Re: Report from session in Open Space Garden today: How do we work from the OST values, before and after the OST meeting and in other phases of development work we are supporting?
Hi Michael,
My Givens:
One: On 3/29/2024 12:10 PM, Deborah Preuss via OSList wrote:
The date of the gathering came to us in a flash. Why not April 8^th
to get this started, on the day of the Solar Eclipse. There seemed to
be such significance to that date, as if a cosmic inspiration, the
8^th day of the 4^th month of 2024. Harrison at age 88 being the
pure expression of an infinity symbol. And indeed engaging 8 billion
people in meaningful conversations is a timeless endeavor.
Two: “Urgency” is here for billions of people, in terms, “such as social
breakdown and collapse awareness, working-class economics, and
ecological or planetary damage”. Or is it that you think not?
Three: It is time for critical and objective analysis in the use of OST.
If business as the usual, “prerequisites in place” is not up to the
challenge, "engaging 8 billion people in meaningful conversations is a
timeless endeavor". Why not, why bother, and what is there to do to
achieve HO dream?
In Solidarity with the People,
Tony Budak
On 11/11/2024 3:37 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
Dear Tony,
why were your thoughts not documented or recorded?
It is surprising news that the OST process champions positive values,
the resulting
outcomes and behaviors.
To me the OST process is a tested experiment if the prerequisites are
in place.
In other words, was the sponsor questioned on the prerequisites?
In my practice I never worked with the OST process if the sponsor was
not sure that
the prerequisites were in place. In most cases where the prerequisites
were not in place I could suggest other approaches and point to other
consultants.
Your description of events where participants are superficial is a
sure fire example of
an event that was initiated without the prerequisites in place.
The first prerequisite is „An urgent business issue… action should
have been taken yesterday“… another word for this is „Urgency“.
Have a great day
mmp
Von meinem iPad gesendet
Am 11.11.2024 um 04:14 schrieb Tony Budak via OSList
everyone@oslist.org:
Thanks to all for sharing your time and knowledge. My thoughts were
stated and offered but not documented or recorded: The OST process,
while it champions positive values, the resulting outcomes and
behaviors often fall short. Participation and engagement in OST
meetings are typically superficial and fail to drive the meaningful
change and action required to tackle significant challenges, such as
social breakdown and collapse awareness, working-class economics, and
ecological or planetary damage.
In Solidarity with the People,
Tony Budak
On 11/7/2024 2:02 PM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList wrote:
… and Bhavesh - sorry for ’losing’ you
❤️
Thomas
Skickat från Outlook för iOS https://aka.ms/o0ukef
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Skickat: Thursday, November 7, 2024 7:59:25 PM
Till: Thomas Herrmann thomas@openspaceconsulting.com
Kopia: OSLIST (everyone@oslist.org) everyone@oslist.org; Anna
Caroline Türk annacaroline@truthcircles.com
Ämne: Re: [OSList] Re: Report from session in Open Space Garden
today: How do we work from the OST values, before and after the OST
meeting and in other phases of development work we are supporting?
Thank you Thomas, Francois, and Tony.
JW
*John Warinner
(541) 815-4103
*johnwarinner@gmail.com
On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 10:51 AM Anna Caroline Türk via OSList
everyone@oslist.org wrote:
Seems like the WOSonOS continues....
this is definitely a theme that emerged there too...
the values of Open Space...
Looks nice and I am looking forward to more notes from your next
conversations.
Anna Caroline
*Anna Caroline Türk
*
Mentor to Visionary Leaders
+49(0)176 24872254 | TruthCircles.com <http://TruthCircles.com>
*Upcoming Facilitation Trainings*
online: Whole Person Process Facilitation
<https://truthcircles.com/whole-person-facilitation-training-online/>,
November 26-29 2024
online: Strategic Planning the Genuine Contact Way
<https://truthcircles.com/strategic-planning/>, 7 sessions Jan &
Feb 2025
The Netherlands: Whole Person Process Facilitation
<https://truthcircles.com/whole-person-facilitation-training-nl/>,
March 19-21 2025
On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:00 PM Thomas Herrmann via OSList
<everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Hi friends in Open Space
Here’s a link
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1borRMmcDNAKoGKF5dGgYla2nUkCjMGTG/view?usp=sharing>
to the notes from todays meeting on the topic posted here
earlier:
How do we work from the OST values, before and after the OST
meeting and in other phases of development work we are
supporting?.
We had a lovely conversation with many emerging threads,
watch out – there may be more invitations coming 😊, we
didn’t get much further then exploring the concept of values
in OST.
With appreciation and thanks for joining John, Francois,
Tony and in the central garden we also met Marai and Lucas.
Thomas Herrmann
Open Space Consulting AB
Pensévägen 4, 434 46 Kungsbacka, Sweden
Telefon: +46 (0)709 98 97 81
Email: thomas@openspaceconsulting.com
<mailto:thomas@openspaceconsulting.com>
Homepage: www.openspaceconsulting.com
<http://www.openspaceconsulting.com/>/ www.5toFold.com
<http://www.5tofold.com/>
Profile on LinkedIn:
www.linkedin.com/in/thomasherrmannopenspaceconsult
<http://www.linkedin.com/in/thomasherrmannopenspaceconsult>
Open Space Consulting frigör livskraft i människor,
organisationer och samhälle.
/We release lifepower in people, organizations and society./
*Trainings/workshops (Info & registration
<https://openspaceconsulting.com/kategori/aktiviteter/kommande-aktiviteter/>)*
2024
Oct 31-Nov 2: World OpenSpaceOnOpenSpace Istanbul, Turkey.
Nov 26-29: Whole Person Process Facilitation (ONLINE), ½
day, 2 full days, ½ day!
2025
Jan 14-16: Att arbeta hållbart med Open Space-metoden, Örby,
Sverige
Febr 11-13: Whole Person Process Facilitation, Örby, Sverige
Mar 12: Erfa-utbyte om Open Space (gratis, online)
Mar 19-21: Whole Person Process Facilitation, the Netherlands
Sept 9-11: Working with Open Space Technology, the Netherlands
Continous opportunities for *online learning - selfstudy +
mentoring* – leadership and facilitation incl Open Space
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Hi all,
And when the prerequisites in place are also ABOUT place?
When we talk about 8 billion, let us remember that we are each in a place,
and that place itself (landscape, watershed) is important for the
conversations that are needed in this time.
In my long ago doctorate I used the term "Open Space In Place" to inquire
when the theme of the OST is about the past, present, and future of the
place where the space is opened, and the people who care about it. There is
a resonance with some principles of indigenous ceremony and indigenous
science, as confirmed by my teachers Angeles Arrien and Apela Colorado.
I'm now reading a powerful book, Being Together In Place: Indigenous
Coexistence in a More than Human World (2017) by Larsen and Johnson. They
tell stories of three places around the world - within Canada, the US, and
Aotearoa/New Zealand - where Indigenous peoples, settler-descended peoples,
and nonhumans are in a new kind of dialogue, "calling humans and nonhumans
to their inevitable, ongoing entanglement in these lands and making their
struggle for coexistence at once a political and spiritual issue."
They conclude: "Coexistence is grounded in the agency of place, which
creates, teaches, and speaks of this deep interconnectedness of all life.
Through the protocols of respect, responsibility, and recognition, place
teaches us the intrinsic and life-supportive value of our being-together,
pulling us into relational worlds..."
"The agency of place" to convene us into appropriate conversation about our
shared future is resonant for that big vision of Harrison.
warmly
Jeff
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 8:56 AM Tony Budak via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:
Hi Michael,
My Givens:
One: On 3/29/2024 12:10 PM, Deborah Preuss via OSList wrote:
The date of the gathering came to us in a flash. Why not April 8th to get
this started, on the day of the Solar Eclipse. There seemed to be such
significance to that date, as if a cosmic inspiration, the 8th day of the
4th month of 2024. Harrison at age 88 being the pure expression of an
infinity symbol. And indeed engaging 8 billion people in meaningful
conversations is a timeless endeavor.
Two: “Urgency” is here for billions of people, in terms, “such as social
breakdown and collapse awareness, working-class economics, and ecological
or planetary damage”. Or is it that you think not?
Three: It is time for critical and objective analysis in the use of OST.
If business as the usual, “prerequisites in place” is not up to the
challenge, "engaging 8 billion people in meaningful conversations is a
timeless endeavor". Why not, why bother, and what is there to do to
achieve HO dream?
In Solidarity with the People,
Tony Budak
On 11/11/2024 3:37 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
Dear Tony,
why were your thoughts not documented or recorded?
It is surprising news that the OST process champions positive values, the
resulting
outcomes and behaviors.
To me the OST process is a tested experiment if the prerequisites are in
place.
In other words, was the sponsor questioned on the prerequisites?
In my practice I never worked with the OST process if the sponsor was not
sure that
the prerequisites were in place. In most cases where the prerequisites
were not in place I could suggest other approaches and point to other
consultants.
Your description of events where participants are superficial is a sure
fire example of
an event that was initiated without the prerequisites in place.
The first prerequisite is „An urgent business issue… action should have
been taken yesterday“… another word for this is „Urgency“.
Have a great day
mmp
Von meinem iPad gesendet
Am 11.11.2024 um 04:14 schrieb Tony Budak via OSList everyone@oslist.org
everyone@oslist.org:
Thanks to all for sharing your time and knowledge. My thoughts were stated
and offered but not documented or recorded: The OST process, while it
champions positive values, the resulting outcomes and behaviors often fall
short. Participation and engagement in OST meetings are typically
superficial and fail to drive the meaningful change and action required to
tackle significant challenges, such as social breakdown and collapse
awareness, working-class economics, and ecological or planetary damage.
In Solidarity with the People,
Tony Budak
On 11/7/2024 2:02 PM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList wrote:
… and Bhavesh - sorry for ’losing’ you
❤️
Thomas
Skickat från Outlook för iOS https://aka.ms/o0ukef
Från: John Warinner johnwarinner@gmail.com johnwarinner@gmail.com
Skickat: Thursday, November 7, 2024 7:59:25 PM
Till: Thomas Herrmann thomas@openspaceconsulting.com
thomas@openspaceconsulting.com
Kopia: OSLIST (everyone@oslist.org) everyone@oslist.org
everyone@oslist.org; Anna Caroline Türk annacaroline@truthcircles.com
annacaroline@truthcircles.com
Ämne: Re: [OSList] Re: Report from session in Open Space Garden today:
How do we work from the OST values, before and after the OST meeting and in
other phases of development work we are supporting?
Thank you Thomas, Francois, and Tony.
JW
*John Warinner *(541) 815-4103
johnwarinner@gmail.com
On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 10:51 AM Anna Caroline Türk via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Seems like the WOSonOS continues....
this is definitely a theme that emerged there too...
the values of Open Space...
Looks nice and I am looking forward to more notes from your next
conversations.
Anna Caroline
*Anna Caroline Türk *
Mentor to Visionary Leaders
+49(0)176 24872254 | TruthCircles.com http://TruthCircles.com
Upcoming Facilitation Trainings
online: Whole Person Process Facilitation
https://truthcircles.com/whole-person-facilitation-training-online/,
November 26-29 2024
online: Strategic Planning the Genuine Contact Way
https://truthcircles.com/strategic-planning/, 7 sessions Jan & Feb 2025
The Netherlands: Whole Person Process Facilitation
https://truthcircles.com/whole-person-facilitation-training-nl/, March
19-21 2025
On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:00 PM Thomas Herrmann via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Hi friends in Open Space
Here’s a link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1borRMmcDNAKoGKF5dGgYla2nUkCjMGTG/view?usp=sharing
to the notes from todays meeting on the topic posted here earlier:
How do we work from the OST values, before and after the OST meeting and
in other phases of development work we are supporting?.
We had a lovely conversation with many emerging threads, watch out – there
may be more invitations coming 😊, we didn’t get much further then
exploring the concept of values in OST.
With appreciation and thanks for joining John, Francois, Tony and in the
central garden we also met Marai and Lucas.
Thomas Herrmann
Open Space Consulting AB
Pensévägen 4, 434 46 Kungsbacka, Sweden
Telefon: +46 (0)709 98 97 81
Email: thomas@openspaceconsulting.com
Homepage: www.openspaceconsulting.com / www.5toFold.com
http://www.5tofold.com/
Profile on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/thomasherrmannopenspaceconsult
Open Space Consulting frigör livskraft i människor, organisationer och
samhälle.
We release lifepower in people, organizations and society.
Trainings/workshops (Info & registration
https://openspaceconsulting.com/kategori/aktiviteter/kommande-aktiviteter/)
2024
Oct 31-Nov 2: World OpenSpaceOnOpenSpace Istanbul, Turkey.
Nov 26-29: Whole Person Process Facilitation (ONLINE), ½ day, 2 full days,
½ day!
2025
Jan 14-16: Att arbeta hållbart med Open Space-metoden, Örby, Sverige
Febr 11-13: Whole Person Process Facilitation, Örby, Sverige
Mar 12: Erfa-utbyte om Open Space (gratis, online)
Mar 19-21: Whole Person Process Facilitation, the Netherlands
Sept 9-11: Working with Open Space Technology, the Netherlands
Continous opportunities for online learning - selfstudy + mentoring –
leadership and facilitation incl Open Space
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Topic: The Art of Onboarding New Members - One: Creating a commitment
pool fosters relationships among members and enhances their sense of
belonging.
The Art of Onboarding New Members - Two: What social elements, for
example, “group” and or “place” focused versus “individual” focused, do
you include alongside the technical aspects in your onboarding process
to get high active engagement?
On 11/12/2024 8:00 AM, Jeff Aitken via OSList wrote:
Hi all,
And when the prerequisites in place are also ABOUT place?
When we talk about 8 billion, let us remember that we are each in a
place, and that place itself (landscape, watershed) is important for
the conversations that are needed in this time.
In my long ago doctorate I used the term "Open Space In Place" to
inquire when the theme of the OST is about the past, present, and
future of the place where the space is opened, and the people who care
about it. There is a resonance with some principles of indigenous
ceremony and indigenous science, as confirmed by my teachers Angeles
Arrien and Apela Colorado.
I'm now reading a powerful book, Being Together In Place: Indigenous
Coexistence in a More than Human World (2017) by Larsen and Johnson.
They tell stories of three places around the world - within Canada,
the US, and Aotearoa/New Zealand - where Indigenous peoples,
settler-descended peoples, and nonhumans are in a new kind of
dialogue, "calling humans and nonhumans to their inevitable, ongoing
entanglement in these lands and making their struggle for coexistence
at once a political and spiritual issue."
They conclude: "Coexistence is grounded in the agency of place, which
creates, teaches, and speaks of this deep interconnectedness of all
life. Through the protocols of respect, responsibility, and
recognition, place teaches us the intrinsic and life-supportive value
of our being-together, pulling us into relational worlds..."
"The agency of place" to convene us into appropriate conversation
about our shared future is resonant for that big vision of Harrison.
warmly
Jeff
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 8:56 AM Tony Budak via OSList
everyone@oslist.org wrote:
Hi Michael,
My Givens:
One: On 3/29/2024 12:10 PM, Deborah Preuss via OSList wrote:
The date of the gathering came to us in a flash. Why not April
8^th to get this started, on the day of the Solar Eclipse. There
seemed to be such significance to that date, as if a cosmic
inspiration, the 8^th day of the 4^th month of 2024. Harrison
at age 88 being the pure expression of an infinity symbol. And
indeed engaging 8 billion people in meaningful conversations is a
timeless endeavor.
Two: “Urgency” is here for billions of people, in terms, “such as
social breakdown and collapse awareness, working-class economics,
and ecological or planetary damage”. Or is it that you think not?
Three: It is time for critical and objective analysis in the use
of OST. If business as the usual, “prerequisites in place” is not
up to the challenge, "engaging 8 billion people in meaningful
conversations is a timeless endeavor". Why not, why bother, and
what is there to do to achieve HO dream?
In Solidarity with the People,
Tony Budak
On 11/11/2024 3:37 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
Dear Tony,
why were your thoughts not documented or recorded?
It is surprising news that the OST process champions positive
values, the resulting
outcomes and behaviors.
To me the OST process is a tested experiment if the prerequisites
are in place.
In other words, was the sponsor questioned on the prerequisites?
In my practice I never worked with the OST process if the sponsor
was not sure that
the prerequisites were in place. In most cases where the
prerequisites were not in place I could suggest other approaches
and point to other consultants.
Your description of events where participants are superficial is
a sure fire example of
an event that was initiated without the prerequisites in place.
The first prerequisite is „An urgent business issue… action
should have been taken yesterday“… another word for this is
„Urgency“.
Have a great day
mmp
Von meinem iPad gesendet
Am 11.11.2024 um 04:14 schrieb Tony Budak via OSList
<everyone@oslist.org> <mailto:everyone@oslist.org>:
Thanks to all for sharing your time and knowledge. My thoughts
were stated and offered but not documented or recorded: The OST
process, while it champions positive values, the resulting
outcomes and behaviors often fall short. Participation and
engagement in OST meetings are typically superficial and fail to
drive the meaningful change and action required to tackle
significant challenges, such as social breakdown and collapse
awareness, working-class economics, and ecological or planetary
damage.
In Solidarity with the People,
Tony Budak
On 11/7/2024 2:02 PM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList wrote:
… and Bhavesh - sorry for ’losing’ you
❤️
Thomas
Skickat från Outlook för iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
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*Från:* John Warinner <johnwarinner@gmail.com>
<mailto:johnwarinner@gmail.com>
*Skickat:* Thursday, November 7, 2024 7:59:25 PM
*Till:* Thomas Herrmann <thomas@openspaceconsulting.com>
<mailto:thomas@openspaceconsulting.com>
*Kopia:* OSLIST (everyone@oslist.org) <everyone@oslist.org>
<mailto:everyone@oslist.org>; Anna Caroline Türk
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<mailto:annacaroline@truthcircles.com>
*Ämne:* Re: [OSList] Re: Report from session in Open Space
Garden today: How do we work from the OST values, before and
after the OST meeting and in other phases of development work
we are supporting?
Thank you Thomas, Francois, and Tony.
JW
*John Warinner
*(541) 815-4103*
*johnwarinner@gmail.com
On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 10:51 AM Anna Caroline Türk via OSList
<everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Seems like the WOSonOS continues....
this is definitely a theme that emerged there too...
the values of Open Space...
Looks nice and I am looking forward to more notes from your
next conversations.
Anna Caroline
*Anna Caroline Türk
*
Mentor to Visionary Leaders
+49(0)176 24872254 | TruthCircles.com <http://TruthCircles.com>
*Upcoming Facilitation Trainings*
online: Whole Person Process Facilitation
<https://truthcircles.com/whole-person-facilitation-training-online/>,
November 26-29 2024
online: Strategic Planning the Genuine Contact Way
<https://truthcircles.com/strategic-planning/>, 7 sessions
Jan & Feb 2025
The Netherlands: Whole Person Process Facilitation
<https://truthcircles.com/whole-person-facilitation-training-nl/>,
March 19-21 2025
On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:00 PM Thomas Herrmann via OSList
<everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Hi friends in Open Space
Here’s a link
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1borRMmcDNAKoGKF5dGgYla2nUkCjMGTG/view?usp=sharing>
to the notes from todays meeting on the topic posted
here earlier:
How do we work from the OST values, before and after
the OST meeting and in other phases of development work
we are supporting?.
We had a lovely conversation with many emerging
threads, watch out – there may be more invitations
coming 😊, we didn’t get much further then exploring
the concept of values in OST.
With appreciation and thanks for joining John,
Francois, Tony and in the central garden we also met
Marai and Lucas.
Thomas Herrmann
Open Space Consulting AB
Pensévägen 4, 434 46 Kungsbacka, Sweden
Telefon: +46 (0)709 98 97 81
Email: thomas@openspaceconsulting.com
<mailto:thomas@openspaceconsulting.com>
Homepage: www.openspaceconsulting.com
<http://www.openspaceconsulting.com/>/ www.5toFold.com
<http://www.5tofold.com/>
Profile on LinkedIn:
www.linkedin.com/in/thomasherrmannopenspaceconsult
<http://www.linkedin.com/in/thomasherrmannopenspaceconsult>
Open Space Consulting frigör livskraft i människor,
organisationer och samhälle.
/We release lifepower in people, organizations and
society./
*Trainings/workshops (Info & registration
<https://openspaceconsulting.com/kategori/aktiviteter/kommande-aktiviteter/>)*
2024
Oct 31-Nov 2: World OpenSpaceOnOpenSpace Istanbul, Turkey.
Nov 26-29: Whole Person Process Facilitation (ONLINE),
½ day, 2 full days, ½ day!
2025
Jan 14-16: Att arbeta hållbart med Open Space-metoden,
Örby, Sverige
Febr 11-13: Whole Person Process Facilitation, Örby,
Sverige
Mar 12: Erfa-utbyte om Open Space (gratis, online)
Mar 19-21: Whole Person Process Facilitation, the
Netherlands
Sept 9-11: Working with Open Space Technology, the
Netherlands
Continous opportunities for *online learning -
selfstudy + mentoring* – leadership and facilitation
incl Open Space
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Hi Jeff et al,
I am not always able to attend the timeslots but read with interest the
thread as it comes through - in particular today I see 'commitment pooling'
and refer to a colleagues work Grass Roots Economics - that has done a lot
of work in this area - living amongst Kenyans in Kenya utilising their
traditional form of poling called Mweria.
Just wanted to share that -
my heart walks with yours,
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On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 8:15 AM Tony Budak via OSList everyone@oslist.org
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Topic: The Art of Onboarding New Members - One: Creating a commitment pool
fosters relationships among members and enhances their sense of belonging.
The Art of Onboarding New Members - Two: What social elements, for
example, “group” and or “place” focused versus “individual” focused, do you
include alongside the technical aspects in your onboarding process to get
high active engagement?
On 11/12/2024 8:00 AM, Jeff Aitken via OSList wrote:
Hi all,
And when the prerequisites in place are also ABOUT place?
When we talk about 8 billion, let us remember that we are each in a place,
and that place itself (landscape, watershed) is important for the
conversations that are needed in this time.
In my long ago doctorate I used the term "Open Space In Place" to inquire
when the theme of the OST is about the past, present, and future of the
place where the space is opened, and the people who care about it. There is
a resonance with some principles of indigenous ceremony and indigenous
science, as confirmed by my teachers Angeles Arrien and Apela Colorado.
I'm now reading a powerful book, Being Together In Place: Indigenous
Coexistence in a More than Human World (2017) by Larsen and Johnson.
They tell stories of three places around the world - within Canada, the US,
and Aotearoa/New Zealand - where Indigenous peoples, settler-descended
peoples, and nonhumans are in a new kind of dialogue, "calling humans and
nonhumans to their inevitable, ongoing entanglement in these lands and
making their struggle for coexistence at once a political and spiritual
issue."
They conclude: "Coexistence is grounded in the agency of place, which
creates, teaches, and speaks of this deep interconnectedness of all life.
Through the protocols of respect, responsibility, and recognition, place
teaches us the intrinsic and life-supportive value of our being-together,
pulling us into relational worlds..."
"The agency of place" to convene us into appropriate conversation about
our shared future is resonant for that big vision of Harrison.
warmly
Jeff
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 8:56 AM Tony Budak via OSList everyone@oslist.org
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Hi Michael,
My Givens:
One: On 3/29/2024 12:10 PM, Deborah Preuss via OSList wrote:
The date of the gathering came to us in a flash. Why not April 8th to
get this started, on the day of the Solar Eclipse. There seemed to be such
significance to that date, as if a cosmic inspiration, the 8th day of
the 4th month of 2024. Harrison at age 88 being the pure expression of
an infinity symbol. And indeed engaging 8 billion people in meaningful
conversations is a timeless endeavor.
Two: “Urgency” is here for billions of people, in terms, “such as social
breakdown and collapse awareness, working-class economics, and ecological
or planetary damage”. Or is it that you think not?
Three: It is time for critical and objective analysis in the use of OST.
If business as the usual, “prerequisites in place” is not up to the
challenge, "engaging 8 billion people in meaningful conversations is a
timeless endeavor". Why not, why bother, and what is there to do to
achieve HO dream?
In Solidarity with the People,
Tony Budak
On 11/11/2024 3:37 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
Dear Tony,
why were your thoughts not documented or recorded?
It is surprising news that the OST process champions positive values, the
resulting
outcomes and behaviors.
To me the OST process is a tested experiment if the prerequisites are in
place.
In other words, was the sponsor questioned on the prerequisites?
In my practice I never worked with the OST process if the sponsor was not
sure that
the prerequisites were in place. In most cases where the prerequisites
were not in place I could suggest other approaches and point to other
consultants.
Your description of events where participants are superficial is a sure
fire example of
an event that was initiated without the prerequisites in place.
The first prerequisite is „An urgent business issue… action should have
been taken yesterday“… another word for this is „Urgency“.
Have a great day
mmp
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Am 11.11.2024 um 04:14 schrieb Tony Budak via OSList
everyone@oslist.org everyone@oslist.org:
Thanks to all for sharing your time and knowledge. My thoughts were
stated and offered but not documented or recorded: The OST process, while
it champions positive values, the resulting outcomes and behaviors often
fall short. Participation and engagement in OST meetings are typically
superficial and fail to drive the meaningful change and action required to
tackle significant challenges, such as social breakdown and collapse
awareness, working-class economics, and ecological or planetary damage.
In Solidarity with the People,
Tony Budak
On 11/7/2024 2:02 PM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList wrote:
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Ämne: Re: [OSList] Re: Report from session in Open Space Garden today:
How do we work from the OST values, before and after the OST meeting and in
other phases of development work we are supporting?
Thank you Thomas, Francois, and Tony.
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On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 10:51 AM Anna Caroline Türk via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Seems like the WOSonOS continues....
this is definitely a theme that emerged there too...
the values of Open Space...
Looks nice and I am looking forward to more notes from your next
conversations.
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Hi friends in Open Space
Here’s a link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1borRMmcDNAKoGKF5dGgYla2nUkCjMGTG/view?usp=sharing
to the notes from todays meeting on the topic posted here earlier:
How do we work from the OST values, before and after the OST meeting and
in other phases of development work we are supporting?.
We had a lovely conversation with many emerging threads, watch out –
there may be more invitations coming 😊, we didn’t get much further then
exploring the concept of values in OST.
With appreciation and thanks for joining John, Francois, Tony and in the
central garden we also met Marai and Lucas.
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Yes, very relevant, thank you. Knowing that others practice Pooling,
i.e., any near and similar actions, leads to mirroring.
Please enumerate any other traditional or current forms of Pooling.
On 11/13/2024 7:27 PM, Cari via OSList wrote:
Kenya utilising their traditional form of pooling called Mweria.