suppose to
know the answers and this process may feel like abdicating that
responsibility. It is helpful if the senior leaders have experienced the
process before they use it within their organization.

We had one meeting for an industry chamber of commerce where a senior
leader walked in, looked around and walked out and refused to participate.
After some discussion, we found that he objected to not having a table in
front of him.  We arranged for a table to be provided for him when he
joined a session.  Later he apologised for the inconvenience he had caused.

Also, much effort must be taken to determine what is the theme/question for
the Open Space.  It can be particularly challenging to find out what needs
to be talked about and say it so everyone will feel safe.  My colleagues
will often emphasize what is not being said, rather than what has been
said.

There is often a fear that participants will not contribute questions and
lead topics.  I have seen a facilitator change the process by giving blank
papers to each participant and asking everyone to write at least one
question.  They then gather these questions and organize them into groups
of similar questions.  They told me that this was OST with Chinese
characteristics.  My own experience is that as long as the space is safe
there will be lots of topics.

If you have further questions, feel free to reach out...

Best Regards,

Mark

Mark Pixley
Principal Facilitator

LEADERSHIP INC
Facilitating Organizational Change in Greater China
86-186 8895 0841
mark@leadershipinc.com.cn mjpixley@gmail.com

On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 11:09 PM Ian Andersen via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:

Dear Friends,
In a conversation with a friend aiming to introduce OST in a Chinese
university I was trying to locate an overview of Chinese experiences. Does
anyone have an idea? Even a partial idea or some examples of situations,
challenges and outcomes?
I am particularly interested to learn if anyone has come across Chinese
cultural “resistance” to OST.
Warm regards,
Ian Andersen
Brussels

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Dear Ian, There is quite a bit of experience using OST in a Chinese environment. It was first introduced in the early 2000s with several practitioners using and teaching this practice. We invited Harrison for conferences in Hong Kong and ZhongShan and my colleague, Karen Lim, has translated *Open Space Technology: A User's Guide 3rd Edition*. l Over the last twenty years, we have used OST in a range of corporate, governmental and NGO forums. My experience is that most participants find it an exciting experience and a welcome change from a traditional 'talk at you' approach to meetings while the leaders can find it challenging though they usually welcome the results. It is important to ensure that the leader understands the process and will welcome the results. There is often a feeling that the leader is suppose to know the answers and this process may feel like abdicating that responsibility. It is helpful if the senior leaders have experienced the process before they use it within their organization. We had one meeting for an industry chamber of commerce where a senior leader walked in, looked around and walked out and refused to participate. After some discussion, we found that he objected to not having a table in front of him. We arranged for a table to be provided for him when he joined a session. Later he apologised for the inconvenience he had caused. Also, much effort must be taken to determine what is the theme/question for the Open Space. It can be particularly challenging to find out what needs to be talked about and say it so everyone will feel safe. My colleagues will often emphasize what is not being said, rather than what has been said. There is often a fear that participants will not contribute questions and lead topics. I have seen a facilitator change the process by giving blank papers to each participant and asking everyone to write at least one question. They then gather these questions and organize them into groups of similar questions. They told me that this was OST with Chinese characteristics. My own experience is that as long as the space is safe there will be lots of topics. If you have further questions, feel free to reach out... Best Regards, Mark Mark Pixley Principal Facilitator LEADERSHIP INC Facilitating Organizational Change in Greater China 86-186 8895 0841 mark@leadershipinc.com.cn mjpixley@gmail.com On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 11:09 PM Ian Andersen via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > Dear Friends, > In a conversation with a friend aiming to introduce OST in a Chinese > university I was trying to locate an overview of Chinese experiences. Does > anyone have an idea? Even a partial idea or some examples of situations, > challenges and outcomes? > I am particularly interested to learn if anyone has come across Chinese > cultural “resistance” to OST. > Warm regards, > Ian Andersen > Brussels > > Sent from my iPhone > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org --