------ Doorgestuurd bericht -------- Van: Koos de Heer <koos@auryn.nl> Datum: 4-10-2026 21:07:04 Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] Re: The OST principles go mainstream Aan: Peggy Holman <peggy@peggyholman.com> Dear Peggy, Thank you very much for sharing all this! I love the part about "with compassion".  I fully share your preference to focus on what to do.  Warm greetings, Koos Op 4-10-2026 19:13:13, Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> schreef: OSList mailing list -- everyone@oslist.org To unsubscribe send an email to everyone-leave@oslist.org See the archives here: https://oslist.org/empathy/list/everyone.oslist.orgHarrison actually mentions Angeles Arrien’s 4-Fold Way in a shortened form in Open Space Technology: A User’s Guide. It's on page 60 of the 3rd Edition and page 48 in the original edition. Oddly, Harrison splits the first statement into two and misses the second entirely.  Show up Be present Tell the truth Let it all go On a different note, I had a conversation with Angie once and asked her about a reframing I proposed for the third statement: Tell the truth with compassion. She thought about it for a moment and said it worked. I have a bias towards it because it speaks to what TO do rather than what NOT to do. Peggy On Oct 4, 2026, at 1:41 AM, Bhavesh Patel via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote: Maybe similar underlying spirit... Show up and choose to be fully present. - WHOEVER COMES... Pay attention to what has heart and meaning. - WHENEVER IT STARTS... Tell the truth without blame or judgment. - WHATEVER HAPPENS... Be open to outcome, not attached to outcome. - WHEN IT'S OVER... On Sun, 4 Oct 2026 at 08:56, Romy Shovelton via OSList <everyone@oslist.org [mailto:everyone@oslist.org]> wrote: How wonderful that these ways of being are appreciated so beautifully 😀 Thanks to Ethelyn for sending this to us . 😊 Romy Shovelton Cae Ceirch Brithdir Dolgellau  Gwynedd LL40 2SB  +44 7767 370739 [tel:07767%20370739] Sent from my iPhone On 3 Oct 2026, at 21:19, John Warinner via OSList <everyone@oslist.org [mailto:everyone@oslist.org]> wrote:  I am detecting some possible confusion between the four principles of OST and the “Four Immutable Laws of Spirit” attributed to Angeles Arrien. I believe those (the latter) are different statements. Perhaps something along the lines of: Show up and choose to be fully present. Pay attention to what has heart and meaning. Tell the truth without blame or judgment. Be open to outcome, not attached to outcome. Isn't language fascinating? John John Warinner (541) 815-4103 johnwarinner@gmail.com [mailto:johnw@watersolving.com] On Sat, Oct 3, 2026 at 11:36 AM Rijon Erickson via OSList <everyone@oslist.org [mailto:everyone@oslist.org]> wrote: Anne Lamott’s statement was puzzling (and slightly disappointing) in that she was reminded of the “Four Immutable Laws of the Spirit” - using proper nouns as if those “laws” were named by someone other than Harrison. I wonder who introduced them to her in that way.  Thankfully the author of the NYT article gave attribution to Harrison.  Lamott’s disrespect is most definitely outweighed by the naming of the principles and It’s definitely uplifting to see the principles popularized in such a widely-read publication.  On Sat, Oct 3, 2026 at 1:58 PM Peggy Holman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org [mailto:everyone@oslist.org]> wrote: I got a message from Ethelyn Owen, Harrison’s widow, with this link from the New York Times. She said check out #5.  <30-the-good-list-nl-lede-videoSixteenByNine3000.jpg> The Good List: 6 Things to Add Delight to Your Day (Gift Article) [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/30/briefing/30-the-good-list-keanu-stowaway.html?unlocked_article_code=1.F1E.pz-6.8CAMf5AwxlPv&amp;smid=em-share] nytimes.com [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/30/briefing/30-the-good-list-keanu-stowaway.html?unlocked_article_code=1.F1E.pz-6.8CAMf5AwxlPv&amp;smid=em-share] [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/30/briefing/30-the-good-list-keanu-stowaway.html?unlocked_article_code=1.F1E.pz-6.8CAMf5AwxlPv&amp;smid=em-share] The site doesn’t make it easy to get to the story if you’re not a subscriber so I’ve copied the relevant section below. Harrison used to talk of reaching a time when OST was just the way people operated. Through this article, it looks like a bit of the magic made it into the mainstream. I believe we each continue to support that evolution with every space we open, small or large. Peggy 5. How to silence the doubts In “Some Assembly Required: A Journal of My Son’s First Son [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/305113/some-assembly-required-by-anne-lamott-with-sam-lamott/],” the writer Anne Lamott surveys the scene of her family doting on her new grandson at the funeral of her beloved uncle Millard: I was reminded of the Four Immutable Laws of the Spirit: Whoever is present are the right people. Whenever it begins is the right time. Whatever happens is the only thing that could have happened. And when it’s over, it’s over. Each one of these “laws,” originally [http://elementaleducation.com/wp-content/uploads/temp/OpenSpaceTechnology--UsersGuide.pdf] coined by the organizational consultant Harrison Owen, seems worth internalizing as a means of quieting our constantly harping minds that tend to insist that everything is wrong — what’s happening, when it’s happening, whom it’s happening to or with. 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