Global WOSONOS
There it is, freedom to oscillate, ah life creates with us so beautifully, thx for th dance all
On Sun, Mar 26, 2023, at 10:04 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList wrote:
Exciting ideas and nice memories of our experiment in Swenmark, it was a joy to play with it!
To me its attractive to have several full, in person events and then simple ways to connect them and offer those who care to, to connect online and those who prefer to stay fully in the physical space to do so.
With appreciation
Thomas Herrmann
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Ämne: [OSList] Re: Global WOSONOS
here are the notes from osonos 10 (marysville) and osonos 11 (swenmark) from where all the notes were posted online, at the same moment that they were posted on the wall at each venue. some lively discussion took place online in both cases, including after the events finished.
https://openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark
https://openspaceworld.org/cgi/oldwiki.cgi?MarysvilleAustralia
these would have been very different if we'd had zoom back then 2002 and 2003.
we did this with wiki at the time, as google docs was also not yet invented. today, this sort of globally shared documenting could happen easily in a google doc rather than a wiki.
somewhere between a single physical location and hybrid with online participation everywhere, there is a multi-(but few)-sites option: one space per continent, perhaps. each one still an exciting gathering of people from all over (mostly nearer than very far, but anyone could continent-hop if they wanted to). the sites could all contribute to a shared doc... thanks too google... and be linked together, with many individuals, via zoom... and, of course, qiqochat. wouldn't have to be limited to three sides of the globe, but that would seem to be the minimum number of sites required to effectively encircle the globe. maybe each physical location would set aside one breakout space where folks could check in with other locations and individuals online. that might simply be a "new and improved" "global hive" of the newsroom that we're already used to finding at any multi-day OS gathering. where all the notes are being typed directly to a globally shared doc, the three (or more) newsrooms are all on shared zoom, and all kinds of buzzing and fluttering participants might connect and eddy into various online breakout spaces. .
to the earlier oslist conversation about repeating in europe, this year and potentially next year... what if we didn't delay europe next year, but added an asian and an american location to it? three terrestrial gathering points around the globe/clock, one online always-open coffee bar, and one world-around community and a single online proceedings document?
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On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 3:03 PM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:
Dear Open Space enthusiasts near and far away,
folks or family visiting at birthdays, sitting around the christmas tree, neighbors walking by, people at the bus stop and in the bus, parents having an eye on their kids on the playground, folks on vacation on a wonderful island, a group of friends sitting at a table in a restaurant, couples watching Television... many of them neither present nor absent in a mode of perpetually holding on to a gadget being in touch with the entire world and everyone...
Gathering in Open Space in the flesh or virtual or in other variations, all have their right to exist.
Engaging in all at the same time (one group in a real life setting and other individuals or groups in virtual contact engaged in virtual space and other manifestations) is less than half the enchilada. Especially a mode that os facilitators abhor trying their best to be totally present and invisible at the same time...
Prerequisites for the unfolding of the the force of selforganisation are a burning issue, a hypercomplex situation, high diversity in the group of participants, an urgent need of results since yesterday, challenges that nobody by themselve has an answer to. Those prerequisites are also necessary for an action orienting Open Space on Open Space taking 16 hours spread over 3 days with two nights of sleep.
In getting projects on the road that grew in the 3 days, especially globally connected ones, need every tool available for managing the project, no question...
Regarding the venues for OSonOS events: In the years 2009 through 2017, regional "Learning Exchanges" were convened in the OSonOS mode in the years in which WOSonOS took place OUTSIDE of Europe.
We met in France/Paris in 2009, then in Italy/Sardinia 2011, in Holland/Utrecht in 2013, Spain/San Sebastian in 2016 and Iceland in 2017. These events were grand for folks that would not travel by plane or had limited resources or ...
In the face of climate change and other threats this kind of "regionalisation" might be the music of the future, ongoing wherever folks feel the time for an OSonOS has come in their neighborhood.
And the WOSonOS no longer in the flesh but global in whatever way.
Greetings from Berlin from an expert colleague that has never been in an online event or in a video conference or in the possesion of a cell phone (well, this year, my kids forced their 83 year old father to carry a cell phone to make calls and a few of them have my cell phone number, no one else) eagerly awaits his third WOSonOS in Berlin in the flesh in a relaxed mode...
Love and Peace and Health
mmp
PS: Just remembered that I did experience the hybrid variant at the 11th WOSonOS in Sweden/Denmark in 2003... I was stunned by the amount of effort and time invested in the online part and how busy folks were with being connected worldwide... it was then and there that the hybridphobia caught me...
Am 20.03.2023 um 16:40 schrieb Hempal Shrestha via OSList:
WoW,
Wonderful, Anyone nearby or willing to come and join the circle in Nepal, Let's make it happen and sync with the WoSoNoS and connect our virtual seating along with the Virtual/Hybrid Open Space connecting all of us together.
An Open Space Enthusiast from Kathmandu, Nepal!
Kind regards,
Hempal Shrestha
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 at 21:09, gerardo de luzenberger via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:
I love the idea of going hybrid with WOSonOS.
Having multiple gatherings around the world - including in-person WOSonOs
for those that can make it would be a nice experiment and a great step
ahead of the 8 billion conversations around the world about the world.
Cheers
ge
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Il giorno lun 20 mar 2023 alle ore 16:03 marianella sclavi via OSList everyone@oslist.org ha scritto:
👏😊 Bravo Harrison !
splendid thought and proposal for an Amazing Desirable World
Marianella ( one of Gerardo's followers in Italy )
Il giorno lun 20 mar 2023 alle ore 15:55 Harrison Owen SR via OSList everyone@oslist.org ha scritto:
Recent discussion here about the location of WOSONOS set me to thinking. Our annual gathering has moved around the world from Moscow to Aussieland, stopovers in Chile and Iceland, and more.... Marvelous. Then came the plague and for three years nothing nowhere. Now it seems like we are back in business -- Berlin next year... Back to normal, so to speak.
In the meantime, and thanks to the plague, we have developed some deep experience with virtual Open Space, most recently with the Peace and High Performance "gathering" which always took place in New York, but this year happened in (I think ) 15 countries with 80+ participants. Very different from the prior experiences at International House but powerful and rich.
All of which brings me to the odd thought: Why go back to normal? Why not build on our plague generated experience and create a Hybrid WOSONOS with multiple sites and virtual connections. Simultaneously Gerardo and friends could host a gathering in Italy, Harold Shinsato could open some space in the USA, Christine might do the same from Paris... And everybody around the world would have the choice -- going to a place of their choosing and or joining anywhere around the world.
Could be massively enriching -- and possibly a dress rehearsal for my hoped for conversation with 8,000,000,000 people around the world. Now that would really be some good open space.
What do you say, Folks. It is all doable!
Harrison
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Dear all,
following the lively and rich conversation I am excited about all the future possibilities mentioned here. I do think that the discussion is one, that we need to have. With the possible implication of changing our tradition – for all good reasons, mentioned already.
At the same time, as one of a small team organizing the Berlin WOSonOS 2023 I need to confess, that for this year we do not have the resources to organize a hybrid format yet. I am saying this not to stop the thinking process (in contrary) but to manage expectations with regard to the event in 2023. I feel very hesitant to promise something in that direction. However, if someone feels ready to organize and put together a hybrid format, please get in touch.
We are happy to let you know that we sold about 20 tickets just after our initial positing for the WOSonOS in Berlin already. Seven participants from Europa and Asia even volunteer as co-invitors. This gives us confidence that the event will happen. We are happy to see this number grow. We still have some early bird tickets left: https://www.wosonos2023.berlin/
I am very much looking forward to continue this conversation (live or online).
Warm regards
Jo
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On Sun, Mar 26, 2023, at 10:04 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList wrote:
Exciting ideas and nice memories of our experiment in Swenmark, it was a joy to play with it!
To me its attractive to have several full, in person events and then simple ways to connect them and offer those who care to, to connect online and those who prefer to stay fully in the physical space to do so.
With appreciation
Thomas Herrmann
Från: Michael Herman via OSList <everyone@oslist.org>
Skickat: den 20 mars 2023 23:14
Till: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz@posteo.de>
Kopia: everyone@oslist.org
Ämne: [OSList] Re: Global WOSONOS
here are the notes from osonos 10 (marysville) and osonos 11 (swenmark) from where all the notes were posted online, at the same moment that they were posted on the wall at each venue. some lively discussion took place online in both cases, including after the events finished.
https://openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark
https://openspaceworld.org/cgi/oldwiki.cgi?MarysvilleAustralia
these would have been very different if we'd had zoom back then 2002 and 2003.
we did this with wiki at the time, as google docs was also not yet invented. today, this sort of globally shared documenting could happen easily in a google doc rather than a wiki.
somewhere between a single physical location and hybrid with online participation everywhere, there is a multi-(but few)-sites option: one space per continent, perhaps. each one still an exciting gathering of people from all over (mostly nearer than very far, but anyone could continent-hop if they wanted to). the sites could all contribute to a shared doc... thanks too google... and be linked together, with many individuals, via zoom... and, of course, qiqochat. wouldn't have to be limited to three sides of the globe, but that would seem to be the minimum number of sites required to effectively encircle the globe. maybe each physical location would set aside one breakout space where folks could check in with other locations and individuals online. that might simply be a "new and improved" "global hive" of the newsroom that we're already used to finding at any multi-day OS gathering. where all the notes are being typed directly to a globally shared doc, the three (or more) newsrooms are all on shared zoom, and all kinds of buzzing and fluttering participants might connect and eddy into various online breakout spaces. .
to the earlier oslist conversation about repeating in europe, this year and potentially next year... what if we didn't delay europe next year, but added an asian and an american location to it? three terrestrial gathering points around the globe/clock, one online always-open coffee bar, and one world-around community and a single online proceedings document?
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On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 3:03 PM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Dear Open Space enthusiasts near and far away,
folks or family visiting at birthdays, sitting around the christmas tree, neighbors walking by, people at the bus stop and in the bus, parents having an eye on their kids on the playground, folks on vacation on a wonderful island, a group of friends sitting at a table in a restaurant, couples watching Television... many of them neither present nor absent in a mode of perpetually holding on to a gadget being in touch with the entire world and everyone...
Gathering in Open Space in the flesh or virtual or in other variations, all have their right to exist.
Engaging in all at the same time (one group in a real life setting and other individuals or groups in virtual contact engaged in virtual space and other manifestations) is less than half the enchilada. Especially a mode that os facilitators abhor trying their best to be totally present and invisible at the same time...
Prerequisites for the unfolding of the the force of selforganisation are a burning issue, a hypercomplex situation, high diversity in the group of participants, an urgent need of results since yesterday, challenges that nobody by themselve has an answer to. Those prerequisites are also necessary for an action orienting Open Space on Open Space taking 16 hours spread over 3 days with two nights of sleep.
In getting projects on the road that grew in the 3 days, especially globally connected ones, need every tool available for managing the project, no question...
Regarding the venues for OSonOS events: In the years 2009 through 2017, regional "Learning Exchanges" were convened in the OSonOS mode in the years in which WOSonOS took place OUTSIDE of Europe.
We met in France/Paris in 2009, then in Italy/Sardinia 2011, in Holland/Utrecht in 2013, Spain/San Sebastian in 2016 and Iceland in 2017. These events were grand for folks that would not travel by plane or had limited resources or ...
In the face of climate change and other threats this kind of "regionalisation" might be the music of the future, ongoing wherever folks feel the time for an OSonOS has come in their neighborhood.
And the WOSonOS no longer in the flesh but global in whatever way.
Greetings from Berlin from an expert colleague that has never been in an online event or in a video conference or in the possesion of a cell phone (well, this year, my kids forced their 83 year old father to carry a cell phone to make calls and a few of them have my cell phone number, no one else) eagerly awaits his third WOSonOS in Berlin in the flesh in a relaxed mode...
Love and Peace and Health
mmp
PS: Just remembered that I did experience the hybrid variant at the 11th WOSonOS in Sweden/Denmark in 2003... I was stunned by the amount of effort and time invested in the online part and how busy folks were with being connected worldwide... it was then and there that the hybridphobia caught me...
Am 20.03.2023 um 16:40 schrieb Hempal Shrestha via OSList:
WoW,
Wonderful, Anyone nearby or willing to come and join the circle in Nepal, Let's make it happen and sync with the WoSoNoS and connect our virtual seating along with the Virtual/Hybrid Open Space connecting all of us together.
An Open Space Enthusiast from Kathmandu, Nepal!
Kind regards,
Hempal Shrestha
#Tech♪Know♫Legal* Specialist :-) Consultant | Researcher | Educator | Lawyer
G.P.O Box: 5501, Kathmandu, Nepal
Cell: +977-9851077031 | 9808166400
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 at 21:09, gerardo de luzenberger via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
I love the idea of going hybrid with WOSonOS.
Having multiple gatherings around the world - including in-person WOSonOs
for those that can make it would be a nice experiment and a great step
ahead of the 8 billion conversations around the world about the world.Cheers
ge
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Il giorno lun 20 mar 2023 alle ore 16:03 marianella sclavi via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> ha scritto:
👏😊 Bravo Harrison !
splendid thought and proposal for an Amazing Desirable World
Marianella ( one of Gerardo's followers in Italy )
Il giorno lun 20 mar 2023 alle ore 15:55 Harrison Owen SR via OSList <everyone@oslist.org> ha scritto:
Recent discussion here about the location of WOSONOS set me to thinking. Our annual gathering has moved around the world from Moscow to Aussieland, stopovers in Chile and Iceland, and more.... Marvelous. Then came the plague and for three years nothing nowhere. Now it seems like we are back in business -- Berlin next year... Back to normal, so to speak.
In the meantime, and thanks to the plague, we have developed some deep experience with virtual Open Space, most recently with the Peace and High Performance "gathering" which always took place in New York, but this year happened in (I think ) 15 countries with 80+ participants. Very different from the prior experiences at International House but powerful and rich.
All of which brings me to the odd thought: Why go back to normal? Why not build on our plague generated experience and create a Hybrid WOSONOS with multiple sites and virtual connections. Simultaneously Gerardo and friends could host a gathering in Italy, Harold Shinsato could open some space in the USA, Christine might do the same from Paris... And everybody around the world would have the choice -- going to a place of their choosing and or joining anywhere around the world.
Could be massively enriching -- and possibly a dress rehearsal for my hoped for conversation with 8,000,000,000 people around the world. Now that would really be some good open space.
What do you say, Folks. It is all doable!
Harrison
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In the spirit of simplicity...How about two global gatherings a year: one in-person somewhere in the world, one online?
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On Mar 31, 2023, at 2:41 AM, Jo Töpfer via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:
Dear all,
following the lively and rich conversation I am excited about all the future possibilities mentioned here. I do think that the discussion is one, that we need to have. With the possible implication of changing our tradition – for all good reasons, mentioned already.
At the same time, as one of a small team organizing the Berlin WOSonOS 2023 I need to confess, that for this year we do not have the resources to organize a hybrid format yet. I am saying this not to stop the thinking process (in contrary) but to manage expectations with regard to the event in 2023. I feel very hesitant to promise something in that direction. However, if someone feels ready to organize and put together a hybrid format, please get in touch.
We are happy to let you know that we sold about 20 tickets just after our initial positing for the WOSonOS in Berlin already. Seven participants from Europa and Asia even volunteer as co-invitors. This gives us confidence that the event will happen. We are happy to see this number grow. We still have some early bird tickets left: https://www.wosonos2023.berlin/
I am very much looking forward to continue this conversation (live or online).
Warm regards
Jo
Am 26.03.23 um 16:08 schrieb Skye via OSList:
There it is, freedom to oscillate, ah life creates with us so beautifully, thx for th dance all
On Sun, Mar 26, 2023, at 10:04 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList wrote:
Exciting ideas and nice memories of our experiment in Swenmark, it was a joy to play with it!
To me its attractive to have several full, in person events and then simple ways to connect them and offer those who care to, to connect online and those who prefer to stay fully in the physical space to do so.
With appreciation
Thomas Herrmann
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Ämne: [OSList] Re: Global WOSONOS
here are the notes from osonos 10 (marysville) and osonos 11 (swenmark) from where all the notes were posted online, at the same moment that they were posted on the wall at each venue. some lively discussion took place online in both cases, including after the events finished.
https://openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark
https://openspaceworld.org/cgi/oldwiki.cgi?MarysvilleAustralia
these would have been very different if we'd had zoom back then 2002 and 2003.
we did this with wiki at the time, as google docs was also not yet invented. today, this sort of globally shared documenting could happen easily in a google doc rather than a wiki.
somewhere between a single physical location and hybrid with online participation everywhere, there is a multi-(but few)-sites option: one space per continent, perhaps. each one still an exciting gathering of people from all over (mostly nearer than very far, but anyone could continent-hop if they wanted to). the sites could all contribute to a shared doc... thanks too google... and be linked together, with many individuals, via zoom... and, of course, qiqochat. wouldn't have to be limited to three sides of the globe, but that would seem to be the minimum number of sites required to effectively encircle the globe. maybe each physical location would set aside one breakout space where folks could check in with other locations and individuals online. that might simply be a "new and improved" "global hive" of the newsroom that we're already used to finding at any multi-day OS gathering. where all the notes are being typed directly to a globally shared doc, the three (or more) newsrooms are all on shared zoom, and all kinds of buzzing and fluttering participants might connect and eddy into various online breakout spaces. .
to the earlier oslist conversation about repeating in europe, this year and potentially next year... what if we didn't delay europe next year, but added an asian and an american location to it? three terrestrial gathering points around the globe/clock, one online always-open coffee bar, and one world-around community and a single online proceedings document?
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On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 3:03 PM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <everyone@oslist.org mailto:everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Dear Open Space enthusiasts near and far away,
folks or family visiting at birthdays, sitting around the christmas tree, neighbors walking by, people at the bus stop and in the bus, parents having an eye on their kids on the playground, folks on vacation on a wonderful island, a group of friends sitting at a table in a restaurant, couples watching Television... many of them neither present nor absent in a mode of perpetually holding on to a gadget being in touch with the entire world and everyone...
Gathering in Open Space in the flesh or virtual or in other variations, all have their right to exist.
Engaging in all at the same time (one group in a real life setting and other individuals or groups in virtual contact engaged in virtual space and other manifestations) is less than half the enchilada. Especially a mode that os facilitators abhor trying their best to be totally present and invisible at the same time...
Prerequisites for the unfolding of the the force of selforganisation are a burning issue, a hypercomplex situation, high diversity in the group of participants, an urgent need of results since yesterday, challenges that nobody by themselve has an answer to. Those prerequisites are also necessary for an action orienting Open Space on Open Space taking 16 hours spread over 3 days with two nights of sleep.
In getting projects on the road that grew in the 3 days, especially globally connected ones, need every tool available for managing the project, no question...
Regarding the venues for OSonOS events: In the years 2009 through 2017, regional "Learning Exchanges" were convened in the OSonOS mode in the years in which WOSonOS took place OUTSIDE of Europe.
We met in France/Paris in 2009, then in Italy/Sardinia 2011, in Holland/Utrecht in 2013, Spain/San Sebastian in 2016 and Iceland in 2017. These events were grand for folks that would not travel by plane or had limited resources or ...
In the face of climate change and other threats this kind of "regionalisation" might be the music of the future, ongoing wherever folks feel the time for an OSonOS has come in their neighborhood.
And the WOSonOS no longer in the flesh but global in whatever way.
Greetings from Berlin from an expert colleague that has never been in an online event or in a video conference or in the possesion of a cell phone (well, this year, my kids forced their 83 year old father to carry a cell phone to make calls and a few of them have my cell phone number, no one else) eagerly awaits his third WOSonOS in Berlin in the flesh in a relaxed mode...
Love and Peace and Health
mmp
PS: Just remembered that I did experience the hybrid variant at the 11th WOSonOS in Sweden/Denmark in 2003... I was stunned by the amount of effort and time invested in the online part and how busy folks were with being connected worldwide... it was then and there that the hybridphobia caught me...
Am 20.03.2023 um 16:40 schrieb Hempal Shrestha via OSList:
WoW,
Wonderful, Anyone nearby or willing to come and join the circle in Nepal, Let's make it happen and sync with the WoSoNoS and connect our virtual seating along with the Virtual/Hybrid Open Space connecting all of us together.
An Open Space Enthusiast from Kathmandu, Nepal!
Kind regards,
Hempal Shrestha
#Tech♪Know♫Legal* Specialist :-) Consultant | Researcher | Educator | Lawyer
G.P.O Box: 5501, Kathmandu, Nepal
Cell: +977-9851077031 | 9808166400
Viber /Telegram /WhatsApp: +977-9851077031
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 at 21:09, gerardo de luzenberger via OSList <everyone@oslist.org mailto:everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
I love the idea of going hybrid with WOSonOS.
Having multiple gatherings around the world - including in-person WOSonOs
for those that can make it would be a nice experiment and a great step
ahead of the 8 billion conversations around the world about the world.
Cheers
ge
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Il giorno lun 20 mar 2023 alle ore 16:03 marianella sclavi via OSList <everyone@oslist.org mailto:everyone@oslist.org> ha scritto:
👏😊 Bravo Harrison !
splendid thought and proposal for an Amazing Desirable World
Marianella ( one of Gerardo's followers in Italy )
Il giorno lun 20 mar 2023 alle ore 15:55 Harrison Owen SR via OSList <everyone@oslist.org mailto:everyone@oslist.org> ha scritto:
Recent discussion here about the location of WOSONOS set me to thinking. Our annual gathering has moved around the world from Moscow to Aussieland, stopovers in Chile and Iceland, and more.... Marvelous. Then came the plague and for three years nothing nowhere. Now it seems like we are back in business -- Berlin next year... Back to normal, so to speak.
In the meantime, and thanks to the plague, we have developed some deep experience with virtual Open Space, most recently with the Peace and High Performance "gathering" which always took place in New York, but this year happened in (I think ) 15 countries with 80+ participants. Very different from the prior experiences at International House but powerful and rich.
All of which brings me to the odd thought: Why go back to normal? Why not build on our plague generated experience and create a Hybrid WOSONOS with multiple sites and virtual connections. Simultaneously Gerardo and friends could host a gathering in Italy, Harold Shinsato could open some space in the USA, Christine might do the same from Paris... And everybody around the world would have the choice -- going to a place of their choosing and or joining anywhere around the world.
Could be massively enriching -- and possibly a dress rehearsal for my hoped for conversation with 8,000,000,000 people around the world. Now that would really be some good open space.
What do you say, Folks. It is all doable!
Harrison
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Following your simplicity, Peggy... it occurs to me that the thing that
makes OS possible, in a big room, is having the big open wall to post
issues and news from the sessions. So the simplest way to do OS in a big
world, would be to post issues and news reports to a common wall.... which
we already have, here on the OS list. (or at qiqo, or at openspaceworld.org,
or google docs... but OSLIST is the oldest and simplest and most accessible
and easiest to archive.)
IF the conveners in Berlin, and any other gatherings, online or other
places, simply agree/commit to using the OSLIST as [at least one of] the
places they post their agendas and all of their session notes, THEN all
kinds of things can happen, in all kinds of places, and everyone can easily
track all of it in their email. AND it juices the OSLIST conversation
annually or whenever anyone convenes any sort of OSonOS event, large annual
global/regional conference or small local evening bar chat.
When OSonOS started, the notes were a very simple affair and at they were
available in print form on the morning of the third day. No reason they
can't be that simple again. And shared in real time with a much larger
community of practitioners here on the OSLIST.
m
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Michael Herman Associates
312-280-7838 (mobile)
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On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 11:32 AM Peggy Holman via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
So many possibilities!
In the spirit of simplicity...How about two global gatherings a year: one
in-person somewhere in the world, one online?
Since Jo and others are already organizing something in person, that would
take a few people to step in and volunteer to organize an online convening.
Anyone game?
Peggy
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On Mar 31, 2023, at 2:41 AM, Jo Töpfer via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:
Dear all,
following the lively and rich conversation I am excited about all the
future possibilities mentioned here. I do think that the discussion is one,
that we need to have. With the possible implication of changing our
tradition – for all good reasons, mentioned already.
At the same time, as one of a small team organizing the Berlin WOSonOS
2023 I need to confess, that for this year we do not have the resources to
organize a hybrid format yet. I am saying this not to stop the thinking
process (in contrary) but to manage expectations with regard to the event
in 2023. I feel very hesitant to promise something in that direction.
However, if someone feels ready to organize and put together a hybrid
format, please get in touch.
We are happy to let you know that we sold about 20 tickets just after our
initial positing for the WOSonOS in Berlin already. Seven participants from
Europa and Asia even volunteer as co-invitors. This gives us confidence
that the event will happen. We are happy to see this number grow. We still
have some early bird tickets left: https://www.wosonos2023.berlin/
I am very much looking forward to continue this conversation (live or
online).
Warm regards
Jo
Am 26.03.23 um 16:08 schrieb Skye via OSList:
There it is, freedom to oscillate, ah life creates with us so beautifully,
thx for th dance all
On Sun, Mar 26, 2023, at 10:04 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList wrote:
Exciting ideas and nice memories of our experiment in Swenmark, it was a
joy to play with it!
To me its attractive to have several full, in person events and then
simple ways to connect them and offer those who care to, to connect online
and those who prefer to stay fully in the physical space to do so.
With appreciation
Thomas Herrmann
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Skickat: den 20 mars 2023 23:14
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Ämne: [OSList] Re: Global WOSONOS
here are the notes from osonos 10 (marysville) and osonos 11 (swenmark)
from where all the notes were posted online, at the same moment that they
were posted on the wall at each venue. some lively discussion took place
online in both cases, including after the events finished.
https://openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark
https://openspaceworld.org/cgi/oldwiki.cgi?MarysvilleAustralia
these would have been very different if we'd had zoom back then 2002 and
2003.
we did this with wiki at the time, as google docs was also not yet
invented. today, this sort of globally shared documenting could happen
easily in a google doc rather than a wiki.
somewhere between a single physical location and hybrid with online
participation everywhere, there is a multi-(but few)-sites option: one
space per continent, perhaps. each one still an exciting gathering of
people from all over (mostly nearer than very far, but anyone could
continent-hop if they wanted to). the sites could all contribute to a
shared doc... thanks too google... and be linked together, with many
individuals, via zoom... and, of course, qiqochat. wouldn't have to be
limited to three sides of the globe, but that would seem to be the minimum
number of sites required to effectively encircle the globe. maybe each
physical location would set aside one breakout space where folks could
check in with other locations and individuals online. that might simply be
a "new and improved" "global hive" of the newsroom that we're already used
to finding at any multi-day OS gathering. where all the notes are being
typed directly to a globally shared doc, the three (or more) newsrooms are
all on shared zoom, and all kinds of buzzing and fluttering participants
might connect and eddy into various online breakout spaces. .
to the earlier oslist conversation about repeating in europe, this year
and potentially next year... what if we didn't delay europe next year, but
added an asian and an american location to it? three terrestrial gathering
points around the globe/clock, one online always-open coffee bar, and one
world-around community and a single online proceedings document?
michael
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On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 3:03 PM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Dear Open Space enthusiasts near and far away,
folks or family visiting at birthdays, sitting around the christmas tree,
neighbors walking by, people at the bus stop and in the bus, parents having
an eye on their kids on the playground, folks on vacation on a wonderful
island, a group of friends sitting at a table in a restaurant, couples
watching Television... many of them neither present nor absent in a mode
of perpetually holding on to a gadget being in touch with the entire world
and everyone...
Gathering in Open Space in the flesh or virtual or in other variations,
all have their right to exist.
Engaging in all at the same time (one group in a real life setting and
other individuals or groups in virtual contact engaged in virtual space and
other manifestations) is less than half the enchilada. Especially a mode
that os facilitators abhor trying their best to be totally present and
invisible at the same time...
Prerequisites for the unfolding of the the force of selforganisation are a
burning issue, a hypercomplex situation, high diversity in the group of
participants, an urgent need of results since yesterday, challenges that
nobody by themselve has an answer to. Those prerequisites are also
necessary for an action orienting Open Space on Open Space taking 16 hours
spread over 3 days with two nights of sleep.
In getting projects on the road that grew in the 3 days, especially
globally connected ones, need every tool available for managing the
project, no question...
Regarding the venues for OSonOS events: In the years 2009 through 2017,
regional "Learning Exchanges" were convened in the OSonOS mode in the years
in which WOSonOS took place OUTSIDE of Europe.
We met in France/Paris in 2009, then in Italy/Sardinia 2011, in
Holland/Utrecht in 2013, Spain/San Sebastian in 2016 and Iceland in 2017.
These events were grand for folks that would not travel by plane or had
limited resources or ...
In the face of climate change and other threats this kind of
"regionalisation" might be the music of the future, ongoing wherever folks
feel the time for an OSonOS has come in their neighborhood.
And the WOSonOS no longer in the flesh but global in whatever way.
Greetings from Berlin from an expert colleague that has never been in an
online event or in a video conference or in the possesion of a cell phone
(well, this year, my kids forced their 83 year old father to carry a cell
phone to make calls and a few of them have my cell phone number, no one
else) eagerly awaits his third WOSonOS in Berlin in the flesh in a relaxed
mode...
Love and Peace and Health
mmp
PS: Just remembered that I did experience the hybrid variant at the 11th
WOSonOS in Sweden/Denmark in 2003... I was stunned by the amount of effort
and time invested in the online part and how busy folks were with being
connected worldwide... it was then and there that the hybridphobia caught
me...
Am 20.03.2023 um 16:40 schrieb Hempal Shrestha via OSList:
WoW,
Wonderful, Anyone nearby or willing to come and join the circle in Nepal,
Let's make it happen and sync with the WoSoNoS and connect our virtual
seating along with the Virtual/Hybrid Open Space connecting all of us
together.
An Open Space Enthusiast from Kathmandu, Nepal!
Kind regards,
Hempal Shrestha
#Tech♪Know♫Legal Specialist :-) Consultant | Researcher | Educator |
Lawyer*
G.P.O Box: 5501, Kathmandu, Nepal
Cell: +977-9851077031 | 9808166400
Viber /Telegram /WhatsApp: +977-9851077031
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 at 21:09, gerardo de luzenberger via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
I love the idea of going hybrid with WOSonOS.
Having multiple gatherings around the world - including in-person WOSonOs
for those that can make it would be a nice experiment and a great step
ahead of the 8 billion conversations around the world about the world.
Cheers
ge
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Il giorno lun 20 mar 2023 alle ore 16:03 marianella sclavi via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> ha scritto:
👏😊 Bravo Harrison !
splendid thought and proposal for an Amazing Desirable World
Marianella ( one of Gerardo's followers in Italy )
Il giorno lun 20 mar 2023 alle ore 15:55 Harrison Owen SR via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> ha scritto:
Recent discussion here about the location of WOSONOS set me to thinking.
Our annual gathering has moved around the world from Moscow to Aussieland,
stopovers in Chile and Iceland, and more.... Marvelous. Then came the
plague and for three years nothing nowhere. Now it seems like we are back
in business -- Berlin next year... Back to normal, so to speak.
In the meantime, and thanks to the plague, we have developed some deep
experience with virtual Open Space, most recently with the Peace and High
Performance "gathering" which always took place in New York, but this year
happened in (I think ) 15 countries with 80+ participants. Very different
from the prior experiences at International House but powerful and rich.
All of which brings me to the odd thought: Why go back to normal? Why not
build on our plague generated experience and create a Hybrid WOSONOS with
multiple sites and virtual connections. Simultaneously Gerardo and friends
could host a gathering in Italy, Harold Shinsato could open some space in
the USA, Christine might do the same from Paris... And everybody around
the world would have the choice -- going to a place of their choosing and
or joining anywhere around the world.
Could be massively enriching -- and possibly a dress rehearsal for my
hoped for conversation with 8,000,000,000 people around the world. Now that
would really be some good open space.
What do you say, Folks. It is all doable!
Harrison
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Dear Space Openers!
When listening to this conversation, this principle comes to mind:
[image: Wherever it happens is the right place.png]
The symbol in the center is the street sign of the Tahrir Square here in
Egypt
which hosted for 18 days one of the biggest public Open Spaces from Jan. 25
until Feb. 11, 2011.
Self-organization in action!
Sunny greetings,
Claudia
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On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 7:48 PM Michael Herman via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Following your simplicity, Peggy... it occurs to me that the thing that
makes OS possible, in a big room, is having the big open wall to post
issues and news from the sessions. So the simplest way to do OS in a big
world, would be to post issues and news reports to a common wall.... which
we already have, here on the OS list. (or at qiqo, or at
openspaceworld.org, or google docs... but OSLIST is the oldest and
simplest and most accessible and easiest to archive.)
IF the conveners in Berlin, and any other gatherings, online or other
places, simply agree/commit to using the OSLIST as [at least one of] the
places they post their agendas and all of their session notes, THEN all
kinds of things can happen, in all kinds of places, and everyone can easily
track all of it in their email. AND it juices the OSLIST conversation
annually or whenever anyone convenes any sort of OSonOS event, large annual
global/regional conference or small local evening bar chat.
When OSonOS started, the notes were a very simple affair and at they were
available in print form on the morning of the third day. No reason they
can't be that simple again. And shared in real time with a much larger
community of practitioners here on the OSLIST.
m
--
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Michael Herman Associates
312-280-7838 (mobile)
MichaelHerman.com
OpenSpaceWorld.org
On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 11:32 AM Peggy Holman via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
So many possibilities!
In the spirit of simplicity...How about two global gatherings a year: one
in-person somewhere in the world, one online?
Since Jo and others are already organizing something in person, that
would take a few people to step in and volunteer to organize an online
convening. Anyone game?
Peggy
Peggy Holman
peggy@peggyholman.com
Twitter: @peggyholman
Bellevue, WA 98006
206-948-0432
www.peggyholman.com
www.journalismthatmatters.org
Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval
into Opportunity http://www.engagingemergence.com
"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get
burnt, is to become
the fire".
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On Mar 31, 2023, at 2:41 AM, Jo Töpfer via OSList everyone@oslist.org
wrote:
Dear all,
following the lively and rich conversation I am excited about all the
future possibilities mentioned here. I do think that the discussion is one,
that we need to have. With the possible implication of changing our
tradition – for all good reasons, mentioned already.
At the same time, as one of a small team organizing the Berlin WOSonOS
2023 I need to confess, that for this year we do not have the resources to
organize a hybrid format yet. I am saying this not to stop the thinking
process (in contrary) but to manage expectations with regard to the event
in 2023. I feel very hesitant to promise something in that direction.
However, if someone feels ready to organize and put together a hybrid
format, please get in touch.
We are happy to let you know that we sold about 20 tickets just after our
initial positing for the WOSonOS in Berlin already. Seven participants from
Europa and Asia even volunteer as co-invitors. This gives us confidence
that the event will happen. We are happy to see this number grow. We still
have some early bird tickets left: https://www.wosonos2023.berlin/
I am very much looking forward to continue this conversation (live or
online).
Warm regards
Jo
Am 26.03.23 um 16:08 schrieb Skye via OSList:
There it is, freedom to oscillate, ah life creates with us so
beautifully, thx for th dance all
On Sun, Mar 26, 2023, at 10:04 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList wrote:
Exciting ideas and nice memories of our experiment in Swenmark, it was a
joy to play with it!
To me its attractive to have several full, in person events and then
simple ways to connect them and offer those who care to, to connect online
and those who prefer to stay fully in the physical space to do so.
With appreciation
Thomas Herrmann
Från: Michael Herman via OSList everyone@oslist.org
everyone@oslist.org
Skickat: den 20 mars 2023 23:14
Till: Michael M Pannwitz mmpannwitz@posteo.de mmpannwitz@posteo.de
Kopia: everyone@oslist.org
Ämne: [OSList] Re: Global WOSONOS
here are the notes from osonos 10 (marysville) and osonos 11 (swenmark)
from where all the notes were posted online, at the same moment that they
were posted on the wall at each venue. some lively discussion took place
online in both cases, including after the events finished.
https://openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark
https://openspaceworld.org/cgi/oldwiki.cgi?MarysvilleAustralia
these would have been very different if we'd had zoom back then 2002 and
2003.
we did this with wiki at the time, as google docs was also not yet
invented. today, this sort of globally shared documenting could happen
easily in a google doc rather than a wiki.
somewhere between a single physical location and hybrid with online
participation everywhere, there is a multi-(but few)-sites option: one
space per continent, perhaps. each one still an exciting gathering of
people from all over (mostly nearer than very far, but anyone could
continent-hop if they wanted to). the sites could all contribute to a
shared doc... thanks too google... and be linked together, with many
individuals, via zoom... and, of course, qiqochat. wouldn't have to be
limited to three sides of the globe, but that would seem to be the minimum
number of sites required to effectively encircle the globe. maybe each
physical location would set aside one breakout space where folks could
check in with other locations and individuals online. that might simply be
a "new and improved" "global hive" of the newsroom that we're already used
to finding at any multi-day OS gathering. where all the notes are being
typed directly to a globally shared doc, the three (or more) newsrooms are
all on shared zoom, and all kinds of buzzing and fluttering participants
might connect and eddy into various online breakout spaces. .
to the earlier oslist conversation about repeating in europe, this year
and potentially next year... what if we didn't delay europe next year, but
added an asian and an american location to it? three terrestrial gathering
points around the globe/clock, one online always-open coffee bar, and one
world-around community and a single online proceedings document?
michael
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On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 3:03 PM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Dear Open Space enthusiasts near and far away,
folks or family visiting at birthdays, sitting around the christmas tree,
neighbors walking by, people at the bus stop and in the bus, parents having
an eye on their kids on the playground, folks on vacation on a wonderful
island, a group of friends sitting at a table in a restaurant, couples
watching Television... many of them neither present nor absent in a mode
of perpetually holding on to a gadget being in touch with the entire world
and everyone...
Gathering in Open Space in the flesh or virtual or in other variations,
all have their right to exist.
Engaging in all at the same time (one group in a real life setting and
other individuals or groups in virtual contact engaged in virtual space and
other manifestations) is less than half the enchilada. Especially a mode
that os facilitators abhor trying their best to be totally present and
invisible at the same time...
Prerequisites for the unfolding of the the force of selforganisation are
a burning issue, a hypercomplex situation, high diversity in the group of
participants, an urgent need of results since yesterday, challenges that
nobody by themselve has an answer to. Those prerequisites are also
necessary for an action orienting Open Space on Open Space taking 16 hours
spread over 3 days with two nights of sleep.
In getting projects on the road that grew in the 3 days, especially
globally connected ones, need every tool available for managing the
project, no question...
Regarding the venues for OSonOS events: In the years 2009 through 2017,
regional "Learning Exchanges" were convened in the OSonOS mode in the years
in which WOSonOS took place OUTSIDE of Europe.
We met in France/Paris in 2009, then in Italy/Sardinia 2011, in
Holland/Utrecht in 2013, Spain/San Sebastian in 2016 and Iceland in 2017.
These events were grand for folks that would not travel by plane or had
limited resources or ...
In the face of climate change and other threats this kind of
"regionalisation" might be the music of the future, ongoing wherever folks
feel the time for an OSonOS has come in their neighborhood.
And the WOSonOS no longer in the flesh but global in whatever way.
Greetings from Berlin from an expert colleague that has never been in an
online event or in a video conference or in the possesion of a cell phone
(well, this year, my kids forced their 83 year old father to carry a cell
phone to make calls and a few of them have my cell phone number, no one
else) eagerly awaits his third WOSonOS in Berlin in the flesh in a relaxed
mode...
Love and Peace and Health
mmp
PS: Just remembered that I did experience the hybrid variant at the 11th
WOSonOS in Sweden/Denmark in 2003... I was stunned by the amount of effort
and time invested in the online part and how busy folks were with being
connected worldwide... it was then and there that the hybridphobia caught
me...
Am 20.03.2023 um 16:40 schrieb Hempal Shrestha via OSList:
WoW,
Wonderful, Anyone nearby or willing to come and join the circle in Nepal,
Let's make it happen and sync with the WoSoNoS and connect our virtual
seating along with the Virtual/Hybrid Open Space connecting all of us
together.
An Open Space Enthusiast from Kathmandu, Nepal!
Kind regards,
Hempal Shrestha
#Tech♪Know♫Legal Specialist :-) Consultant | Researcher | Educator |
Lawyer*
G.P.O Box: 5501, Kathmandu, Nepal
Cell: +977-9851077031 | 9808166400
Viber /Telegram /WhatsApp: +977-9851077031
Email: hempalshrestha@gmail.com | Skype: hempalshrestha
On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 at 21:09, gerardo de luzenberger via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
I love the idea of going hybrid with WOSonOS.
Having multiple gatherings around the world - including in-person WOSonOs
for those that can make it would be a nice experiment and a great step
ahead of the 8 billion conversations around the world about the world.
Cheers
ge
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Il giorno lun 20 mar 2023 alle ore 16:03 marianella sclavi via OSList <
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👏😊 Bravo Harrison !
splendid thought and proposal for an Amazing Desirable World
Marianella ( one of Gerardo's followers in Italy )
Il giorno lun 20 mar 2023 alle ore 15:55 Harrison Owen SR via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> ha scritto:
Recent discussion here about the location of WOSONOS set me to thinking.
Our annual gathering has moved around the world from Moscow to Aussieland,
stopovers in Chile and Iceland, and more.... Marvelous. Then came the
plague and for three years nothing nowhere. Now it seems like we are back
in business -- Berlin next year... Back to normal, so to speak.
In the meantime, and thanks to the plague, we have developed some deep
experience with virtual Open Space, most recently with the Peace and High
Performance "gathering" which always took place in New York, but this year
happened in (I think ) 15 countries with 80+ participants. Very different
from the prior experiences at International House but powerful and rich.
All of which brings me to the odd thought: Why go back to normal? Why not
build on our plague generated experience and create a Hybrid WOSONOS with
multiple sites and virtual connections. Simultaneously Gerardo and friends
could host a gathering in Italy, Harold Shinsato could open some space in
the USA, Christine might do the same from Paris... And everybody around
the world would have the choice -- going to a place of their choosing and
or joining anywhere around the world.
Could be massively enriching -- and possibly a dress rehearsal for my
hoped for conversation with 8,000,000,000 people around the world. Now that
would really be some good open space.
What do you say, Folks. It is all doable!
Harrison
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Dear Space Openers!
When listening to this conversation, this principle comes to mind:
The symbol in the center is the street sign of the Tahrir Square here in Egypt
which hosted for 18 days one of the biggest public Open Spaces from Jan. 25 until Feb. 11, 2011.
Self-organization in action!
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On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 7:48 PM Michael Herman via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:
Following your simplicity, Peggy... it occurs to me that the thing that makes OS possible, in a big room, is having the big open wall to post issues and news from the sessions. So the simplest way to do OS in a big world, would be to post issues and news reports to a common wall.... which we already have, here on the OS list. (or at qiqo, or at openspaceworld.org, or google docs... but OSLIST is the oldest and simplest and most accessible and easiest to archive.)
IF the conveners in Berlin, and any other gatherings, online or other places, simply agree/commit to using the OSLIST as [at least one of] the places they post their agendas and all of their session notes, THEN all kinds of things can happen, in all kinds of places, and everyone can easily track all of it in their email. AND it juices the OSLIST conversation annually or whenever anyone convenes any sort of OSonOS event, large annual global/regional conference or small local evening bar chat.
When OSonOS started, the notes were a very simple affair and at they were available in print form on the morning of the third day. No reason they can't be that simple again. And shared in real time with a much larger community of practitioners here on the OSLIST.
m
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On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 11:32 AM Peggy Holman via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:
So many possibilities!
In the spirit of simplicity...How about two global gatherings a year: one in-person somewhere in the world, one online?
Since Jo and others are already organizing something in person, that would take a few people to step in and volunteer to organize an online convening. Anyone game?
Peggy
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On Mar 31, 2023, at 2:41 AM, Jo Töpfer via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:
Dear all,
following the lively and rich conversation I am excited about all the future possibilities mentioned here. I do think that the discussion is one, that we need to have. With the possible implication of changing our tradition – for all good reasons, mentioned already.
At the same time, as one of a small team organizing the Berlin WOSonOS 2023 I need to confess, that for this year we do not have the resources to organize a hybrid format yet. I am saying this not to stop the thinking process (in contrary) but to manage expectations with regard to the event in 2023. I feel very hesitant to promise something in that direction. However, if someone feels ready to organize and put together a hybrid format, please get in touch.
We are happy to let you know that we sold about 20 tickets just after our initial positing for the WOSonOS in Berlin already. Seven participants from Europa and Asia even volunteer as co-invitors. This gives us confidence that the event will happen. We are happy to see this number grow. We still have some early bird tickets left: https://www.wosonos2023.berlin/
I am very much looking forward to continue this conversation (live or online).
Warm regards
Jo
Am 26.03.23 um 16:08 schrieb Skye via OSList:
There it is, freedom to oscillate, ah life creates with us so beautifully, thx for th dance all
On Sun, Mar 26, 2023, at 10:04 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList wrote:
Exciting ideas and nice memories of our experiment in Swenmark, it was a joy to play with it!
To me its attractive to have several full, in person events and then simple ways to connect them and offer those who care to, to connect online and those who prefer to stay fully in the physical space to do so.
With appreciation
Thomas Herrmann
Från: Michael Herman via OSList everyone@oslist.org
Skickat: den 20 mars 2023 23:14
Till: Michael M Pannwitz mmpannwitz@posteo.de
Kopia: everyone@oslist.org
Ämne: [OSList] Re: Global WOSONOS
here are the notes from osonos 10 (marysville) and osonos 11 (swenmark) from where all the notes were posted online, at the same moment that they were posted on the wall at each venue. some lively discussion took place online in both cases, including after the events finished.
https://openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark
https://openspaceworld.org/cgi/oldwiki.cgi?MarysvilleAustralia
these would have been very different if we'd had zoom back then 2002 and 2003.
we did this with wiki at the time, as google docs was also not yet invented. today, this sort of globally shared documenting could happen easily in a google doc rather than a wiki.
somewhere between a single physical location and hybrid with online participation everywhere, there is a multi-(but few)-sites option: one space per continent, perhaps. each one still an exciting gathering of people from all over (mostly nearer than very far, but anyone could continent-hop if they wanted to). the sites could all contribute to a shared doc... thanks too google... and be linked together, with many individuals, via zoom... and, of course, qiqochat. wouldn't have to be limited to three sides of the globe, but that would seem to be the minimum number of sites required to effectively encircle the globe. maybe each physical location would set aside one breakout space where folks could check in with other locations and individuals online. that might simply be a "new and improved" "global hive" of the newsroom that we're already used to finding at any multi-day OS gathering. where all the notes are being typed directly to a globally shared doc, the three (or more) newsrooms are all on shared zoom, and all kinds of buzzing and fluttering participants might connect and eddy into various online breakout spaces. .
to the earlier oslist conversation about repeating in europe, this year and potentially next year... what if we didn't delay europe next year, but added an asian and an american location to it? three terrestrial gathering points around the globe/clock, one online always-open coffee bar, and one world-around community and a single online proceedings document?
michael
Michael Herman
Michael Herman Associates
312-280-7838 (mobile)
MichaelHerman.com
OpenSpaceWorld.org
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 3:03 PM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:
Dear Open Space enthusiasts near and far away,
folks or family visiting at birthdays, sitting around the christmas tree, neighbors walking by, people at the bus stop and in the bus, parents having an eye on their kids on the playground, folks on vacation on a wonderful island, a group of friends sitting at a table in a restaurant, couples watching Television... many of them neither present nor absent in a mode of perpetually holding on to a gadget being in touch with the entire world and everyone...
Gathering in Open Space in the flesh or virtual or in other variations, all have their right to exist.
Engaging in all at the same time (one group in a real life setting and other individuals or groups in virtual contact engaged in virtual space and other manifestations) is less than half the enchilada. Especially a mode that os facilitators abhor trying their best to be totally present and invisible at the same time...
Prerequisites for the unfolding of the the force of selforganisation are a burning issue, a hypercomplex situation, high diversity in the group of participants, an urgent need of results since yesterday, challenges that nobody by themselve has an answer to. Those prerequisites are also necessary for an action orienting Open Space on Open Space taking 16 hours spread over 3 days with two nights of sleep.
In getting projects on the road that grew in the 3 days, especially globally connected ones, need every tool available for managing the project, no question...
Regarding the venues for OSonOS events: In the years 2009 through 2017, regional "Learning Exchanges" were convened in the OSonOS mode in the years in which WOSonOS took place OUTSIDE of Europe.
We met in France/Paris in 2009, then in Italy/Sardinia 2011, in Holland/Utrecht in 2013, Spain/San Sebastian in 2016 and Iceland in 2017. These events were grand for folks that would not travel by plane or had limited resources or ...
In the face of climate change and other threats this kind of "regionalisation" might be the music of the future, ongoing wherever folks feel the time for an OSonOS has come in their neighborhood.
And the WOSonOS no longer in the flesh but global in whatever way.
Greetings from Berlin from an expert colleague that has never been in an online event or in a video conference or in the possesion of a cell phone (well, this year, my kids forced their 83 year old father to carry a cell phone to make calls and a few of them have my cell phone number, no one else) eagerly awaits his third WOSonOS in Berlin in the flesh in a relaxed mode...
Love and Peace and Health
mmp
PS: Just remembered that I did experience the hybrid variant at the 11th WOSonOS in Sweden/Denmark in 2003... I was stunned by the amount of effort and time invested in the online part and how busy folks were with being connected worldwide... it was then and there that the hybridphobia caught me...
Am 20.03.2023 um 16:40 schrieb Hempal Shrestha via OSList:
WoW,
Wonderful, Anyone nearby or willing to come and join the circle in Nepal, Let's make it happen and sync with the WoSoNoS and connect our virtual seating along with the Virtual/Hybrid Open Space connecting all of us together.
An Open Space Enthusiast from Kathmandu, Nepal!
Kind regards,
Hempal Shrestha
#Tech♪Know♫Legal* Specialist :-) Consultant | Researcher | Educator | Lawyer
G.P.O Box: 5501, Kathmandu, Nepal
Cell: +977-9851077031 | 9808166400
Viber /Telegram /WhatsApp: +977-9851077031
Email: hempalshrestha@gmail.com | Skype: hempalshrestha
On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 at 21:09, gerardo de luzenberger via OSList everyone@oslist.org wrote:
I love the idea of going hybrid with WOSonOS.
Having multiple gatherings around the world - including in-person WOSonOs
for those that can make it would be a nice experiment and a great step
ahead of the 8 billion conversations around the world about the world.Cheers
ge
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Il giorno lun 20 mar 2023 alle ore 16:03 marianella sclavi via OSList everyone@oslist.org ha scritto:
👏😊 Bravo Harrison !
splendid thought and proposal for an Amazing Desirable World
Marianella ( one of Gerardo's followers in Italy )
Il giorno lun 20 mar 2023 alle ore 15:55 Harrison Owen SR via OSList everyone@oslist.org ha scritto:
Recent discussion here about the location of WOSONOS set me to thinking. Our annual gathering has moved around the world from Moscow to Aussieland, stopovers in Chile and Iceland, and more.... Marvelous. Then came the plague and for three years nothing nowhere. Now it seems like we are back in business -- Berlin next year... Back to normal, so to speak.
In the meantime, and thanks to the plague, we have developed some deep experience with virtual Open Space, most recently with the Peace and High Performance "gathering" which always took place in New York, but this year happened in (I think ) 15 countries with 80+ participants. Very different from the prior experiences at International House but powerful and rich.
All of which brings me to the odd thought: Why go back to normal? Why not build on our plague generated experience and create a Hybrid WOSONOS with multiple sites and virtual connections. Simultaneously Gerardo and friends could host a gathering in Italy, Harold Shinsato could open some space in the USA, Christine might do the same from Paris... And everybody around the world would have the choice -- going to a place of their choosing and or joining anywhere around the world.
Could be massively enriching -- and possibly a dress rehearsal for my hoped for conversation with 8,000,000,000 people around the world. Now that would really be some good open space.
What do you say, Folks. It is all doable!
Harrison
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Potomac, MD 20854 USA
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So interesting-- the Vatican Foundation Fratelli tutti has been inspired
by one of the current encyclicals on fraternity, to gather all the Nobel
Peace Laureates and other personalities to draft a Call to the Commitment
for Human Fraternity, and then in the afternoon present it to Pope Francis
and other world leaders and eminent personalities gathered in St. Peter's
Square and other famous squares around the world (Tahrir, Tienanmen, etc.)
On Sat, Apr 1, 2023 at 2:13 AM Dr. Claudia Gross via OSList <
everyone@oslist.org> wrote:
Dear Space Openers!
When listening to this conversation, this principle comes to mind:
[image: Wherever it happens is the right place.png]
The symbol in the center is the street sign of the Tahrir Square here in
Egypt
which hosted for 18 days one of the biggest public Open Spaces from Jan.
25 until Feb. 11, 2011.
Self-organization in action!
Sunny greetings,
Claudia
Dr. Claudia Gross
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On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 7:48 PM Michael Herman via OSList <
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Following your simplicity, Peggy... it occurs to me that the thing that
makes OS possible, in a big room, is having the big open wall to post
issues and news from the sessions. So the simplest way to do OS in a big
world, would be to post issues and news reports to a common wall.... which
we already have, here on the OS list. (or at qiqo, or at
openspaceworld.org, or google docs... but OSLIST is the oldest and
simplest and most accessible and easiest to archive.)
IF the conveners in Berlin, and any other gatherings, online or other
places, simply agree/commit to using the OSLIST as [at least one of] the
places they post their agendas and all of their session notes, THEN all
kinds of things can happen, in all kinds of places, and everyone can easily
track all of it in their email. AND it juices the OSLIST conversation
annually or whenever anyone convenes any sort of OSonOS event, large annual
global/regional conference or small local evening bar chat.
When OSonOS started, the notes were a very simple affair and at they were
available in print form on the morning of the third day. No reason they
can't be that simple again. And shared in real time with a much larger
community of practitioners here on the OSLIST.
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On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 11:32 AM Peggy Holman via OSList <
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So many possibilities!
In the spirit of simplicity...How about two global gatherings a year:
one in-person somewhere in the world, one online?
Since Jo and others are already organizing something in person, that
would take a few people to step in and volunteer to organize an online
convening. Anyone game?
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On Mar 31, 2023, at 2:41 AM, Jo Töpfer via OSList everyone@oslist.org
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Dear all,
following the lively and rich conversation I am excited about all the
future possibilities mentioned here. I do think that the discussion is one,
that we need to have. With the possible implication of changing our
tradition – for all good reasons, mentioned already.
At the same time, as one of a small team organizing the Berlin WOSonOS
2023 I need to confess, that for this year we do not have the resources to
organize a hybrid format yet. I am saying this not to stop the thinking
process (in contrary) but to manage expectations with regard to the event
in 2023. I feel very hesitant to promise something in that direction.
However, if someone feels ready to organize and put together a hybrid
format, please get in touch.
We are happy to let you know that we sold about 20 tickets just after
our initial positing for the WOSonOS in Berlin already. Seven participants
from Europa and Asia even volunteer as co-invitors. This gives us
confidence that the event will happen. We are happy to see this number
grow. We still have some early bird tickets left:
https://www.wosonos2023.berlin/
I am very much looking forward to continue this conversation (live or
online).
Warm regards
Jo
Am 26.03.23 um 16:08 schrieb Skye via OSList:
There it is, freedom to oscillate, ah life creates with us so
beautifully, thx for th dance all
On Sun, Mar 26, 2023, at 10:04 AM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList wrote:
Exciting ideas and nice memories of our experiment in Swenmark, it was a
joy to play with it!
To me its attractive to have several full, in person events and then
simple ways to connect them and offer those who care to, to connect online
and those who prefer to stay fully in the physical space to do so.
With appreciation
Thomas Herrmann
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Ämne: [OSList] Re: Global WOSONOS
here are the notes from osonos 10 (marysville) and osonos 11 (swenmark)
from where all the notes were posted online, at the same moment that they
were posted on the wall at each venue. some lively discussion took place
online in both cases, including after the events finished.
https://openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark
https://openspaceworld.org/cgi/oldwiki.cgi?MarysvilleAustralia
these would have been very different if we'd had zoom back then 2002 and
2003.
we did this with wiki at the time, as google docs was also not yet
invented. today, this sort of globally shared documenting could happen
easily in a google doc rather than a wiki.
somewhere between a single physical location and hybrid with online
participation everywhere, there is a multi-(but few)-sites option: one
space per continent, perhaps. each one still an exciting gathering of
people from all over (mostly nearer than very far, but anyone could
continent-hop if they wanted to). the sites could all contribute to a
shared doc... thanks too google... and be linked together, with many
individuals, via zoom... and, of course, qiqochat. wouldn't have to be
limited to three sides of the globe, but that would seem to be the minimum
number of sites required to effectively encircle the globe. maybe each
physical location would set aside one breakout space where folks could
check in with other locations and individuals online. that might simply be
a "new and improved" "global hive" of the newsroom that we're already used
to finding at any multi-day OS gathering. where all the notes are being
typed directly to a globally shared doc, the three (or more) newsrooms are
all on shared zoom, and all kinds of buzzing and fluttering participants
might connect and eddy into various online breakout spaces. .
to the earlier oslist conversation about repeating in europe, this year
and potentially next year... what if we didn't delay europe next year, but
added an asian and an american location to it? three terrestrial gathering
points around the globe/clock, one online always-open coffee bar, and one
world-around community and a single online proceedings document?
michael
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On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 3:03 PM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <
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Dear Open Space enthusiasts near and far away,
folks or family visiting at birthdays, sitting around the christmas
tree, neighbors walking by, people at the bus stop and in the bus, parents
having an eye on their kids on the playground, folks on vacation on a
wonderful island, a group of friends sitting at a table in a restaurant,
couples watching Television... many of them neither present nor absent in
a mode of perpetually holding on to a gadget being in touch with the entire
world and everyone...
Gathering in Open Space in the flesh or virtual or in other variations,
all have their right to exist.
Engaging in all at the same time (one group in a real life setting and
other individuals or groups in virtual contact engaged in virtual space and
other manifestations) is less than half the enchilada. Especially a mode
that os facilitators abhor trying their best to be totally present and
invisible at the same time...
Prerequisites for the unfolding of the the force of selforganisation are
a burning issue, a hypercomplex situation, high diversity in the group of
participants, an urgent need of results since yesterday, challenges that
nobody by themselve has an answer to. Those prerequisites are also
necessary for an action orienting Open Space on Open Space taking 16 hours
spread over 3 days with two nights of sleep.
In getting projects on the road that grew in the 3 days, especially
globally connected ones, need every tool available for managing the
project, no question...
Regarding the venues for OSonOS events: In the years 2009 through 2017,
regional "Learning Exchanges" were convened in the OSonOS mode in the years
in which WOSonOS took place OUTSIDE of Europe.
We met in France/Paris in 2009, then in Italy/Sardinia 2011, in
Holland/Utrecht in 2013, Spain/San Sebastian in 2016 and Iceland in 2017.
These events were grand for folks that would not travel by plane or had
limited resources or ...
In the face of climate change and other threats this kind of
"regionalisation" might be the music of the future, ongoing wherever folks
feel the time for an OSonOS has come in their neighborhood.
And the WOSonOS no longer in the flesh but global in whatever way.
Greetings from Berlin from an expert colleague that has never been in an
online event or in a video conference or in the possesion of a cell phone
(well, this year, my kids forced their 83 year old father to carry a cell
phone to make calls and a few of them have my cell phone number, no one
else) eagerly awaits his third WOSonOS in Berlin in the flesh in a relaxed
mode...
Love and Peace and Health
mmp
PS: Just remembered that I did experience the hybrid variant at the 11th
WOSonOS in Sweden/Denmark in 2003... I was stunned by the amount of effort
and time invested in the online part and how busy folks were with being
connected worldwide... it was then and there that the hybridphobia caught
me...
Am 20.03.2023 um 16:40 schrieb Hempal Shrestha via OSList:
WoW,
Wonderful, Anyone nearby or willing to come and join the circle in
Nepal, Let's make it happen and sync with the WoSoNoS and connect our
virtual seating along with the Virtual/Hybrid Open Space connecting all of
us together.
An Open Space Enthusiast from Kathmandu, Nepal!
Kind regards,
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 at 21:09, gerardo de luzenberger via OSList <
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I love the idea of going hybrid with WOSonOS.
Having multiple gatherings around the world - including in-person WOSonOs
for those that can make it would be a nice experiment and a great step
ahead of the 8 billion conversations around the world about the world.
Cheers
ge
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Il giorno lun 20 mar 2023 alle ore 16:03 marianella sclavi via OSList <
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👏😊 Bravo Harrison !
splendid thought and proposal for an Amazing Desirable World
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Il giorno lun 20 mar 2023 alle ore 15:55 Harrison Owen SR via OSList <
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Recent discussion here about the location of WOSONOS set me to thinking.
Our annual gathering has moved around the world from Moscow to Aussieland,
stopovers in Chile and Iceland, and more.... Marvelous. Then came the
plague and for three years nothing nowhere. Now it seems like we are back
in business -- Berlin next year... Back to normal, so to speak.
In the meantime, and thanks to the plague, we have developed some deep
experience with virtual Open Space, most recently with the Peace and High
Performance "gathering" which always took place in New York, but this year
happened in (I think ) 15 countries with 80+ participants. Very different
from the prior experiences at International House but powerful and rich.
All of which brings me to the odd thought: Why go back to normal? Why
not build on our plague generated experience and create a
Hybrid WOSONOS with multiple sites and virtual connections. Simultaneously
Gerardo and friends could host a gathering in Italy, Harold Shinsato could
open some space in the USA, Christine might do the same from Paris... And
everybody around the world would have the choice -- going to a place of
their choosing and or joining anywhere around the world.
Could be massively enriching -- and possibly a dress rehearsal for my
hoped for conversation with 8,000,000,000 people around the world. Now that
would really be some good open space.
What do you say, Folks. It is all doable!
Harrison
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