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Phelim McDermott
Tue, Mar 21, 2023 3:48 AM

 Dear Open Space friends…

If it weren’t for deep democracy and Arny Mindell’s work I would never have come across Open Space Technology. Here is a show I made with Philip Glass that opens space and speaks of Taoism. It’s my story of how his music inspired me and how deep democracy is essential to the world. It’s about how music can open space to deeper levels of connection. Anyone who is in North Carolina or New York do come and see us and say hello over the next few weeks.

Tao-of-Glass_Tristram_Hero-scaled-e1668008030747-1024x591.jpgTao of Glass

carolinaperformingarts.org

Spring-2023-web-banners-update2-scaled.jpgPhelim McDermott & Philip Glass: Tao of Glass | NYU Skirball Center

nyuskirball.org

Lots of love

Phelim x

Best regards,

Phelim McDermott


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Bhavesh Patel
Tue, Mar 21, 2023 8:53 AM

I saw it in Manchester, it was amazing at so many levels, and somehow
continued working inside me for weeks... I would love to see it again...

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 05:49, Phelim McDermott via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

 Dear Open Space friends…

If it weren’t for deep democracy and Arny Mindell’s work I would never
have come across Open Space Technology. Here is a show I made with Philip
Glass that opens space and speaks of Taoism. It’s my story of how his music
inspired me and how deep democracy is essential to the world. It’s about
how music can open space to deeper levels of connection. Anyone who is in
North Carolina or New York do come and see us and say hello over the next
few weeks.

[image: Tao-of-Glass_Tristram_Hero-scaled-e1668008030747-1024x591.jpg]

Tao of Glass https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/
carolinaperformingarts.org
https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/
https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/

[image: Spring-2023-web-banners-update2-scaled.jpg]

Phelim McDermott & Philip Glass: Tao of Glass | NYU Skirball Center
https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/
nyuskirball.org https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/
https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/

Lots of love

Phelim x

Best regards,

Phelim McDermott

I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the working
day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent
please call me on 07956 187298.
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I saw it in Manchester, it was amazing at so many levels, and somehow continued working inside me for weeks... I would love to see it again... On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 05:49, Phelim McDermott via OSList < everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >  Dear Open Space friends… > > If it weren’t for deep democracy and Arny Mindell’s work I would never > have come across Open Space Technology. Here is a show I made with Philip > Glass that opens space and speaks of Taoism. It’s my story of how his music > inspired me and how deep democracy is essential to the world. It’s about > how music can open space to deeper levels of connection. Anyone who is in > North Carolina or New York do come and see us and say hello over the next > few weeks. > > [image: Tao-of-Glass_Tristram_Hero-scaled-e1668008030747-1024x591.jpg] > > Tao of Glass <https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/> > carolinaperformingarts.org > <https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/> > <https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/> > > [image: Spring-2023-web-banners-update2-scaled.jpg] > > Phelim McDermott & Philip Glass: Tao of Glass | NYU Skirball Center > <https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/> > nyuskirball.org <https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/> > <https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/> > > > Lots of love > > Phelim x > > Best regards, > > Phelim McDermott > ----------------------------- > I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the working > day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent > please call me on 07956 187298. > ___________________///////////// > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >
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JF
Tue, Mar 21, 2023 9:12 AM

Wow that's sounds amazing. Too bad I am on the other side of the ocean. As
a musician myself I can totally relate.
It is amazing how OST have inspired so many and has ramifications all over
the world.
I was in several conferences over the last few weeks about facilitation,
shared governance, new ways of working etc...
At all of those events OST or some of its principles (laws of 2 feet for
instance) were mentioned several times in a matter of fact kind of way.
Many people beyond this group have integrated OST in the work they do. It
is now part of the practice of many professionals and organisations. It may
have been adapted, transformed, enhanced (with music as in the work of
Phelim) but I believe the spirit endures. Maybe because it was always there
and has, indeed, been remembered. Now it cannot be undone!

On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 9:54 AM Bhavesh Patel via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

I saw it in Manchester, it was amazing at so many levels, and somehow
continued working inside me for weeks... I would love to see it again...

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 05:49, Phelim McDermott via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

 Dear Open Space friends…

If it weren’t for deep democracy and Arny Mindell’s work I would never
have come across Open Space Technology. Here is a show I made with Philip
Glass that opens space and speaks of Taoism. It’s my story of how his music
inspired me and how deep democracy is essential to the world. It’s about
how music can open space to deeper levels of connection. Anyone who is in
North Carolina or New York do come and see us and say hello over the next
few weeks.

[image: Tao-of-Glass_Tristram_Hero-scaled-e1668008030747-1024x591.jpg]

Tao of Glass https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/
carolinaperformingarts.org
https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/
https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/

[image: Spring-2023-web-banners-update2-scaled.jpg]

Phelim McDermott & Philip Glass: Tao of Glass | NYU Skirball Center
https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/
nyuskirball.org https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/
https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/

Lots of love

Phelim x

Best regards,

Phelim McDermott

I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the working
day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent
please call me on 07956 187298.
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Wow that's sounds amazing. Too bad I am on the other side of the ocean. As a musician myself I can totally relate. It is amazing how OST have inspired so many and has ramifications all over the world. I was in several conferences over the last few weeks about facilitation, shared governance, new ways of working etc... At all of those events OST or some of its principles (laws of 2 feet for instance) were mentioned several times in a matter of fact kind of way. Many people beyond this group have integrated OST in the work they do. It is now part of the practice of many professionals and organisations. It may have been adapted, transformed, enhanced (with music as in the work of Phelim) but I believe the spirit endures. Maybe because it was always there and has, indeed, been remembered. Now it cannot be undone! On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 9:54 AM Bhavesh Patel via OSList < everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > I saw it in Manchester, it was amazing at so many levels, and somehow > continued working inside me for weeks... I would love to see it again... > > On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 05:49, Phelim McDermott via OSList < > everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > >>  Dear Open Space friends… >> >> If it weren’t for deep democracy and Arny Mindell’s work I would never >> have come across Open Space Technology. Here is a show I made with Philip >> Glass that opens space and speaks of Taoism. It’s my story of how his music >> inspired me and how deep democracy is essential to the world. It’s about >> how music can open space to deeper levels of connection. Anyone who is in >> North Carolina or New York do come and see us and say hello over the next >> few weeks. >> >> [image: Tao-of-Glass_Tristram_Hero-scaled-e1668008030747-1024x591.jpg] >> >> Tao of Glass <https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/> >> carolinaperformingarts.org >> <https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/> >> <https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/> >> >> [image: Spring-2023-web-banners-update2-scaled.jpg] >> >> Phelim McDermott & Philip Glass: Tao of Glass | NYU Skirball Center >> <https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/> >> nyuskirball.org <https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/> >> <https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/> >> >> >> Lots of love >> >> Phelim x >> >> Best regards, >> >> Phelim McDermott >> ----------------------------- >> I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the working >> day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent >> please call me on 07956 187298. >> ___________________///////////// >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >> > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >
CL
Chuni Li
Sat, Mar 25, 2023 11:31 PM

I have bought tickets for the NYU performance and will bring friends too.
Looking forward to it Phelim!

I also went to your Cosi Fan Tutte at Lincoln Center in 2018.
I have been so impressed by your creativity since the WOSONOS in London.

Chuni

On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 11:50 PM Phelim McDermott via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

 Dear Open Space friends…

If it weren’t for deep democracy and Arny Mindell’s work I would never
have come across Open Space Technology. Here is a show I made with Philip
Glass that opens space and speaks of Taoism. It’s my story of how his music
inspired me and how deep democracy is essential to the world. It’s about
how music can open space to deeper levels of connection. Anyone who is in
North Carolina or New York do come and see us and say hello over the next
few weeks.

[image: Tao-of-Glass_Tristram_Hero-scaled-e1668008030747-1024x591.jpg]

Tao of Glass https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/
carolinaperformingarts.org
https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/
https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/

[image: Spring-2023-web-banners-update2-scaled.jpg]

Phelim McDermott & Philip Glass: Tao of Glass | NYU Skirball Center
https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/
nyuskirball.org https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/
https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/

Lots of love

Phelim x

Best regards,

Phelim McDermott

I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the working
day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent
please call me on 07956 187298.
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I have bought tickets for the NYU performance and will bring friends too. Looking forward to it Phelim! I also went to your Cosi Fan Tutte at Lincoln Center in 2018. I have been so impressed by your creativity since the WOSONOS in London. Chuni On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 11:50 PM Phelim McDermott via OSList < everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >  Dear Open Space friends… > > If it weren’t for deep democracy and Arny Mindell’s work I would never > have come across Open Space Technology. Here is a show I made with Philip > Glass that opens space and speaks of Taoism. It’s my story of how his music > inspired me and how deep democracy is essential to the world. It’s about > how music can open space to deeper levels of connection. Anyone who is in > North Carolina or New York do come and see us and say hello over the next > few weeks. > > [image: Tao-of-Glass_Tristram_Hero-scaled-e1668008030747-1024x591.jpg] > > Tao of Glass <https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/> > carolinaperformingarts.org > <https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/> > <https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/> > > [image: Spring-2023-web-banners-update2-scaled.jpg] > > Phelim McDermott & Philip Glass: Tao of Glass | NYU Skirball Center > <https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/> > nyuskirball.org <https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/> > <https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/> > > > Lots of love > > Phelim x > > Best regards, > > Phelim McDermott > ----------------------------- > I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the working > day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent > please call me on 07956 187298. > ___________________///////////// > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >
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Magdalena V. Hurwitz
Mon, Apr 3, 2023 7:25 PM

Glad to hear about another person on this list connecting Processwork/Deep
Democracy of Arnold Mindell with OST. Actually, I found the two approaches
during separate times in my learning. I have found both very informative
for my work over the decades. Currently, I am involved in a watershed
education and restoration program that focuses on creating partnerships
between tribal peoples and the current private landowners, and in a couple
of years we expect for this to expand to a community level. Much
preparation to go through before that can happen, but I'm feeling much more
confident than I might have if I didn't have a few tools like OST and Deep
Democracy in my toolkit!

You might also be interested in the callings for a forum along these lines
in  Not-Two Is Peace: The Ordinary Peoples Way of Global Cooperative Order.
by World Friend Adi Da, by World Friend Adi Da, with an introduction by
Ervin Laszlo, the scientist and philisopher.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 8:51 PM Phelim McDermott via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

 Dear Open Space friends…

If it weren’t for deep democracy and Arny Mindell’s work I would never
have come across Open Space Technology. Here is a show I made with Philip
Glass that opens space and speaks of Taoism. It’s my story of how his music
inspired me and how deep democracy is essential to the world. It’s about
how music can open space to deeper levels of connection. Anyone who is in
North Carolina or New York do come and see us and say hello over the next
few weeks.

[image: Tao-of-Glass_Tristram_Hero-scaled-e1668008030747-1024x591.jpg]

Tao of Glass https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/
carolinaperformingarts.org
https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/
https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/

[image: Spring-2023-web-banners-update2-scaled.jpg]

Phelim McDermott & Philip Glass: Tao of Glass | NYU Skirball Center
https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/
nyuskirball.org https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/
https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/

Lots of love

Phelim x

Best regards,

Phelim McDermott

I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the working
day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent
please call me on 07956 187298.
___________________/////////////

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Glad to hear about another person on this list connecting Processwork/Deep Democracy of Arnold Mindell with OST. Actually, I found the two approaches during separate times in my learning. I have found both very informative for my work over the decades. Currently, I am involved in a watershed education and restoration program that focuses on creating partnerships between tribal peoples and the current private landowners, and in a couple of years we expect for this to expand to a community level. Much preparation to go through before that can happen, but I'm feeling much more confident than I might have if I didn't have a few tools like OST and Deep Democracy in my toolkit! You might also be interested in the callings for a forum along these lines in Not-Two Is Peace: The Ordinary Peoples Way of Global Cooperative Order. by World Friend Adi Da, by World Friend Adi Da, with an introduction by Ervin Laszlo, the scientist and philisopher. On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 8:51 PM Phelim McDermott via OSList < everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >  Dear Open Space friends… > > If it weren’t for deep democracy and Arny Mindell’s work I would never > have come across Open Space Technology. Here is a show I made with Philip > Glass that opens space and speaks of Taoism. It’s my story of how his music > inspired me and how deep democracy is essential to the world. It’s about > how music can open space to deeper levels of connection. Anyone who is in > North Carolina or New York do come and see us and say hello over the next > few weeks. > > [image: Tao-of-Glass_Tristram_Hero-scaled-e1668008030747-1024x591.jpg] > > Tao of Glass <https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/> > carolinaperformingarts.org > <https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/> > <https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/> > > [image: Spring-2023-web-banners-update2-scaled.jpg] > > Phelim McDermott & Philip Glass: Tao of Glass | NYU Skirball Center > <https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/> > nyuskirball.org <https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/> > <https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/> > > > Lots of love > > Phelim x > > Best regards, > > Phelim McDermott > ----------------------------- > I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the working > day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent > please call me on 07956 187298. > ___________________///////////// > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >
JY
Jake Yeager
Mon, Apr 3, 2023 9:50 PM

Any recommended resources on Deep Democracy? I'm not familiar with it.
Thanks!

On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 3:27 PM Magdalena V. Hurwitz via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

Glad to hear about another person on this list connecting Processwork/Deep
Democracy of Arnold Mindell with OST. Actually, I found the two approaches
during separate times in my learning. I have found both very informative
for my work over the decades. Currently, I am involved in a watershed
education and restoration program that focuses on creating partnerships
between tribal peoples and the current private landowners, and in a couple
of years we expect for this to expand to a community level. Much
preparation to go through before that can happen, but I'm feeling much more
confident than I might have if I didn't have a few tools like OST and Deep
Democracy in my toolkit!

You might also be interested in the callings for a forum along these lines
in  Not-Two Is Peace: The Ordinary Peoples Way of Global Cooperative
Order. by World Friend Adi Da, by World Friend Adi Da, with an
introduction by Ervin Laszlo, the scientist and philisopher.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 8:51 PM Phelim McDermott via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

 Dear Open Space friends…

If it weren’t for deep democracy and Arny Mindell’s work I would never
have come across Open Space Technology. Here is a show I made with Philip
Glass that opens space and speaks of Taoism. It’s my story of how his music
inspired me and how deep democracy is essential to the world. It’s about
how music can open space to deeper levels of connection. Anyone who is in
North Carolina or New York do come and see us and say hello over the next
few weeks.

[image: Tao-of-Glass_Tristram_Hero-scaled-e1668008030747-1024x591.jpg]

Tao of Glass https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/
carolinaperformingarts.org
https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/
https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/

[image: Spring-2023-web-banners-update2-scaled.jpg]

Phelim McDermott & Philip Glass: Tao of Glass | NYU Skirball Center
https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/
nyuskirball.org https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/
https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/

Lots of love

Phelim x

Best regards,

Phelim McDermott

I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the working
day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent
please call me on 07956 187298.
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Any recommended resources on Deep Democracy? I'm not familiar with it. Thanks! On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 3:27 PM Magdalena V. Hurwitz via OSList < everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > Glad to hear about another person on this list connecting Processwork/Deep > Democracy of Arnold Mindell with OST. Actually, I found the two approaches > during separate times in my learning. I have found both very informative > for my work over the decades. Currently, I am involved in a watershed > education and restoration program that focuses on creating partnerships > between tribal peoples and the current private landowners, and in a couple > of years we expect for this to expand to a community level. Much > preparation to go through before that can happen, but I'm feeling much more > confident than I might have if I didn't have a few tools like OST and Deep > Democracy in my toolkit! > > You might also be interested in the callings for a forum along these lines > in Not-Two Is Peace: The Ordinary Peoples Way of Global Cooperative > Order. by World Friend Adi Da, by World Friend Adi Da, with an > introduction by Ervin Laszlo, the scientist and philisopher. > > > > On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 8:51 PM Phelim McDermott via OSList < > everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > >>  Dear Open Space friends… >> >> If it weren’t for deep democracy and Arny Mindell’s work I would never >> have come across Open Space Technology. Here is a show I made with Philip >> Glass that opens space and speaks of Taoism. It’s my story of how his music >> inspired me and how deep democracy is essential to the world. It’s about >> how music can open space to deeper levels of connection. Anyone who is in >> North Carolina or New York do come and see us and say hello over the next >> few weeks. >> >> [image: Tao-of-Glass_Tristram_Hero-scaled-e1668008030747-1024x591.jpg] >> >> Tao of Glass <https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/> >> carolinaperformingarts.org >> <https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/> >> <https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/> >> >> [image: Spring-2023-web-banners-update2-scaled.jpg] >> >> Phelim McDermott & Philip Glass: Tao of Glass | NYU Skirball Center >> <https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/> >> nyuskirball.org <https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/> >> <https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/> >> >> >> Lots of love >> >> Phelim x >> >> Best regards, >> >> Phelim McDermott >> ----------------------------- >> I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the working >> day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent >> please call me on 07956 187298. >> ___________________///////////// >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org >> > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > -- There is only the constant and unknowable wonder of being. - Tony Parsons Sent from a mobile
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Harrison Owen
Tue, Apr 4, 2023 2:03 PM

Go to the source -- Arnie 
https://www.amazon.com/Deep-Democracy-Open-Forums-Prevention/dp/1571742301/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3GHSXQTIH2CW9&keywords=deep+democracy&qid=1680616859&sprefix=deep+democracy%2Caps%2C88&sr=8-1
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Any recommended resources on Deep Democracy? I'm not familiar with it. Thanks!
On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 3:27 PM Magdalena V. Hurwitz via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:

Glad to hear about another person on this list connecting Processwork/Deep Democracy of Arnold Mindell with OST. Actually, I found the two approaches during separate times in my learning. I have found both very informative for my work over the decades. Currently, I am involved in a watershed education and restoration program that focuses on creating partnerships between tribal peoples and the current private landowners, and in a couple of years we expect for this to expand to a community level. Much preparation to go through before that can happen, but I'm feeling much more confident than I might have if I didn't have a few tools like OST and Deep Democracy in my toolkit!

You might also be interested in the callings for a forum along these lines in Not-Two Is Peace: The Ordinary Peoples Way of Global Cooperative Order. by World Friend Adi Da, by World Friend Adi Da, with an introduction by Ervin Laszlo, the scientist and philisopher.  

On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 8:51 PM Phelim McDermott via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:

 Dear Open Space friends…
If it weren’t for deep democracy and Arny Mindell’s work I would never have come across Open Space Technology. Here is a show I made with Philip Glass that opens space and speaks of Taoism. It’s my story of how his music inspired me and how deep democracy is essential to the world. It’s about how music can open space to deeper levels of connection. Anyone who is in North Carolina or New York do come and see us and say hello over the next few weeks.

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Lots of love 

Phelim x
Best regards,
Phelim McDermott----------------------------- I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the working day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent please call me on 07956 187298. ___________________/////////////

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Go to the source -- Arnie  https://www.amazon.com/Deep-Democracy-Open-Forums-Prevention/dp/1571742301/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3GHSXQTIH2CW9&keywords=deep+democracy&qid=1680616859&sprefix=deep+democracy%2Caps%2C88&sr=8-1 ho -----Original Message----- From: Jake Yeager via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> To: everyone@oslist.org Sent: Mon, Apr 3, 2023 5:50 pm Subject: [OSList] Re: Tao of Glass and Deep Democracy Any recommended resources on Deep Democracy? I'm not familiar with it. Thanks! On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 3:27 PM Magdalena V. Hurwitz via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: Glad to hear about another person on this list connecting Processwork/Deep Democracy of Arnold Mindell with OST. Actually, I found the two approaches during separate times in my learning. I have found both very informative for my work over the decades. Currently, I am involved in a watershed education and restoration program that focuses on creating partnerships between tribal peoples and the current private landowners, and in a couple of years we expect for this to expand to a community level. Much preparation to go through before that can happen, but I'm feeling much more confident than I might have if I didn't have a few tools like OST and Deep Democracy in my toolkit! You might also be interested in the callings for a forum along these lines in Not-Two Is Peace: The Ordinary Peoples Way of Global Cooperative Order. by World Friend Adi Da, by World Friend Adi Da, with an introduction by Ervin Laszlo, the scientist and philisopher.   On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 8:51 PM Phelim McDermott via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote:  Dear Open Space friends… If it weren’t for deep democracy and Arny Mindell’s work I would never have come across Open Space Technology. Here is a show I made with Philip Glass that opens space and speaks of Taoism. It’s my story of how his music inspired me and how deep democracy is essential to the world. It’s about how music can open space to deeper levels of connection. Anyone who is in North Carolina or New York do come and see us and say hello over the next few weeks. | | | | Tao of Glasscarolinaperformingarts.org | | | | | | Phelim McDermott & Philip Glass: Tao of Glass | NYU Skirball Centernyuskirball.org | | Lots of love  Phelim x Best regards, Phelim McDermott----------------------------- I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the working day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent please call me on 07956 187298. ___________________///////////// Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org -- There is only the constant and unknowable wonder of being. - Tony Parsons Sent from a mobile_______________________________________________ OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org
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Phelim McDermott
Tue, Apr 4, 2023 2:19 PM

Re Deep democracy

Arnold Mindell’s books:

The best initial introduction is The Leader as martial artist. And “The year one” is where the initial work was developed and Arny’s vision of a connected world: “Better than conflict more exciting than peace” For the study of “worldwork” the major ook would be “sitting in the fire“ which recounts many interesting stories of intense worldwork processes. Deep Democracy of open forums is To Worldwork as World cafe is to OST. .. More Polite.

For an up to date exploration of the seasons and phases of conflict processes the latest book “conflict phases forums and solutions” is up to date with Arny’s recent thinking and guides when to do worldwork and when to leave well alone!

Lots of interesting stuff from Arny and Amy’s website

Amy and Arnold Mindell

aamindell.net

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Hey all from NYC at the bottom of the Deep Democracy Cone currently performing my show where i explain deep democracy :)

Spring-2023-web-banners-update2-scaled.jpgPhelim McDermott & Philip Glass: Tao of Glass | NYU Skirball Center

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On 4 Apr 2023, at 10:04, Harrison Owen via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

Go to the source -- Arnie

https://www.amazon.com/Deep-Democracy-Open-Forums-Prevention/dp/1571742301/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3GHSXQTIH2CW9&keywords=deep+democracy&qid=1680616859&sprefix=deep+democracy%2Caps%2C88&sr=8-1

ho

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Any recommended resources on Deep Democracy? I'm not familiar with it. Thanks!

On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 3:27 PM Magdalena V. Hurwitz via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

Glad to hear about another person on this list connecting Processwork/Deep Democracy of Arnold Mindell with OST. Actually, I found the two approaches during separate times in my learning. I have found both very informative for my work over the decades. Currently, I am involved in a watershed education and restoration program that focuses on creating partnerships between tribal peoples and the current private landowners, and in a couple of years we expect for this to expand to a community level. Much preparation to go through before that can happen, but I'm feeling much more confident than I might have if I didn't have a few tools like OST and Deep Democracy in my toolkit!

You might also be interested in the callings for a forum along these lines in Not-Two Is Peace: The Ordinary Peoples Way of Global Cooperative Order. by World Friend Adi Da, by World Friend Adi Da, with an introduction by Ervin Laszlo, the scientist and philisopher.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 8:51 PM Phelim McDermott via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

 Dear Open Space friends…

If it weren’t for deep democracy and Arny Mindell’s work I would never have come across Open Space Technology. Here is a show I made with Philip Glass that opens space and speaks of Taoism. It’s my story of how his music inspired me and how deep democracy is essential to the world. It’s about how music can open space to deeper levels of connection. Anyone who is in North Carolina or New York do come and see us and say hello over the next few weeks.

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Tao of Glass

carolinaperformingarts.org

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Phelim McDermott & Philip Glass: Tao of Glass | NYU Skirball Center

nyuskirball.org

Lots of love

Phelim x

Best regards,

Phelim McDermott


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Wed, Apr 5, 2023 4:35 AM

and another, who actually introduced me to OST in late '80s "Laird's" approach:https://www.ic.org/event/managing-the-moment-when-conflict-first-emerges/?utm_source=Foundation+for+Intentional+Community&utm_campaign=c6ee60de19-Participation+course+%2B+teaser+2%2F24%2F23_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-667e093893-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D&mc_cid=c6ee60de19&mc_eid=a2cab245dewho uses the energetic or emotional charge early in process to reveal Mindell's "deeper democracy of open forums"rather than damage/dominate, have it participate, rather then fear it or suppress, befriend, utilize.- -Chad-----Original Message-----
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Go to the source -- Arnie 
https://www.amazon.com/Deep-Democracy-Open-Forums-Prevention/dp/1571742301/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3GHSXQTIH2CW9&keywords=deep+democracy&qid=1680616859&sprefix=deep+democracy%2Caps%2C88&sr=8-1
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Any recommended resources on Deep Democracy? I'm not familiar with it. Thanks!
On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 3:27 PM Magdalena V. Hurwitz via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:

Glad to hear about another person on this list connecting Processwork/Deep Democracy of Arnold Mindell with OST. Actually, I found the two approaches during separate times in my learning. I have found both very informative for my work over the decades. Currently, I am involved in a watershed education and restoration program that focuses on creating partnerships between tribal peoples and the current private landowners, and in a couple of years we expect for this to expand to a community level. Much preparation to go through before that can happen, but I'm feeling much more confident than I might have if I didn't have a few tools like OST and Deep Democracy in my toolkit!

You might also be interested in the callings for a forum along these lines in Not-Two Is Peace: The Ordinary Peoples Way of Global Cooperative Order. by World Friend Adi Da, by World Friend Adi Da, with an introduction by Ervin Laszlo, the scientist and philisopher.  

On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 8:51 PM Phelim McDermott via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:

 Dear Open Space friends…
If it weren’t for deep democracy and Arny Mindell’s work I would never have come across Open Space Technology. Here is a show I made with Philip Glass that opens space and speaks of Taoism. It’s my story of how his music inspired me and how deep democracy is essential to the world. It’s about how music can open space to deeper levels of connection. Anyone who is in North Carolina or New York do come and see us and say hello over the next few weeks.

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| Phelim McDermott & Philip Glass: Tao of Glass | NYU Skirball Centernyuskirball.org |

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Lots of love 

Phelim x
Best regards,
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and another, who actually introduced me to OST in late '80s "Laird's" approach:https://www.ic.org/event/managing-the-moment-when-conflict-first-emerges/?utm_source=Foundation+for+Intentional+Community&utm_campaign=c6ee60de19-Participation+course+%2B+teaser+2%2F24%2F23_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-667e093893-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D&mc_cid=c6ee60de19&mc_eid=a2cab245dewho uses the energetic or emotional charge early in process to reveal Mindell's "deeper democracy of open forums"rather than damage/dominate, have it participate, rather then fear it or suppress, befriend, utilize.- -Chad-----Original Message----- From: Harrison Owen via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> To: everyone@oslist.org <everyone@oslist.org> Sent: Tue, Apr 4, 2023 10:05 am Subject: [OSList] Re: Tao of Glass and Deep Democracy Go to the source -- Arnie  https://www.amazon.com/Deep-Democracy-Open-Forums-Prevention/dp/1571742301/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3GHSXQTIH2CW9&keywords=deep+democracy&qid=1680616859&sprefix=deep+democracy%2Caps%2C88&sr=8-1 ho -----Original Message----- From: Jake Yeager via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> To: everyone@oslist.org Sent: Mon, Apr 3, 2023 5:50 pm Subject: [OSList] Re: Tao of Glass and Deep Democracy Any recommended resources on Deep Democracy? I'm not familiar with it. Thanks! On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 3:27 PM Magdalena V. Hurwitz via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: Glad to hear about another person on this list connecting Processwork/Deep Democracy of Arnold Mindell with OST. Actually, I found the two approaches during separate times in my learning. I have found both very informative for my work over the decades. Currently, I am involved in a watershed education and restoration program that focuses on creating partnerships between tribal peoples and the current private landowners, and in a couple of years we expect for this to expand to a community level. Much preparation to go through before that can happen, but I'm feeling much more confident than I might have if I didn't have a few tools like OST and Deep Democracy in my toolkit! You might also be interested in the callings for a forum along these lines in Not-Two Is Peace: The Ordinary Peoples Way of Global Cooperative Order. by World Friend Adi Da, by World Friend Adi Da, with an introduction by Ervin Laszlo, the scientist and philisopher.   On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 8:51 PM Phelim McDermott via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote:  Dear Open Space friends… If it weren’t for deep democracy and Arny Mindell’s work I would never have come across Open Space Technology. Here is a show I made with Philip Glass that opens space and speaks of Taoism. It’s my story of how his music inspired me and how deep democracy is essential to the world. It’s about how music can open space to deeper levels of connection. Anyone who is in North Carolina or New York do come and see us and say hello over the next few weeks. | | | | Tao of Glasscarolinaperformingarts.org | | | | | | Phelim McDermott & Philip Glass: Tao of Glass | NYU Skirball Centernyuskirball.org | | Lots of love  Phelim x Best regards, Phelim McDermott----------------------------- I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the working day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent please call me on 07956 187298. ___________________///////////// Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org -- There is only the constant and unknowable wonder of being. - Tony Parsons Sent from a mobile_______________________________________________ OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org
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MCtheMC
Tue, Apr 11, 2023 3:28 AM

If this worked there would be no conflicts. The powerful seek conflict and there isn't a freaking thing we can do about it... other than to rearrange the deck chairs and gin up the music...

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On Tuesday, April 4th, 2023 at 10:35 PM, C. Fuller via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:

and another, who actually introduced me to OST in late '80s "Laird's" approach:
https://www.ic.org/event/managing-the-moment-when-conflict-first-emerges/?utm_source=Foundation+for+Intentional+Community&utm_campaign=c6ee60de19-Participation+course+%2B+teaser+2%2F24%2F23_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-667e093893-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D&mc_cid=c6ee60de19&mc_eid=a2cab245de
who uses the energetic or emotional charge early in process to reveal Mindell's "deeper democracy of open forums"
rather than damage/dominate, have it participate, rather then fear it or suppress, befriend, utilize.

  • -Chad

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Go to the source -- Arnie

https://www.amazon.com/Deep-Democracy-Open-Forums-Prevention/dp/1571742301/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3GHSXQTIH2CW9&keywords=deep+democracy&qid=1680616859&sprefix=deep+democracy%2Caps%2C88&sr=8-1

ho

-----Original Message-----
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Any recommended resources on Deep Democracy? I'm not familiar with it. Thanks!

On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 3:27 PM Magdalena V. Hurwitz via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:

Glad to hear about another person on this list connecting Processwork/Deep Democracy of Arnold Mindell with OST. Actually, I found the two approaches during separate times in my learning. I have found both very informative for my work over the decades. Currently, I am involved in a watershed education and restoration program that focuses on creating partnerships between tribal peoples and the current private landowners, and in a couple of years we expect for this to expand to a community level. Much preparation to go through before that can happen, but I'm feeling much more confident than I might have if I didn't have a few tools like OST and Deep Democracy in my toolkit!

You might also be interested in the callings for a forum along these lines in Not-Two Is Peace: The Ordinary Peoples Way of Global Cooperative Order. by World Friend Adi Da, by World Friend Adi Da, with an introduction by Ervin Laszlo, the scientist and philisopher.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 8:51 PM Phelim McDermott via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:

 Dear Open Space friends…

If it weren’t for deep democracy and Arny Mindell’s work I would never have come across Open Space Technology. Here is a show I made with Philip Glass that opens space and speaks of Taoism. It’s my story of how his music inspired me and how deep democracy is essential to the world. It’s about how music can open space to deeper levels of connection. Anyone who is in North Carolina or New York do come and see us and say hello over the next few weeks.

https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/
[null]

Tao of Glass
carolinaperformingarts.org

https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/
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Phelim McDermott & Philip Glass: Tao of Glass | NYU Skirball Center
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Lots of love

Phelim x

Best regards,

Phelim McDermott

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Fuller via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > and another, who actually introduced me to OST in late '80s "Laird's" approach: > https://www.ic.org/event/managing-the-moment-when-conflict-first-emerges/?utm_source=Foundation+for+Intentional+Community&utm_campaign=c6ee60de19-Participation+course+%2B+teaser+2%2F24%2F23_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-667e093893-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D&mc_cid=c6ee60de19&mc_eid=a2cab245de > who uses the energetic or emotional charge early in process to reveal Mindell's "deeper democracy of open forums" > rather than damage/dominate, have it participate, rather then fear it or suppress, befriend, utilize. > - -Chad > --------------------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: Harrison Owen via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > To: everyone@oslist.org <everyone@oslist.org> > Sent: Tue, Apr 4, 2023 10:05 am > Subject: [OSList] Re: Tao of Glass and Deep Democracy > Go to the source -- Arnie > > https://www.amazon.com/Deep-Democracy-Open-Forums-Prevention/dp/1571742301/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3GHSXQTIH2CW9&keywords=deep+democracy&qid=1680616859&sprefix=deep+democracy%2Caps%2C88&sr=8-1 > > ho > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jake Yeager via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> > To: everyone@oslist.org > Sent: Mon, Apr 3, 2023 5:50 pm > Subject: [OSList] Re: Tao of Glass and Deep Democracy > > Any recommended resources on Deep Democracy? I'm not familiar with it. Thanks! > > On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 3:27 PM Magdalena V. Hurwitz via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: > >> Glad to hear about another person on this list connecting Processwork/Deep Democracy of Arnold Mindell with OST. Actually, I found the two approaches during separate times in my learning. I have found both very informative for my work over the decades. Currently, I am involved in a watershed education and restoration program that focuses on creating partnerships between tribal peoples and the current private landowners, and in a couple of years we expect for this to expand to a community level. Much preparation to go through before that can happen, but I'm feeling much more confident than I might have if I didn't have a few tools like OST and Deep Democracy in my toolkit! >> >> You might also be interested in the callings for a forum along these lines in Not-Two Is Peace: The Ordinary Peoples Way of Global Cooperative Order. by World Friend Adi Da, by World Friend Adi Da, with an introduction by Ervin Laszlo, the scientist and philisopher. >> >> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 8:51 PM Phelim McDermott via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: >> >>>  Dear Open Space friends… >>> >>> If it weren’t for deep democracy and Arny Mindell’s work I would never have come across Open Space Technology. Here is a show I made with Philip Glass that opens space and speaks of Taoism. It’s my story of how his music inspired me and how deep democracy is essential to the world. It’s about how music can open space to deeper levels of connection. Anyone who is in North Carolina or New York do come and see us and say hello over the next few weeks. >>> >>> https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/ >>> [null] >>> >>> [Tao of Glass](https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/) >>> [carolinaperformingarts.org](https://carolinaperformingarts.org/events/tao-of-glass/) >>> >>> https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/ >>> [null] >>> >>> [Phelim McDermott & Philip Glass: Tao of Glass | NYU Skirball Center](https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/) >>> [nyuskirball.org](https://nyuskirball.org/events/tao-of-glass/) >>> >>> Lots of love >>> >>> Phelim x >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Phelim McDermott >>> ----------------------------- >>> I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the working day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. 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