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Lisa Sieverts
Fri, May 9, 2025 1:06 PM

The “35” game Thomas mentioned was developed by Thiagi (Sivasailam
Thiagarajan):

https://www.thiagi.com/archived-games/2015/2/22/thirty-five-for-debriefing

The whole website is a great resource for facilitators.

Lisa Sieverts
603-762-0235
lisa@lisasieverts.com

On 9 May 2025, at 3:03, Thomas Herrmann via OSList wrote:

Noticed it did not go through the list
😊
Thomas

Från: Thomas Herrmann
Skickat: den 8 maj 2025 08:26
Till: 'Peggy Holman' peggy@peggyholman.com
Ämne: Sv: [OSList] Re: Planning goes on OST in fishing village

Thanks Peggy!
I do think it could serve the group to have some kind of summarizing
picture. Thanks for sharing from your amazing work!
A challenge is that we don’t know how many will be present at each
gathering, could be 150, could be 30. I assume the method you shared
about suits better with small-ish groups?

At the third occasion we want to open up space for action and it would
be nice to also have a converging activity as well. I am thinking
about the 35-method (I found an explanation of the process when
googling, for anyone interested. I’ve used it many times, also with
groups up til 250!
https://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/facilitation-processes-35/1606587?utm_source=chatgpt.com

I’d be interested to hear of any other methods. One good thing apart
from the results, using 35, is that its quick and give us more time
for the action part.
Cheers
Thomas

Från: Peggy Holman via OSList
<everyone@oslist.orgmailto:everyone@oslist.org>
Skickat: den 7 maj 2025 23:44
Till: Open Space Listserv
<everyone@oslist.orgmailto:everyone@oslist.org>
Ämne: [OSList] Re: Planning goes on OST in fishing village

Just getting home from three weeks of travel…some thoughts on
convergence…

I tend to think of three possible scenarios at the end of an Open
Space:

    1. The meeting itself is enough. A chance to come together with
      colleagues to explore questions of interest together is the purpose.
      Whatever happens next occurs through what the individuals who came are
      moved to do.
    1. An articulated shared perspective - convergence — is desired. I
      often think of this as a naming of shared principles or a framing that
      both connects participants through a shared perspective and frees them
      to act on their own in congruence to a shared bigger picture. I think
      of the metaphor I once heard from a Boeing engineer: a jet is 3
      million parts flying in close proximity.
    1. The intent is to move ideas to action, optionally shared action.

Sometimes groups want both a shared framework and movement into
action.

For action...
Like Michael, I will often re-open the space for action. People take
it from there. Simple and straightforward. I have also used a
Pro-action
cafehttps://journalismthatmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Proaction-Cafe-Basics.pdf
for action. For those unfamiliar with it, it’s a cross between an
Open Space and a World Cafe that is specifically intended for this
purpose.

If a framework is desirable…
I’ve experimented with a variety of approaches to create a shared
framework. Most often, I’ll do something that starts with what moves
each person after they have spent time together in Open Space. I'll
invite them to pick one thing they want to guide them as a result of
their time together, knowing that among the group, a web of what’s
most important will emerge. I’ll ask each person to write it down,
as they would a topic for the agenda wall. With a small group, I’ll
ask them to speak it out loud, as you would in a closing circle. Then
I invite people to mingle, forming a cluster with people who have a
similar thought. I have been amazed how 3-7 clusters reliably emerge
that, together, form a framework. Each group then works to create a
statement or two that captures their principle. I’ll sometimes ask
for volunteers to take the rough material from all the groups and
refine it on behalf of the group.

Here’s an example from a journalism convening called Experience
Engagement:
https://medium.com/experience-engagement/towards-a-civic-communications-ecosystem-for-thriving-community-f4f75c4ca450

I’ve used other practices for coalescing. Depending on the group
size, some work better than others. Happy to say more about approaches
I’ve used that result in a loosely-held shared framework.

Peggy


Peggy Holman
peggy@peggyholman.commailto:peggy@peggyholman.com

Bellevue, WA  98006
206-948-0432
www.peggyholman.comhttp://www.peggyholman.com

Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into
Opportunityhttps://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/

"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get
burnt, is to become
the fire".
-- Drew Dellinger

Join the Open Space practitioner’s conference - the World Open Space
on Open Space (WOSonOShttps://www.wosonos2025.org ) - in Kenya,
November 6-8.

On Apr 29, 2025, at 2:49 PM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
<everyone@oslist.orgmailto:everyone@oslist.org> wrote:

Dear Thomas,

after the two ost events the process needs actionorienting.

Have the third event as an "action space".

Folks will be surprised who all shows up in the "action space".
Participants have carried
the content into their environment and even folks that were at neither
of the two ost-events.
They might be those that also are needed but not thought of before.

Any of those present can post their projects that has heart and
meaning for them.
Be ready to be surprised as you see projects posted that were not part
of the prior two
ost-events.

The projects are dealt with as issues were dealt with in the
ost-events.
They are announced and posted and then there is time to work on the
projects.
For this they dont have to go into breakout sessions but work standing
next to
the project posted on a wall... and have a passion for and want to
take responsibility for.

Each project that the participants want to work on needs a "first
step".
The name of the project is written down in the "first step" document
(one page) that contains the date, time and place where
the project gathers.
That and the title of the project and those that participate in it and
the name
and contact data of the contact person is documented.

After all projects have been discussed and have action sheets for
first steps all participants
can walk around to every project and add their names even though they
were not in
the original group that has filled in the "first step" sheet.

Regarding convergence, forget it.
It is simply a statistical step.
Long ago, I used simple and complex designs to find out the most
interesting, the most important, etc. issues.
Often, surprise, the most interesting or the most important, etc. did
not receive the required folks for getting that issue into a project.

Its passion and responsibility and fire and a bunch of other stuff
that gets projects to live.

The Project sheets are gathered, copied and handed to all
participants.

Have a great time and keep reporting and asking.

Greetings from Berlin and post how it went at this year's

https://www.wosonos2025.org/

mmp

Am 29.04.2025 um 23:08 schrieb Thomas Herrmann via OSList:
Hi friends and again many thanks for all responses!

Where we are now in our planning is to do convergence later and be in
open space for both 4 hour session. Also we are looking at how we can
create space during the 9 days between the meetings, to continue
conversations. It looks like we can keep the reports from the 1st
occasion in the physical space, a large tent, during the time
inbetween. So maybe that space can be used if groups want to meet.

We are also considering an online space… We do have to keep it
simple, which is always good anyway, as its only 2,5 weeks until the
1st meeting – May 14th. The second is May 23rd.

The outline I plan is the same for both occasions: Opening circle, 2
timeslots for 1,15 hours. Closing circle. People are of course welcome
to join both times.

Now we have to figure out how to do some convergence. It will probably
be another meeting for that. So there could be space for even more
conversations/sessions before that if its not directly after day 2…
Imagine if that could be possible – Saturday morning the 24h….!

I see the total of all reports as a “fluffy vision” for the future
for the community. Any ideas for if/how it is possible/meaningful to
converge more to have a more of a common vision? There have been
expressions of this to have more of a common voice as many in the
community feel overrun by the larger municipality especially regarding
plans for changes in the harbour.

I have been considering using the 35 method that some of you may know
about – to get the highest priority issues of a question.

I guess actions are gonna happen anyway but that would also be part of
a convergence meeting, to invite actions.

That’s my thinking at this late hour. Thanks for listening ❤
It looks like we are going for it. So more ideas are welcome!

Thomas Herrmann
Open Space Consulting AB

Pensévägen 4, 434 46 Kungsbacka, Sweden
Telefon: +46 (0)709 98 97 81
Email:
thomas@openspaceconsulting.commailto:thomas@openspaceconsulting.com
Homepage:
www.openspaceconsulting.comhttp://www.openspaceconsulting.com/ /
www.5toFold.comhttp://www.5tofold.com/
Profile on LinkedIn:
www.linkedin.com/in/thomasherrmannopenspaceconsulthttp://www.linkedin.com/in/thomasherrmannopenspaceconsult

Open Space Consulting frigör livskraft i människor, organisationer
och samhälle.
We release lifepower in people, organizations and society.

Trainings/workshops (Info &
registrationhttps://openspaceconsulting.com/kategori/aktiviteter/kommande-aktiviteter/
)

2025
Sept 9-11: Working with Open Space Technology, the Netherlands
Sept 17-19: Open Space för Demokrati, Gullbrannagården.
Sept 23-25: Att arbeta hållbart med Open Space-metoden, Örby,
Sverige
Okt 8: Erfa-utbyte om Open Space (gratis, online)
Nov 7-9 WorldOpenSpaceOnOpenSpace, Nairobi, Kenya

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– leadership and facilitation incl Open Space
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The “35” game Thomas mentioned was developed by Thiagi (Sivasailam Thiagarajan): https://www.thiagi.com/archived-games/2015/2/22/thirty-five-for-debriefing The whole website is a great resource for facilitators. Lisa Sieverts 603-762-0235 lisa@lisasieverts.com On 9 May 2025, at 3:03, Thomas Herrmann via OSList wrote: > Noticed it did not go through the list > 😊 > Thomas > > Från: Thomas Herrmann > Skickat: den 8 maj 2025 08:26 > Till: 'Peggy Holman' <peggy@peggyholman.com> > Ämne: Sv: [OSList] Re: Planning goes on OST in fishing village > > Thanks Peggy! > I do think it could serve the group to have some kind of summarizing > picture. Thanks for sharing from your amazing work! > A challenge is that we don’t know how many will be present at each > gathering, could be 150, could be 30. I assume the method you shared > about suits better with small-ish groups? > > At the third occasion we want to open up space for action and it would > be nice to also have a converging activity as well. I am thinking > about the 35-method (I found an explanation of the process when > googling, for anyone interested. I’ve used it many times, also with > groups up til 250! > https://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/facilitation-processes-35/1606587?utm_source=chatgpt.com > > I’d be interested to hear of any other methods. One good thing apart > from the results, using 35, is that its quick and give us more time > for the action part. > Cheers > Thomas > > Från: Peggy Holman via OSList > <everyone@oslist.org<mailto:everyone@oslist.org>> > Skickat: den 7 maj 2025 23:44 > Till: Open Space Listserv > <everyone@oslist.org<mailto:everyone@oslist.org>> > Ämne: [OSList] Re: Planning goes on OST in fishing village > > Just getting home from three weeks of travel…some thoughts on > convergence… > > I tend to think of three possible scenarios at the end of an Open > Space: > > * 1. The meeting itself is enough. A chance to come together with > colleagues to explore questions of interest together is the purpose. > Whatever happens next occurs through what the individuals who came are > moved to do. > > * 2. An articulated shared perspective - convergence — is desired. I > often think of this as a naming of shared principles or a framing that > both connects participants through a shared perspective and frees them > to act on their own in congruence to a shared bigger picture. I think > of the metaphor I once heard from a Boeing engineer: a jet is 3 > million parts flying in close proximity. > > * 3. The intent is to move ideas to action, optionally shared action. > > Sometimes groups want both a shared framework and movement into > action. > > > For action... > Like Michael, I will often re-open the space for action. People take > it from there. Simple and straightforward. I have also used a > Pro-action > cafe<https://journalismthatmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Proaction-Cafe-Basics.pdf> > for action. For those unfamiliar with it, it’s a cross between an > Open Space and a World Cafe that is specifically intended for this > purpose. > > > If a framework is desirable… > I’ve experimented with a variety of approaches to create a shared > framework. Most often, I’ll do something that starts with what moves > each person after they have spent time together in Open Space. I'll > invite them to pick one thing they want to guide them as a result of > their time together, knowing that among the group, a web of what’s > most important will emerge. I’ll ask each person to write it down, > as they would a topic for the agenda wall. With a small group, I’ll > ask them to speak it out loud, as you would in a closing circle. Then > I invite people to mingle, forming a cluster with people who have a > similar thought. I have been amazed how 3-7 clusters reliably emerge > that, together, form a framework. Each group then works to create a > statement or two that captures their principle. I’ll sometimes ask > for volunteers to take the rough material from all the groups and > refine it on behalf of the group. > > Here’s an example from a journalism convening called Experience > Engagement: > https://medium.com/experience-engagement/towards-a-civic-communications-ecosystem-for-thriving-community-f4f75c4ca450 > > > I’ve used other practices for coalescing. Depending on the group > size, some work better than others. Happy to say more about approaches > I’ve used that result in a loosely-held shared framework. > > Peggy > > > > > > _________________________________ > Peggy Holman > peggy@peggyholman.com<mailto:peggy@peggyholman.com> > > Bellevue, WA 98006 > 206-948-0432 > www.peggyholman.com<http://www.peggyholman.com> > > Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into > Opportunity<https://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/> > > "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get > burnt, is to become > the fire". > -- Drew Dellinger > > Join the Open Space practitioner’s conference - the World Open Space > on Open Space (WOSonOS<https://www.wosonos2025.org> ) - in Kenya, > November 6-8. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 29, 2025, at 2:49 PM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList > <everyone@oslist.org<mailto:everyone@oslist.org>> wrote: > > Dear Thomas, > > after the two ost events the process needs actionorienting. > > Have the third event as an "action space". > > Folks will be surprised who all shows up in the "action space". > Participants have carried > the content into their environment and even folks that were at neither > of the two ost-events. > They might be those that also are needed but not thought of before. > > Any of those present can post their projects that has heart and > meaning for them. > Be ready to be surprised as you see projects posted that were not part > of the prior two > ost-events. > > The projects are dealt with as issues were dealt with in the > ost-events. > They are announced and posted and then there is time to work on the > projects. > For this they dont have to go into breakout sessions but work standing > next to > the project posted on a wall... and have a passion for and want to > take responsibility for. > > Each project that the participants want to work on needs a "first > step". > The name of the project is written down in the "first step" document > (one page) that contains the date, time and place where > the project gathers. > That and the title of the project and those that participate in it and > the name > and contact data of the contact person is documented. > > After all projects have been discussed and have action sheets for > first steps all participants > can walk around to every project and add their names even though they > were not in > the original group that has filled in the "first step" sheet. > > Regarding convergence, forget it. > It is simply a statistical step. > Long ago, I used simple and complex designs to find out the most > interesting, the most important, etc. issues. > Often, surprise, the most interesting or the most important, etc. did > not receive the required folks for getting that issue into a project. > > Its passion and responsibility and fire and a bunch of other stuff > that gets projects to live. > > The Project sheets are gathered, copied and handed to all > participants. > > Have a great time and keep reporting and asking. > > Greetings from Berlin and post how it went at this year's > > https://www.wosonos2025.org/ > > mmp > > > > > > Am 29.04.2025 um 23:08 schrieb Thomas Herrmann via OSList: > Hi friends and again many thanks for all responses! > > Where we are now in our planning is to do convergence later and be in > open space for both 4 hour session. Also we are looking at how we can > create space during the 9 days between the meetings, to continue > conversations. It looks like we can keep the reports from the 1st > occasion in the physical space, a large tent, during the time > inbetween. So maybe that space can be used if groups want to meet. > > We are also considering an online space… We do have to keep it > simple, which is always good anyway, as its only 2,5 weeks until the > 1st meeting – May 14th. The second is May 23rd. > > The outline I plan is the same for both occasions: Opening circle, 2 > timeslots for 1,15 hours. Closing circle. People are of course welcome > to join both times. > > Now we have to figure out how to do some convergence. It will probably > be another meeting for that. So there could be space for even more > conversations/sessions before that if its not directly after day 2… > Imagine if that could be possible – Saturday morning the 24h….! > > I see the total of all reports as a “fluffy vision” for the future > for the community. Any ideas for if/how it is possible/meaningful to > converge more to have a more of a common vision? There have been > expressions of this to have more of a common voice as many in the > community feel overrun by the larger municipality especially regarding > plans for changes in the harbour. > > I have been considering using the 35 method that some of you may know > about – to get the highest priority issues of a question. > > I guess actions are gonna happen anyway but that would also be part of > a convergence meeting, to invite actions. > > That’s my thinking at this late hour. Thanks for listening ❤ > It looks like we are going for it. So more ideas are welcome! > > Thomas Herrmann > Open Space Consulting AB > > Pensévägen 4, 434 46 Kungsbacka, Sweden > Telefon: +46 (0)709 98 97 81 > Email: > thomas@openspaceconsulting.com<mailto:thomas@openspaceconsulting.com> > Homepage: > www.openspaceconsulting.com<http://www.openspaceconsulting.com/> / > www.5toFold.com<http://www.5tofold.com/> > Profile on LinkedIn: > www.linkedin.com/in/thomasherrmannopenspaceconsult<http://www.linkedin.com/in/thomasherrmannopenspaceconsult> > > Open Space Consulting frigör livskraft i människor, organisationer > och samhälle. > We release lifepower in people, organizations and society. > > Trainings/workshops (Info & > registration<https://openspaceconsulting.com/kategori/aktiviteter/kommande-aktiviteter/> > ) > > 2025 > Sept 9-11: Working with Open Space Technology, the Netherlands > Sept 17-19: Open Space för Demokrati, Gullbrannagården. > Sept 23-25: Att arbeta hållbart med Open Space-metoden, Örby, > Sverige > Okt 8: Erfa-utbyte om Open Space (gratis, online) > Nov 7-9 WorldOpenSpaceOnOpenSpace, Nairobi, Kenya > > Continous opportunities for online learning - selfstudy + mentoring > – leadership and facilitation incl Open Space > <image001.png> > > > > > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org<mailto:everyone@oslist.org> > > To unsubscribe send an email to > everyone-leave@oslist.org<mailto:everyone-leave@oslist.org> > > See the archives here: > https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > > > > Michael M Pannwitz > > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany > > +49 30 7728000 mmpannwitz@posteo.de<mailto:mmpannwitz@posteo.de> > > > > This year the WOSonOS will be in Kenya in November, have a look > > https://www.wosonos2025.org/ > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org<mailto:everyone@oslist.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to > everyone-leave@oslist.org<mailto:everyone-leave@oslist.org> > See the archives here: > https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org > OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org > To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org > See the archives here: > https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.org