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douglasgermann
Mon, Jan 27, 2025 1:29 AM

Isaac--

How about two words?

Y'all come!

:- Doug. Germann

On Sunday, January 26th, 2025 at 2:20 PM, isaac a isaac48@hotmail.com wrote:

Creativity, Connection, Collaboration???
Hmmm, I'm struggling! 😂

From: isaac a isaac48@hotmail.com
Sent: 26 January 2025 19:18
To: douglasgermann douglasgermann@proton.me
Subject: Re: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation

Crikey! 3 words only?! That's quite the challenge!
It does feel long and wordy, but I gave myself a pass, by taking inspiration from the annual Improbable D&D :
'What are we going to do about Theatre and the Performing Arts'.
Granted it's not as long, but...live and learn!
Maybe:
'How can we connect better to inspire new ideas, creativity and collaborations'?

From: douglasgermann via OSList everyone@oslist.org
Sent: 26 January 2025 17:55
To: oslist everyone@oslist.org
Subject: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation

Isaac--

As to 2: How might you re-write your inviting question next time? Do you think you might get it down to three words? How?

Overall, next time, what one less thing will you worry about?

:- Doug. Germann

On Sunday, January 26th, 2025 at 3:05 AM, isaac a via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:

This might be fairly trivial or it might be deeply profound.
I've been reflecting on my first facilitation of Open Space last Friday, and it's entered into my dreams.
In the dream and experienced OS facilitator was correcting mistakes and I was getting very impatient because attendees were about to arrive.
I was scared they were going to unravel everything, including the main question.
The main question was "How can curiosity and creativity inspire and develop new ideas, and meaningful connections and collaborations"?
Although I was freaking out, there was one thing I found fascinating. He deconstructed the sentence by picking out the words 'curiosity', 'creativity', 'connections' and 'collaborations' (and maybe one or two others, 'ideas', maybe...) and reconstructed a number of alternative questions by rearranging the words and offering synonyms...etc. Deconstruction and organised reconstruction. It was beautiful, although I was really stressed out waiting for people to arrive. It wasn't so much about starting on time, it just felt like all my efforts would be pulled apart, minutes before the event started
So, my questions are:

  1. Being vaguely aware of the 'magical' and 'spiritual' aspects of OS, does this resonate? Are there any articles I could read, or talks I could listen to about the more 'spiritual' aspects of OS, particularly dreams and dreaming.
  2. Deconstruction and reconstruction of words to craft questions. Does that also resonate?

... and, in writing it out, I've just realised what the dream was about. Minutes before the event started, one of the janitors at the library bullishly approached me about something he completely misunderstood, and I felt like he was going to derail the event. It was actually quite upsetting. Despite the (now apparent) obvious source of the dream, I think there was an alchemy in turning that upset into something more constructive, albeit frustrating.
Still, OS, dreams, spirituality...etc. and sentence construction, any thoughts anyone?
Best wishes!
Isaac 🙏🏿❤️


From: Peggy Holman via OSList everyone@oslist.org
Sent: 25 January 2025 19:08
To: Open Space Listserv everyone@oslist.org
Subject: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation

Congratulations Isaac!

Many thanks for sharing your story. You never know who or what you will inspire.

Peggy


Peggy Holman
peggy@peggyholman.com

Bellevue, WA 98006
206-948-0432
www.peggyholman.com

Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity

"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become
the fire".
-- Drew Dellinger

On Jan 24, 2025, at 6:35 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:

Way to go Isaac. Keep opening space. And as Harrison would almost certainly tell you, keep telling the story.

Chris.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 24, 2025, at 5:11 PM, isaac a via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:


I want to say a MASSIVE THANK YOU, to everyone who helped and supported and adviced me in enabling me to do my first facilitation of Open Space, for 64 Million Artists and Hull Libraries.
I've been asking for all sorts of advice over the last few months and weeks, like "can facilitators call sessions"? "How, when, where can I incorporate a drum circle"?...etc.
It was such an intense period of reflection and deep thought, of trying to figure out so much.
In hindsight, I now know that there were so many unknown unknowns, and the best way to know is to just do it, get some of it wrong and learn.
A few days prior to the event, which happened yesterday, I had the audio recording of Harrison Owen and video of Chris Corrigan opening space, playing in my headphones on repeat, over and over.
When it came to the event I had moments where my mind went blank. I felt I made so many mistakes, but the feedback I got was that it went very well.
The (optional) drum circle went really well. It echoed the "whoever comes are the right people", and it felt right as a way to celebrate together after the closing circle.
So much learned, so much more to learn and, so grateful to have this wonderful group of people to help, support and advice.
Thank you all, so much.
Isaac

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Isaac-- How about two words? Y'all come! :- Doug. Germann On Sunday, January 26th, 2025 at 2:20 PM, isaac a <isaac48@hotmail.com> wrote: > Creativity, Connection, Collaboration??? > Hmmm, I'm struggling! 😂 > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: isaac a <isaac48@hotmail.com> > Sent: 26 January 2025 19:18 > To: douglasgermann <douglasgermann@proton.me> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation > > Crikey! 3 words only?! That's quite the challenge! > It does feel long and wordy, but I gave myself a pass, by taking inspiration from the annual Improbable D&D : > 'What are we going to do about Theatre and the Performing Arts'. > Granted it's not as long, but...live and learn! > Maybe: > 'How can we connect better to inspire new ideas, creativity and collaborations'? > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: douglasgermann via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > Sent: 26 January 2025 17:55 > To: oslist <everyone@oslist.org> > Subject: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation > > Isaac-- > > As to 2: How might you re-write your inviting question next time? Do you think you might get it down to three words? How? > > Overall, next time, what one less thing will you worry about? > > :- Doug. Germann > > On Sunday, January 26th, 2025 at 3:05 AM, isaac a via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > >> This might be fairly trivial or it might be deeply profound. >> I've been reflecting on my first facilitation of Open Space last Friday, and it's entered into my dreams. >> In the dream and experienced OS facilitator was correcting mistakes and I was getting very impatient because attendees were about to arrive. >> I was scared they were going to unravel everything, including the main question. >> The main question was "How can curiosity and creativity inspire and develop new ideas, and meaningful connections and collaborations"? >> Although I was freaking out, there was one thing I found fascinating. He deconstructed the sentence by picking out the words 'curiosity', 'creativity', 'connections' and 'collaborations' (and maybe one or two others, 'ideas', maybe...) and reconstructed a number of alternative questions by rearranging the words and offering synonyms...etc. Deconstruction and organised reconstruction. It was beautiful, although I was really stressed out waiting for people to arrive. It wasn't so much about starting on time, it just felt like all my efforts would be pulled apart, minutes before the event started >> So, my questions are: >> 1. Being vaguely aware of the 'magical' and 'spiritual' aspects of OS, does this resonate? Are there any articles I could read, or talks I could listen to about the more 'spiritual' aspects of OS, particularly dreams and dreaming. >> 2. Deconstruction and reconstruction of words to craft questions. Does that also resonate? >> >> ... and, in writing it out, I've just realised what the dream was about. Minutes before the event started, one of the janitors at the library bullishly approached me about something he completely misunderstood, and I felt like he was going to derail the event. It was actually quite upsetting. Despite the (now apparent) obvious source of the dream, I think there was an alchemy in turning that upset into something more constructive, albeit frustrating. >> Still, OS, dreams, spirituality...etc. and sentence construction, any thoughts anyone? >> Best wishes! >> Isaac 🙏🏿❤️ >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> From: Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> >> Sent: 25 January 2025 19:08 >> To: Open Space Listserv <everyone@oslist.org> >> Subject: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation >> >> Congratulations Isaac! >> >> Many thanks for sharing your story. You never know who or what you will inspire. >> >> Peggy >> >> _________________________________ >> Peggy Holman >> peggy@peggyholman.com >> >> Bellevue, WA 98006 >> 206-948-0432 >> www.peggyholman.com >> >> Enjoy the award winning [Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity](https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/) >> >> "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become >> the fire". >> -- Drew Dellinger >> >>> On Jan 24, 2025, at 6:35 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >>> >>> Way to go Isaac. Keep opening space. And as Harrison would almost certainly tell you, keep telling the story. >>> >>> Chris. >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jan 24, 2025, at 5:11 PM, isaac a via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>  >>>> I want to say a MASSIVE THANK YOU, to everyone who helped and supported and adviced me in enabling me to do my first facilitation of Open Space, for 64 Million Artists and Hull Libraries. >>>> I've been asking for all sorts of advice over the last few months and weeks, like "can facilitators call sessions"? "How, when, where can I incorporate a drum circle"?...etc. >>>> It was such an intense period of reflection and deep thought, of trying to figure out so much. >>>> In hindsight, I now know that there were so many unknown unknowns, and the best way to know is to just do it, get some of it wrong and learn. >>>> A few days prior to the event, which happened yesterday, I had the audio recording of Harrison Owen and video of Chris Corrigan opening space, playing in my headphones on repeat, over and over. >>>> When it came to the event I had moments where my mind went blank. I felt I made so many mistakes, but the feedback I got was that it went very well. >>>> The (optional) drum circle went really well. It echoed the "whoever comes are the right people", and it felt right as a way to celebrate together after the closing circle. >>>> So much learned, so much more to learn and, so grateful to have this wonderful group of people to help, support and advice. >>>> Thank you all, so much. >>>> Isaac >>>> >>>> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >>>> See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >>> >>> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >>> See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org
IA
isaac a
Mon, Jan 27, 2025 3:01 AM

Thanks everyone for sharing such beautiful stories and dreams.
Best wishes.
Isaac 🙏🏿❤️


From: douglasgermann douglasgermann@proton.me
Sent: 27 January 2025 01:29
To: isaac a isaac48@hotmail.com
Cc: oslist everyone@oslist.org
Subject: Re: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation

Isaac--

How about two words?

Y'all come!

:- Doug. Germann

On Sunday, January 26th, 2025 at 2:20 PM, isaac a isaac48@hotmail.com wrote:
Creativity, Connection, Collaboration???
Hmmm, I'm struggling! 😂


From: isaac a isaac48@hotmail.com
Sent: 26 January 2025 19:18
To: douglasgermann douglasgermann@proton.me
Subject: Re: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation

Crikey! 3 words only?! That's quite the challenge!
It does feel long and wordy, but I gave myself a pass, by taking inspiration from the annual Improbable D&D :
'What are we going to do about Theatre and the Performing Arts'.
Granted it's not as long, but...live and learn!
Maybe:
'How can we connect better to inspire new ideas, creativity and collaborations'?


From: douglasgermann via OSList everyone@oslist.org
Sent: 26 January 2025 17:55
To: oslist everyone@oslist.org
Subject: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation

Isaac--

As to 2: How might you re-write your inviting question next time? Do you think you might get it down to three words? How?

Overall, next time, what one less thing will you worry about?

:- Doug. Germann

On Sunday, January 26th, 2025 at 3:05 AM, isaac a via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:
This might be fairly trivial or it might be deeply profound.
I've been reflecting on my first facilitation of Open Space last Friday, and it's entered into my dreams.
In the dream and experienced OS facilitator was correcting mistakes and I was getting very impatient because attendees were about to arrive.
I was scared they were going to unravel everything, including the main question.
The main question was "How can curiosity and creativity inspire and develop new ideas, and meaningful connections and collaborations"?
Although I was freaking out, there was one thing I found fascinating. He deconstructed the sentence by picking out the words 'curiosity', 'creativity', 'connections' and 'collaborations' (and maybe one or two others, 'ideas', maybe...) and reconstructed a number of alternative questions by rearranging the words and offering synonyms...etc. Deconstruction and organised reconstruction. It was beautiful, although I was really stressed out waiting for people to arrive. It wasn't so much about starting on time, it just felt like all my efforts would be pulled apart, minutes before the event started
So, my questions are:

  1. Being vaguely aware of the 'magical' and 'spiritual' aspects of OS, does this resonate? Are there any articles I could read, or talks I could listen to about the more 'spiritual' aspects of OS, particularly dreams and dreaming.
  2. Deconstruction and reconstruction of words to craft questions. Does that also resonate?

... and, in writing it out, I've just realised what the dream was about. Minutes before the event started, one of the janitors at the library bullishly approached me about something he completely misunderstood, and I felt like he was going to derail the event. It was actually quite upsetting. Despite the (now apparent) obvious source of the dream, I think there was an alchemy in turning that upset into something more constructive, albeit frustrating.
Still, OS, dreams, spirituality...etc. and sentence construction, any thoughts anyone?
Best wishes!
Isaac 🙏🏿❤️


From: Peggy Holman via OSList everyone@oslist.org
Sent: 25 January 2025 19:08
To: Open Space Listserv everyone@oslist.org
Subject: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation

Congratulations Isaac!

Many thanks for sharing your story. You never know who or what you will inspire.

Peggy


Peggy Holman
peggy@peggyholman.com

Bellevue, WA  98006
206-948-0432
www.peggyholman.com

Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunityhttps://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/

"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become
the fire".
-- Drew Dellinger

On Jan 24, 2025, at 6:35 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:

Way to go Isaac. Keep opening space. And as Harrison would almost certainly tell you, keep telling the story.

Chris.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 24, 2025, at 5:11 PM, isaac a via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:


I want to say a MASSIVE THANK YOU, to everyone who helped and supported and adviced me in enabling me to do my first facilitation of Open Space, for 64 Million Artists and Hull Libraries.
I've been asking for all sorts of advice over the last few months and weeks, like "can facilitators call sessions"? "How, when, where can I incorporate a drum circle"?...etc.
It was such an intense period of reflection and deep thought, of trying to figure out so much.
In hindsight, I now know that there were so many unknown unknowns, and the best way to know is to just do it, get some of it wrong and learn.
A few days prior to the event, which happened yesterday, I had the audio recording of Harrison Owen and video of Chris Corrigan opening space, playing in my headphones on repeat, over and over.
When it came to the event I had moments where my mind went blank. I felt I made so many mistakes, but the feedback I got was that it went very well.
The (optional) drum circle went really well. It echoed the "whoever comes are the right people", and it felt right as a way to celebrate together after the closing circle.
So much learned, so much more to learn and, so grateful to have this wonderful group of people to help, support and advice.
Thank you all, so much.
Isaac

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Thanks everyone for sharing such beautiful stories and dreams. Best wishes. Isaac 🙏🏿❤️ ________________________________ From: douglasgermann <douglasgermann@proton.me> Sent: 27 January 2025 01:29 To: isaac a <isaac48@hotmail.com> Cc: oslist <everyone@oslist.org> Subject: Re: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation Isaac-- How about two words? Y'all come! :- Doug. Germann On Sunday, January 26th, 2025 at 2:20 PM, isaac a <isaac48@hotmail.com> wrote: Creativity, Connection, Collaboration??? Hmmm, I'm struggling! 😂 ________________________________ From: isaac a <isaac48@hotmail.com> Sent: 26 January 2025 19:18 To: douglasgermann <douglasgermann@proton.me> Subject: Re: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation Crikey! 3 words only?! That's quite the challenge! It does feel long and wordy, but I gave myself a pass, by taking inspiration from the annual Improbable D&D : 'What are we going to do about Theatre and the Performing Arts'. Granted it's not as long, but...live and learn! Maybe: 'How can we connect better to inspire new ideas, creativity and collaborations'? ________________________________ From: douglasgermann via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> Sent: 26 January 2025 17:55 To: oslist <everyone@oslist.org> Subject: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation Isaac-- As to 2: How might you re-write your inviting question next time? Do you think you might get it down to three words? How? Overall, next time, what one less thing will you worry about? :- Doug. Germann On Sunday, January 26th, 2025 at 3:05 AM, isaac a via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: This might be fairly trivial or it might be deeply profound. I've been reflecting on my first facilitation of Open Space last Friday, and it's entered into my dreams. In the dream and experienced OS facilitator was correcting mistakes and I was getting very impatient because attendees were about to arrive. I was scared they were going to unravel everything, including the main question. The main question was "How can curiosity and creativity inspire and develop new ideas, and meaningful connections and collaborations"? Although I was freaking out, there was one thing I found fascinating. He deconstructed the sentence by picking out the words 'curiosity', 'creativity', 'connections' and 'collaborations' (and maybe one or two others, 'ideas', maybe...) and reconstructed a number of alternative questions by rearranging the words and offering synonyms...etc. Deconstruction and organised reconstruction. It was beautiful, although I was really stressed out waiting for people to arrive. It wasn't so much about starting on time, it just felt like all my efforts would be pulled apart, minutes before the event started So, my questions are: 1. Being vaguely aware of the 'magical' and 'spiritual' aspects of OS, does this resonate? Are there any articles I could read, or talks I could listen to about the more 'spiritual' aspects of OS, particularly dreams and dreaming. 2. Deconstruction and reconstruction of words to craft questions. Does that also resonate? ... and, in writing it out, I've just realised what the dream was about. Minutes before the event started, one of the janitors at the library bullishly approached me about something he completely misunderstood, and I felt like he was going to derail the event. It was actually quite upsetting. Despite the (now apparent) obvious source of the dream, I think there was an alchemy in turning that upset into something more constructive, albeit frustrating. Still, OS, dreams, spirituality...etc. and sentence construction, any thoughts anyone? Best wishes! Isaac 🙏🏿❤️ ________________________________ From: Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> Sent: 25 January 2025 19:08 To: Open Space Listserv <everyone@oslist.org> Subject: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation Congratulations Isaac! Many thanks for sharing your story. You never know who or what you will inspire. Peggy _________________________________ Peggy Holman peggy@peggyholman.com Bellevue, WA 98006 206-948-0432 www.peggyholman.com Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity<https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become the fire". -- Drew Dellinger On Jan 24, 2025, at 6:35 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: Way to go Isaac. Keep opening space. And as Harrison would almost certainly tell you, keep telling the story. Chris. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2025, at 5:11 PM, isaac a via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote:  I want to say a MASSIVE THANK YOU, to everyone who helped and supported and adviced me in enabling me to do my first facilitation of Open Space, for 64 Million Artists and Hull Libraries. I've been asking for all sorts of advice over the last few months and weeks, like "can facilitators call sessions"? "How, when, where can I incorporate a drum circle"?...etc. It was such an intense period of reflection and deep thought, of trying to figure out so much. In hindsight, I now know that there were so many unknown unknowns, and the best way to know is to just do it, get some of it wrong and learn. A few days prior to the event, which happened yesterday, I had the audio recording of Harrison Owen and video of Chris Corrigan opening space, playing in my headphones on repeat, over and over. When it came to the event I had moments where my mind went blank. I felt I made so many mistakes, but the feedback I got was that it went very well. The (optional) drum circle went really well. It echoed the "whoever comes are the right people", and it felt right as a way to celebrate together after the closing circle. So much learned, so much more to learn and, so grateful to have this wonderful group of people to help, support and advice. Thank you all, so much. Isaac OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org
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Funda Oral
Mon, Jan 27, 2025 7:06 AM

I do not deny that Ost has spiritual dimensions, but I refrain from
mentioning them for many reasons. I like to explain this method and the
role of the facilitator in practical, (earthly, materialistic) terms.

My dreams are often about falling off a cliff or climbing high. I think it
is about overcoming my fears and learning to trust life.

It is so good that this method leads to sincere sharing from so many people
🤗, thanks Harrison🙏

Funda Oral Toussaint.

27 Oca 2025 Pzt 04:02 tarihinde isaac a via OSList everyone@oslist.org
şunu yazdı:

Thanks everyone for sharing such beautiful stories and dreams.
Best wishes.
Isaac 🙏🏿❤️

From: douglasgermann douglasgermann@proton.me
Sent: 27 January 2025 01:29
To: isaac a isaac48@hotmail.com
Cc: oslist everyone@oslist.org
Subject: Re: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation

Isaac--

How about two words?

Y'all come!

:- Doug. Germann

On Sunday, January 26th, 2025 at 2:20 PM, isaac a isaac48@hotmail.com
wrote:

Creativity, Connection, Collaboration???
Hmmm, I'm struggling! 😂

From: isaac a isaac48@hotmail.com
Sent: 26 January 2025 19:18
To: douglasgermann douglasgermann@proton.me
Subject: Re: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation

Crikey! 3 words only?! That's quite the challenge!
It does feel long and wordy, but I gave myself a pass, by taking
inspiration from the annual Improbable D&D :
'What are we going to do about Theatre and the Performing Arts'.
Granted it's not as long, but...live and learn!
Maybe:
'How can we connect better to inspire new ideas, creativity and
collaborations'?

From: douglasgermann via OSList everyone@oslist.org
Sent: 26 January 2025 17:55
To: oslist everyone@oslist.org
Subject: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation

Isaac--

As to 2: How might you re-write your inviting question next time? Do you
think you might get it down to three words? How?

Overall, next time, what one less thing will you worry about?

:- Doug. Germann

On Sunday, January 26th, 2025 at 3:05 AM, isaac a via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

This might be fairly trivial or it might be deeply profound.
I've been reflecting on my first facilitation of Open Space last Friday,
and it's entered into my dreams.
In the dream and experienced OS facilitator was correcting mistakes and I
was getting very impatient because attendees were about to arrive.
I was scared they were going to unravel everything, including the main
question.
The main question was "How can curiosity and creativity inspire and
develop new ideas, and meaningful connections and collaborations"?
Although I was freaking out, there was one thing I found fascinating. He
deconstructed the sentence by picking out the words 'curiosity',
'creativity', 'connections' and 'collaborations' (and maybe one or two
others, 'ideas', maybe...) and reconstructed a number of alternative
questions by rearranging the words and offering synonyms...etc.
Deconstruction and organised reconstruction. It was beautiful, although I
was really stressed out waiting for people to arrive. It wasn't so much
about starting on time, it just felt like all my efforts would be pulled
apart, minutes before the event started
So, my questions are:

  1. Being vaguely aware of the 'magical' and 'spiritual' aspects of OS,
    does this resonate? Are there any articles I could read, or talks I could
    listen to about the more 'spiritual' aspects of OS, particularly dreams and
    dreaming.
  2. Deconstruction and reconstruction of words to craft questions. Does
    that also resonate?

... and, in writing it out, I've just realised what the dream was about.
Minutes before the event started, one of the janitors at the library
bullishly approached me about something he completely misunderstood, and I
felt like he was going to derail the event. It was actually quite
upsetting. Despite the (now apparent) obvious source of the dream, I think
there was an alchemy in turning that upset into something more
constructive, albeit frustrating.
Still, OS, dreams, spirituality...etc. and sentence construction, any
thoughts anyone?
Best wishes!
Isaac 🙏🏿❤️


From: Peggy Holman via OSList everyone@oslist.org
Sent: 25 January 2025 19:08
To: Open Space Listserv everyone@oslist.org
Subject: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation

Congratulations Isaac!

Many thanks for sharing your story. You never know who or what you will
inspire.

Peggy


Peggy Holman
peggy@peggyholman.com

Bellevue, WA  98006
206-948-0432
www.peggyholman.com

Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval
into Opportunity https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/

"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get
burnt, is to become
the fire".
-- Drew Dellinger

On Jan 24, 2025, at 6:35 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

Way to go Isaac. Keep opening space. And as Harrison would almost
certainly tell you, keep telling the story.

Chris.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 24, 2025, at 5:11 PM, isaac a via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:


I want to say a MASSIVE THANK YOU, to everyone who helped and supported
and adviced me in enabling me to do my first facilitation of Open Space,
for 64 Million Artists and Hull Libraries.
I've been asking for all sorts of advice over the last few months and
weeks, like "can facilitators call sessions"? "How, when, where can I
incorporate a drum circle"?...etc.
It was such an intense period of reflection and deep thought, of trying to
figure out so much.
In hindsight, I now know that there were so many unknown unknowns, and the
best way to know is to just do it, get some of it wrong and learn.
A few days prior to the event, which happened yesterday, I had the audio
recording of Harrison Owen and video of Chris Corrigan opening space,
playing in my headphones on repeat, over and over.
When it came to the event I had moments where my mind went blank. I felt I
made so many mistakes, but the feedback I got was that it went very well.
The (optional) drum circle went really well. It echoed the "whoever comes
are the right people", and it felt right as a way to celebrate together
after the closing circle.
So much learned, so much more to learn and, so grateful to have this
wonderful group of people to help, support and advice.
Thank you all, so much.
Isaac

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I do not deny that Ost has spiritual dimensions, but I refrain from mentioning them for many reasons. I like to explain this method and the role of the facilitator in practical, (earthly, materialistic) terms. My dreams are often about falling off a cliff or climbing high. I think it is about overcoming my fears and learning to trust life. It is so good that this method leads to sincere sharing from so many people 🤗, thanks Harrison🙏 Funda Oral Toussaint. 27 Oca 2025 Pzt 04:02 tarihinde isaac a via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> şunu yazdı: > Thanks everyone for sharing such beautiful stories and dreams. > Best wishes. > Isaac 🙏🏿❤️ > ------------------------------ > *From:* douglasgermann <douglasgermann@proton.me> > *Sent:* 27 January 2025 01:29 > *To:* isaac a <isaac48@hotmail.com> > *Cc:* oslist <everyone@oslist.org> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation > > Isaac-- > > How about two words? > > Y'all come! > > :- Doug. Germann > > > On Sunday, January 26th, 2025 at 2:20 PM, isaac a <isaac48@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > Creativity, Connection, Collaboration??? > Hmmm, I'm struggling! 😂 > ------------------------------ > *From:* isaac a <isaac48@hotmail.com> > *Sent:* 26 January 2025 19:18 > *To:* douglasgermann <douglasgermann@proton.me> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation > > Crikey! 3 words only?! That's quite the challenge! > It does feel long and wordy, but I gave myself a pass, by taking > inspiration from the annual Improbable D&D : > 'What are we going to do about Theatre and the Performing Arts'. > Granted it's not as long, but...live and learn! > Maybe: > 'How can we connect better to inspire new ideas, creativity and > collaborations'? > ------------------------------ > *From:* douglasgermann via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > *Sent:* 26 January 2025 17:55 > *To:* oslist <everyone@oslist.org> > *Subject:* [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation > > Isaac-- > > As to 2: How might you re-write your inviting question next time? Do you > think you might get it down to three words? How? > > Overall, next time, what one less thing will you worry about? > > :- Doug. Germann > > > > On Sunday, January 26th, 2025 at 3:05 AM, isaac a via OSList < > everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > This might be fairly trivial or it might be deeply profound. > I've been reflecting on my first facilitation of Open Space last Friday, > and it's entered into my dreams. > In the dream and experienced OS facilitator was correcting mistakes and I > was getting very impatient because attendees were about to arrive. > I was scared they were going to unravel everything, including the main > question. > The main question was "How can curiosity and creativity inspire and > develop new ideas, and meaningful connections and collaborations"? > Although I was freaking out, there was one thing I found fascinating. He > deconstructed the sentence by picking out the words 'curiosity', > 'creativity', 'connections' and 'collaborations' (and maybe one or two > others, 'ideas', maybe...) and reconstructed a number of alternative > questions by rearranging the words and offering synonyms...etc. > Deconstruction and organised reconstruction. It was beautiful, although I > was really stressed out waiting for people to arrive. It wasn't so much > about starting on time, it just felt like all my efforts would be pulled > apart, minutes before the event started > So, my questions are: > 1. Being vaguely aware of the 'magical' and 'spiritual' aspects of OS, > does this resonate? Are there any articles I could read, or talks I could > listen to about the more 'spiritual' aspects of OS, particularly dreams and > dreaming. > 2. Deconstruction and reconstruction of words to craft questions. Does > that also resonate? > > ... and, in writing it out, I've just realised what the dream was about. > Minutes before the event started, one of the janitors at the library > bullishly approached me about something he completely misunderstood, and I > felt like he was going to derail the event. It was actually quite > upsetting. Despite the (now apparent) obvious source of the dream, I think > there was an alchemy in turning that upset into something more > constructive, albeit frustrating. > Still, OS, dreams, spirituality...etc. and sentence construction, any > thoughts anyone? > Best wishes! > Isaac 🙏🏿❤️ > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > *Sent:* 25 January 2025 19:08 > *To:* Open Space Listserv <everyone@oslist.org> > *Subject:* [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation > > Congratulations Isaac! > > Many thanks for sharing your story. You never know who or what you will > inspire. > > Peggy > > > _________________________________ > Peggy Holman > peggy@peggyholman.com > > Bellevue, WA 98006 > 206-948-0432 > www.peggyholman.com > > Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval > into Opportunity <https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> > > "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get > burnt, is to become > the fire". > -- Drew Dellinger > > > > On Jan 24, 2025, at 6:35 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList < > everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > > Way to go Isaac. Keep opening space. And as Harrison would almost > certainly tell you, keep telling the story. > > Chris. > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 24, 2025, at 5:11 PM, isaac a via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > wrote: > >  > I want to say a MASSIVE THANK YOU, to everyone who helped and supported > and adviced me in enabling me to do my first facilitation of Open Space, > for 64 Million Artists and Hull Libraries. > I've been asking for all sorts of advice over the last few months and > weeks, like "can facilitators call sessions"? "How, when, where can I > incorporate a drum circle"?...etc. > It was such an intense period of reflection and deep thought, of trying to > figure out so much. > In hindsight, I now know that there were so many unknown unknowns, and the > best way to know is to just do it, get some of it wrong and learn. > A few days prior to the event, which happened yesterday, I had the audio > recording of Harrison Owen and video of Chris Corrigan opening space, > playing in my headphones on repeat, over and over. > When it came to the event I had moments where my mind went blank. I felt I > made so many mistakes, but the feedback I got was that it went very well. > The (optional) drum circle went really well. It echoed the "whoever comes > are the right people", and it felt right as a way to celebrate together > after the closing circle. > So much learned, so much more to learn and, so grateful to have this > wonderful group of people to help, support and advice. > Thank you all, so much. > Isaac > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > > > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org
JA
Jeff Aitken
Mon, Jan 27, 2025 2:53 PM

I agree Funda. These conversations are mostly for practitioners. The "inner
workings" which can be helpful for us.

"The Power of Spirit" and "Expanding Our Now" are not words to share in the
opening circle, generally!

Jeff

On Mon, Jan 27, 2025, 2:11 AM Funda Oral via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:

I do not deny that Ost has spiritual dimensions, but I refrain from
mentioning them for many reasons. I like to explain this method and the
role of the facilitator in practical, (earthly, materialistic) terms.

My dreams are often about falling off a cliff or climbing high. I think it
is about overcoming my fears and learning to trust life.

It is so good that this method leads to sincere sharing from so many
people 🤗, thanks Harrison🙏

Funda Oral Toussaint.

27 Oca 2025 Pzt 04:02 tarihinde isaac a via OSList everyone@oslist.org
şunu yazdı:

Thanks everyone for sharing such beautiful stories and dreams.
Best wishes.
Isaac 🙏🏿❤️

From: douglasgermann douglasgermann@proton.me
Sent: 27 January 2025 01:29
To: isaac a isaac48@hotmail.com
Cc: oslist everyone@oslist.org
Subject: Re: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation

Isaac--

How about two words?

Y'all come!

:- Doug. Germann

On Sunday, January 26th, 2025 at 2:20 PM, isaac a isaac48@hotmail.com
wrote:

Creativity, Connection, Collaboration???
Hmmm, I'm struggling! 😂

From: isaac a isaac48@hotmail.com
Sent: 26 January 2025 19:18
To: douglasgermann douglasgermann@proton.me
Subject: Re: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation

Crikey! 3 words only?! That's quite the challenge!
It does feel long and wordy, but I gave myself a pass, by taking
inspiration from the annual Improbable D&D :
'What are we going to do about Theatre and the Performing Arts'.
Granted it's not as long, but...live and learn!
Maybe:
'How can we connect better to inspire new ideas, creativity and
collaborations'?

From: douglasgermann via OSList everyone@oslist.org
Sent: 26 January 2025 17:55
To: oslist everyone@oslist.org
Subject: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation

Isaac--

As to 2: How might you re-write your inviting question next time? Do you
think you might get it down to three words? How?

Overall, next time, what one less thing will you worry about?

:- Doug. Germann

On Sunday, January 26th, 2025 at 3:05 AM, isaac a via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

This might be fairly trivial or it might be deeply profound.
I've been reflecting on my first facilitation of Open Space last Friday,
and it's entered into my dreams.
In the dream and experienced OS facilitator was correcting mistakes and I
was getting very impatient because attendees were about to arrive.
I was scared they were going to unravel everything, including the main
question.
The main question was "How can curiosity and creativity inspire and
develop new ideas, and meaningful connections and collaborations"?
Although I was freaking out, there was one thing I found fascinating. He
deconstructed the sentence by picking out the words 'curiosity',
'creativity', 'connections' and 'collaborations' (and maybe one or two
others, 'ideas', maybe...) and reconstructed a number of alternative
questions by rearranging the words and offering synonyms...etc.
Deconstruction and organised reconstruction. It was beautiful, although I
was really stressed out waiting for people to arrive. It wasn't so much
about starting on time, it just felt like all my efforts would be pulled
apart, minutes before the event started
So, my questions are:

  1. Being vaguely aware of the 'magical' and 'spiritual' aspects of OS,
    does this resonate? Are there any articles I could read, or talks I could
    listen to about the more 'spiritual' aspects of OS, particularly dreams and
    dreaming.
  2. Deconstruction and reconstruction of words to craft questions. Does
    that also resonate?

... and, in writing it out, I've just realised what the dream was about.
Minutes before the event started, one of the janitors at the library
bullishly approached me about something he completely misunderstood, and I
felt like he was going to derail the event. It was actually quite
upsetting. Despite the (now apparent) obvious source of the dream, I think
there was an alchemy in turning that upset into something more
constructive, albeit frustrating.
Still, OS, dreams, spirituality...etc. and sentence construction, any
thoughts anyone?
Best wishes!
Isaac 🙏🏿❤️


From: Peggy Holman via OSList everyone@oslist.org
Sent: 25 January 2025 19:08
To: Open Space Listserv everyone@oslist.org
Subject: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation

Congratulations Isaac!

Many thanks for sharing your story. You never know who or what you will
inspire.

Peggy


Peggy Holman
peggy@peggyholman.com

Bellevue, WA  98006
206-948-0432
www.peggyholman.com

Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval
into Opportunity https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/

"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get
burnt, is to become
the fire".
-- Drew Dellinger

On Jan 24, 2025, at 6:35 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

Way to go Isaac. Keep opening space. And as Harrison would almost
certainly tell you, keep telling the story.

Chris.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 24, 2025, at 5:11 PM, isaac a via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:


I want to say a MASSIVE THANK YOU, to everyone who helped and supported
and adviced me in enabling me to do my first facilitation of Open Space,
for 64 Million Artists and Hull Libraries.
I've been asking for all sorts of advice over the last few months and
weeks, like "can facilitators call sessions"? "How, when, where can I
incorporate a drum circle"?...etc.
It was such an intense period of reflection and deep thought, of trying
to figure out so much.
In hindsight, I now know that there were so many unknown unknowns, and
the best way to know is to just do it, get some of it wrong and learn.
A few days prior to the event, which happened yesterday, I had the audio
recording of Harrison Owen and video of Chris Corrigan opening space,
playing in my headphones on repeat, over and over.
When it came to the event I had moments where my mind went blank. I felt
I made so many mistakes, but the feedback I got was that it went very well.
The (optional) drum circle went really well. It echoed the "whoever comes
are the right people", and it felt right as a way to celebrate together
after the closing circle.
So much learned, so much more to learn and, so grateful to have this
wonderful group of people to help, support and advice.
Thank you all, so much.
Isaac

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I agree Funda. These conversations are mostly for practitioners. The "inner workings" which can be helpful for us. "The Power of Spirit" and "Expanding Our Now" are not words to share in the opening circle, generally! Jeff On Mon, Jan 27, 2025, 2:11 AM Funda Oral via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > I do not deny that Ost has spiritual dimensions, but I refrain from > mentioning them for many reasons. I like to explain this method and the > role of the facilitator in practical, (earthly, materialistic) terms. > > My dreams are often about falling off a cliff or climbing high. I think it > is about overcoming my fears and learning to trust life. > > It is so good that this method leads to sincere sharing from so many > people 🤗, thanks Harrison🙏 > > Funda Oral Toussaint. > > 27 Oca 2025 Pzt 04:02 tarihinde isaac a via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > şunu yazdı: > >> Thanks everyone for sharing such beautiful stories and dreams. >> Best wishes. >> Isaac 🙏🏿❤️ >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* douglasgermann <douglasgermann@proton.me> >> *Sent:* 27 January 2025 01:29 >> *To:* isaac a <isaac48@hotmail.com> >> *Cc:* oslist <everyone@oslist.org> >> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation >> >> Isaac-- >> >> How about two words? >> >> Y'all come! >> >> :- Doug. Germann >> >> >> On Sunday, January 26th, 2025 at 2:20 PM, isaac a <isaac48@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Creativity, Connection, Collaboration??? >> Hmmm, I'm struggling! 😂 >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* isaac a <isaac48@hotmail.com> >> *Sent:* 26 January 2025 19:18 >> *To:* douglasgermann <douglasgermann@proton.me> >> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation >> >> Crikey! 3 words only?! That's quite the challenge! >> It does feel long and wordy, but I gave myself a pass, by taking >> inspiration from the annual Improbable D&D : >> 'What are we going to do about Theatre and the Performing Arts'. >> Granted it's not as long, but...live and learn! >> Maybe: >> 'How can we connect better to inspire new ideas, creativity and >> collaborations'? >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* douglasgermann via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> >> *Sent:* 26 January 2025 17:55 >> *To:* oslist <everyone@oslist.org> >> *Subject:* [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation >> >> Isaac-- >> >> As to 2: How might you re-write your inviting question next time? Do you >> think you might get it down to three words? How? >> >> Overall, next time, what one less thing will you worry about? >> >> :- Doug. Germann >> >> >> >> On Sunday, January 26th, 2025 at 3:05 AM, isaac a via OSList < >> everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >> >> This might be fairly trivial or it might be deeply profound. >> I've been reflecting on my first facilitation of Open Space last Friday, >> and it's entered into my dreams. >> In the dream and experienced OS facilitator was correcting mistakes and I >> was getting very impatient because attendees were about to arrive. >> I was scared they were going to unravel everything, including the main >> question. >> The main question was "How can curiosity and creativity inspire and >> develop new ideas, and meaningful connections and collaborations"? >> Although I was freaking out, there was one thing I found fascinating. He >> deconstructed the sentence by picking out the words 'curiosity', >> 'creativity', 'connections' and 'collaborations' (and maybe one or two >> others, 'ideas', maybe...) and reconstructed a number of alternative >> questions by rearranging the words and offering synonyms...etc. >> Deconstruction and organised reconstruction. It was beautiful, although I >> was really stressed out waiting for people to arrive. It wasn't so much >> about starting on time, it just felt like all my efforts would be pulled >> apart, minutes before the event started >> So, my questions are: >> 1. Being vaguely aware of the 'magical' and 'spiritual' aspects of OS, >> does this resonate? Are there any articles I could read, or talks I could >> listen to about the more 'spiritual' aspects of OS, particularly dreams and >> dreaming. >> 2. Deconstruction and reconstruction of words to craft questions. Does >> that also resonate? >> >> ... and, in writing it out, I've just realised what the dream was about. >> Minutes before the event started, one of the janitors at the library >> bullishly approached me about something he completely misunderstood, and I >> felt like he was going to derail the event. It was actually quite >> upsetting. Despite the (now apparent) obvious source of the dream, I think >> there was an alchemy in turning that upset into something more >> constructive, albeit frustrating. >> Still, OS, dreams, spirituality...etc. and sentence construction, any >> thoughts anyone? >> Best wishes! >> Isaac 🙏🏿❤️ >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> >> *Sent:* 25 January 2025 19:08 >> *To:* Open Space Listserv <everyone@oslist.org> >> *Subject:* [OSList] Re: My first Open Space Facilitation >> >> Congratulations Isaac! >> >> Many thanks for sharing your story. You never know who or what you will >> inspire. >> >> Peggy >> >> >> _________________________________ >> Peggy Holman >> peggy@peggyholman.com >> >> Bellevue, WA 98006 >> 206-948-0432 >> www.peggyholman.com >> >> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval >> into Opportunity <https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> >> >> "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get >> burnt, is to become >> the fire". >> -- Drew Dellinger >> >> >> >> On Jan 24, 2025, at 6:35 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList < >> everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >> >> Way to go Isaac. Keep opening space. And as Harrison would almost >> certainly tell you, keep telling the story. >> >> Chris. >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 24, 2025, at 5:11 PM, isaac a via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> >> wrote: >> >>  >> I want to say a MASSIVE THANK YOU, to everyone who helped and supported >> and adviced me in enabling me to do my first facilitation of Open Space, >> for 64 Million Artists and Hull Libraries. >> I've been asking for all sorts of advice over the last few months and >> weeks, like "can facilitators call sessions"? "How, when, where can I >> incorporate a drum circle"?...etc. >> It was such an intense period of reflection and deep thought, of trying >> to figure out so much. >> In hindsight, I now know that there were so many unknown unknowns, and >> the best way to know is to just do it, get some of it wrong and learn. >> A few days prior to the event, which happened yesterday, I had the audio >> recording of Harrison Owen and video of Chris Corrigan opening space, >> playing in my headphones on repeat, over and over. >> When it came to the event I had moments where my mind went blank. I felt >> I made so many mistakes, but the feedback I got was that it went very well. >> The (optional) drum circle went really well. It echoed the "whoever comes >> are the right people", and it felt right as a way to celebrate together >> after the closing circle. >> So much learned, so much more to learn and, so grateful to have this >> wonderful group of people to help, support and advice. >> Thank you all, so much. >> Isaac >> >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >> See the archives here: >> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >> >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >> See the archives here: >> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org >> >> >> >> >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >> See the archives here: >> https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org